Low Level of threads

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by Venom

DI,

If you want to start comparing like that , it will look childish.

It's not a show off !

The intentions of this thread are well known and i hope it is closed by mods.

Venom, while I have precised via PM and at the shout box that there were no personal matters in this, you have continued providing hints of baseless personal accusations which I am countering with factual examples.

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by Icebolt

Dry Ice, weren't you once a proponent of having threads automatically available and not needing the approval of mods bc it would be more transparent? Doesn't that entail having such "low level" or "meaningless" threads as u call them opened all the times?

How is that relevant?

Originally Posted by Icebolt

Now this is a gross assumption. If a thread has a clear topic and is not opened in the interest of bashing purposes only, it's almost always accepted.

For example, many threads criticizing FPM directly and/or indirectly have been approved. Your insinuation that the Staff are exercising biasness is rejected and uncalled for. Sure such threads like the ones you initially quoted are not of high quality and level, but they must be approved bc this forum caters to all types of discussions not just the top quality ones. It happens that most threads opened are of this kind while the high-end topics- if u can call them that- are rare, so why single them out? Wouldn't it be unfair and against freedom of expression? if the administration exerts too many restrictions, it's criticized as being a dictatorship, and if it's lenient, it's criticized as well.

One have to understand that not all threads will be of top quality nor will they all have serious issues to be discussed, but that's just the reflection of the members' attitudes. Besides, it is the members who direct the threads and decide whether to turn the debate into a serious one, a bashing one, or an informative one, etc... The moderators are here to frame the discussions, not steer them nor initiate them.

Threads mostly mocking political parties/figures of the opposite political spectrum within the past month:

http://forum.tayyar.org/f8/goodbye-nayla-35390/

Ma Twa3o el Wa7esh yalleh Neyem..:P

The Licking has just started!

HARIRI, 3allam 3ammar

Saad Hariri and his sacrifice

The Geagea daily telegraph

Nasib Lahoud is back!

Ahmed Fatfat: Is he a blessing or disaster for Lebanon

I would like to see (not really) a similar thread during the same period for an FPM official. Even including C&R block member Nabil N2oula, that's a 8:1 ratio.

[Tayyar Keserwen]

I will open the following threads, hopefully the mods will approve:

The FPM licking has just started

Goodbye FPM

2ou3a twa33o el 3imed el bou3bou3 yalle neyim

Regards :)

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by Icebolt

If it's on topic, the comments stay. However, most of the cases are totally off-topic, so do u expect the moderators to keep them just to ensure fairness or not to appear as favoring this politician over the other?

"censorship" is such a broad term. Plz be more specific.

You have to remember Dry Ice that after all this forum is now affiliated with FPM, so of course it will be promoting FPM more than other parties.
The difference with other forums however lies in tolerance of other views and opinions and this board constituting a place for all individuals from all sides to debate and discuss.

If there's a particular point I would like to advance, here it is: If the purpose of the forum is to engage into dialogue with those from the opposite political spectrum, how do you expect to achieve that with the level of flaming/inflammatory posts?

If the purpose is to mostly provide a propaganda platform for FPM or its allies, that's another matter and I wouldn't debate it in that case.

Thanks

[Mar1K]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

http://forum.tayyar.org/f8/goodbye-nayla-35390/

Ma Twa3o el Wa7esh yalleh Neyem..:P

The Licking has just started!

HARIRI, 3allam 3ammar

Saad Hariri and his sacrifice

The Geagea daily telegraph

Nasib Lahoud is back!

Ahmed Fatfat: Is he a blessing or disaster for Lebanon

It is weird how you disagree only with the threads that are attacking F14...

[Ahmad el-Husseini]

This reminds of 50 First Dates, where the girl always thinks its the same day... DI thinks everyday is April Fools...

[Abou Sandal]

To be frank,certain bozos that we have in Lebanon as "politicians" do not deserve more than light and funny carricaturistic threads.And i would really be alarmed otherwise.

Wouldn't call that "low level threads" but "appropriate level threads".

Enno Nayla Aw Micho... Ya3neh Ma3leish...Ma Baddon Doctorat Bel 3ouloum El Siyessieh Wala Doctorat Bel Falsfeh...(3elm El Nafs Yemkin?)....

In anyway,those are still political threads,and very interesting ones indeed,since their title and content reflect the accurate reality of politics in Lebanon...and the tone of the title is usually used in a clever way to just reflect that level of "politics" conducted by those "political figures".

"Appropriate threads"...indeed.



PS:Would be nice to have sometimes threads titled:


President Sleiman a la plage.

or

President Sleiman a la montagne.

or

President Sleiman fait du ski.


If you get what i mean.....

[Dark Angel]

Dry Ice, admins, mods and all.

i am all for a very liberal forum where people can do whatever they want, post whatever they want, the mods' role will simply be to prevent cussing and vulgarities.

now if you really want to work on the quality of the forum, try limiting the number of daily posts per user to less than 5 in the political forum. this way people will start thinking before going over their daily quota, and one liners will drop dramatically.

PS: bad threads do have a way of dying out on their own.

[Icebolt]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

How is that relevant?

It's relevant as in it's quite normal to have threads that are not so high on the level of topics, bc members from all kinds open threads and not all of them are like Dry Ice and create top-end threads. Should one just not approve them bc of it? Isn't it censorship and dictatorship on mass scale?

Threads mostly mocking political parties/figures of the opposite political spectrum within the past month:

http://forum.tayyar.org/f8/goodbye-nayla-35390/

Ma Twa3o el Wa7esh yalleh Neyem..:P

The Licking has just started!

HARIRI, 3allam 3ammar

Saad Hariri and his sacrifice

The Geagea daily telegraph

Nasib Lahoud is back!

Ahmed Fatfat: Is he a blessing or disaster for Lebanon

I would like to see (not really) a similar thread during the same period for an FPM official. Even including C&R block member Nabil N2oula, that's a 8:1 ratio.

Well, who among C&R bloc can be mocked except N2oula? u want threads to be created just for the purpose of equating both sides when no material is actually available to do so? If it happens that one side is actually providing the material to be mocked while the other side isn't, why do u blame it on the moderators?

[Icebolt]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

If there's a particular point I would like to advance, here it is: If the purpose of the forum is to engage into dialogue with those from the opposite political spectrum, how do you expect to achieve that with the level of flaming/inflammatory posts?

The Staff are doing their best to delete all flaming and inflammatory posts. However, it's not the mods' fault if members from both sides from the political spectrum are more interested in attacking each other left and right instead of engaging in fruitful debates.

If the purpose is to mostly provide a propaganda platform for FPM or its allies, that's another matter and I wouldn't debate it in that case.

Thanks

Propaganda platform for FPM and its allies? Dry Ice, on this board FPM is scrutinized all the times, and its allies constantly criticized especially HA.
However, this forum has a goal of promoting FPM and introducing it to the world, but this can be achieved without resorting to downright propaganda.
Bottom line, this board's purpose is to promote FPM and in the same time provide a place from members from all factions to discuss and debate.