Low Level of threads

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The level of the Forum increases and decreases, but you have to remember that the Forum is made of Threads and the threads are created by the members, so if the majority of the members are creating "low level threads", members who are interested in "low level language" will increase and members who are interested in high level of discussions will decrease.

Using the same logic, if majority of the threads are made of respectable language and the discussions are respectable, the number of serious member and threads will increase and the number of "low level language" will decrease.

So basically, it is up to the Forum members.

[Dry Ice]

Fair enough, I would like to add that the administration could do something about it if it so wishes and that would not be an infringement of public freedoms.

Additionally, I do not think that such threads could be opened in the same manner for example when it comes to figures representing the Free Patriotic Movement, specifically someone like General Aoun who represents an emblematic figure for more than 50% of the members of this forum - hence a certain imbalance in the way such topics are handled.

Cheers

[Ra3ed]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

Fair enough, I would like to add that the administration could do something about it if it so wishes and that would not be an infringement of public freedoms.

with the same logic those threads were approved !

Additionally, I do not think that such threads could be opened in the same manner for example when it comes to figures representing the Free Patriotic Movement, specifically someone like General Aoun who represents an emblematic figure for more than 50% of the members of this forum - hence a certain imbalance in the way such topics are handled.

Cheers

almost all the day long you have members attacking General Michel Aoun or Free patriotic members , just search for Nabil N2oula . So your accusation is totally wrong.
Equally to the good bye Nayla thread , you have 10s of posts estimating that FPM will even loose in Matn , keserwen , Jbeil , Zahleh and that the max Deputies will be 4-5 ... are those posts censored ?


Now back to the "low level"-threads: 7tarna ma3ak Dry Ice! If your posts were deleted according to rule#10 you accuse the mods of disturbing your freedom of speech w bet2awwem el deneh w bet2a3eda but if they left some posts you attack the staff directly or indirectly that those posts are low level ! Those members have the same freedom of speech you have on the forum , please do not try in any way to cut this for them .
We the staff we do all our best NOT to delete a post and if we had deleted all those threads you were mentioning , i bet with you , you will be the first here in this section to open a thread about the freedom of speech , and if not you, one of your "friends" will do it.

[Venom]

DI

If u have certain issues with mods or members, just PM them in a respectable way and maybe they will solve them for u.

We know how many times you post low quality posts , hijack threads, and sarcasm in unappropriate threads....I do it and many members does it! But we don't come and open threads complaining about it in a way that looks like a cheap shot against another members.

And if u want quality threads and posts, start by yourself ......

Cheers

[Dry Ice]

Nabil N2oula, alright you got me there

As for members making fun of GMA, I would be interested to see how many of those members or posts are still there (not that I would like to see such posts).

We don't really need to go into the discussion of censorship, it is there while admittedly less than elsewhere.

The issue is about 1) Mocking political figures and 2) Fairness in political coverage. I believe the first point is covered by the 4th rule of flaming/inflammatory speech as any speech or inference, direct or indirect, that constitutes a personal attack against another individual or group.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

As for members making fun of GMA, I would be interested to see how many of those members or posts are still there (not that I would like to see such posts).

That's because F14ers are themselves decreasing...They are becoming a rare commodity...almost collectables...hehe...

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by Venom

DI

If u have certain issues with mods or members, just PM them in a respectable way and maybe they will solve them for u.

We know how many times you post low quality posts , hijack threads, and sarcasm in inappropriate threads....I do it and many members does it! But we don't come and open threads complaining about it in a way that looks like a cheap shot against another members.

And if u want quality threads and posts, start by yourself ......

Cheers

There is a limit Venom and we all agree on having fun within a certain limit. For example, I believe the three threads that I mentioned should be locked by now as the "fun" topic has been exhausted by now.

As for quality threads and posts, you could look in my opened threads and check out what you like, below is a recent sample.

Political

Clientelism in Lebanon

Real Estate in Lebanon

The Cedars of Lebanon

Socio-Economic Issues of Lebanon

What has happened over the past few years (2004-on)

A Recap of Ministerial Budgets


Non Political

2008 FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament for Men

http://forum.tayyar.org/f10/ne-beyro...estival-35546/

Hammana Comedy Festival - 24/27 July

Are you an early riser?

Business Students/Grads

I don't see anything disrespectful in my opening comment, otherwise I believe that the moderators starting by the administrator and the forum team leader would have done something about it already.

Regards

[Venom]

DI,

If you want to start comparing like that , it will look childish.

It's not a show off !

The intentions of this thread are well known and i hope it is closed by mods.

[Icebolt]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

Fair enough, I would like to add that the administration could do something about it if it so wishes and that would not be an infringement of public freedoms.

Dry Ice, weren't you once a proponent of having threads automatically available and not needing the approval of mods bc it would be more transparent? Doesn't that entail having such "low level" or "meaningless" threads as u call them opened all the times?

Additionally, I do not think that such threads could be opened in the same manner for example when it comes to figures representing the Free Patriotic Movement, specifically someone like General Aoun who represents an emblematic figure for more than 50% of the members of this forum - hence a certain imbalance in the way such topics are handled.

Cheers

Now this is a gross assumption. If a thread has a clear topic and is not opened in the interest of bashing purposes only, it's almost always accepted.
For example, many threads criticizing FPM directly and/or indirectly have been approved. Your insinuation that the Staff are exercising biasness is rejected and uncalled for. Sure such threads like the ones you initially quoted are not of high quality and level, but they must be approved bc this forum caters to all types of discussions not just the top quality ones. It happens that most threads opened are of this kind while the high-end topics- if u can call them that- are rare, so why single them out? Wouldn't it be unfair and against freedom of expression? if the administration exerts too many restrictions, it's criticized as being a dictatorship, and if it's lenient, it's criticized as well.

One have to understand that not all threads will be of top quality nor will they all have serious issues to be discussed, but that's just the reflection of the members' attitudes. Besides, it is the members who direct the threads and decide whether to turn the debate into a serious one, a bashing one, or an informative one, etc... The moderators are here to frame the discussions, not steer them nor initiate them.

[Icebolt]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

As for members making fun of GMA, I would be interested to see how many of those members or posts are still there (not that I would like to see such posts).

If it's on topic, the comments stay. However, most of the cases are totally off-topic, so do u expect the moderators to keep them just to ensure fairness or not to appear as favoring this politician over the other?

We don't really need to go into the discussion of censorship, it is there while admittedly less than elsewhere.

"censorship" is such a broad term. Plz be more specific.

The issue is about 1) Mocking political figures and 2) Fairness in political coverage. I believe the first point is covered by the 4th rule of flaming/inflammatory speech as any speech or inference, direct or indirect, that constitutes a personal attack against another individual or group.

You have to remember Dry Ice that after all this forum is now affiliated with FPM, so of course it will be promoting FPM more than other parties.
The difference with other forums however lies in tolerance of other views and opinions and this board constituting a place for all individuals from all sides to debate and discuss.