Save OTV!!!

[GMA forever]

I watch very rarely Television, and when I do, I watch only OTV. Their news are number 1 between the Lebanese TV stations, their political and social programs are excellent, especially with Shirley and Dima, their entertainment programs are also very good, mainly Ghanni ma3 Ghassan and 3ish Beirut.

What do you watch on MTV or LBC and you cannot watch it on OTV? Ta2 al 7anak that's all!

[NMA]

Originally Posted by Fakhr eddine 1618

Well,

Contrary to all of you, I watch OTV because I like their programs. For sure OTV has the most important news introduction, second come NTV

As for MTV, I really never watched a program there, please tell me what Programs do you like?

As for the shares, I buy if someone wants to sell

eum that's exactly what I'm saying ?


I used to watch OTV cuz it was good, but now it's boring the shows are lame, the graphics are 2 years old and dull , and during ramadan they only do rerurns or really boring shows anyway.

Watching MTV you can feel its a fresh new start and it's really dynamic, I loved talk of the town , I love Best of SLCHI (a GOOD RERUN IDEA), I love te72ee2 ,@MTV is good OTV does not have a show liket his, and the staff at MTV smalla kellon 7elween.

All in all OTV is good for the news , and that's it.
Can you name a GOOD show on OTV ? something really out of the ordinary, something that is attracting NON FPMERS to watch???

[Arze]

Originally Posted by NMA

eum that's exactly what I'm saying ?


I used to watch OTV cuz it was good, but now it's boring the shows are lame, the graphics are 2 years old and dull , and during ramadan they only do rerurns or really boring shows anyway.

Watching MTV you can feel its a fresh new start and it's really dynamic, I loved talk of the town , I love Best of SLCHI (a GOOD RERUN IDEA), I love te72ee2 ,@MTV is good OTV does not have a show liket his, and the staff at MTV smalla kellon 7elween.

All in all OTV is good for the news , and that's it.
Can you name a GOOD show on OTV ? something really out of the ordinary, something that is attracting NON FPMERS to watch???

Mike Feghali every night at 7,, very attractive show for the retarded

[X]

I don't usually like to defend OTV since i will always be biased and i usually enjoy reading the comments but this thread went too far.

I don't know what's the deal with MTV, when it comes to the viewers and ratings, MTV is no where close to OTV, OTV is competing for the second position and the TV we are competing with is not MTV!

Do not be fooled by what you see on MTV, they have all the money in the world to pay for the best decoration and best hosts, but when it comes to ratings, they are competing not to finish last. the average rating of "wanted" is 1% (40.000 local viewers) while 30 Leyle w Leyle's average is 4% (160.000 local viewers), "wanted" is paying 15$ to 200 people daily to come and sit in the studio and clap their hands, that's 3000$ daily, while 30 Leyle w Leyle's whole production is less than 3000$ daily

We don't have a "Hollywood" in Lebanon, so most of the local programs will have to be OTV's production. After Ramadan (New grid) 7 out 11 new programs will be local and OTV's production.

No TV station (unless those who have open checkbooks) will invest 1 million dollar in a program which will generate couple of hundred thousands of dollars in return. When it comes to Ramadan, OTV's management was the smartest, no Lebanese TV channel was going to compete with "Beb el Harra" on MBC, just take a look at Neshan's show on LBC! How much did it cost and how much is it generating, in return how much did 30 Leyle w Leyle costs and how much it is generating? And make no mistake, no matter how much money OTV was going to spend, competing with "Beb el Harra" is impossible. The cheapest Drama on Ramadan (30 episodes) was going to cost 300000$ and was going to have the same ratings and was going to generate the same income

You have to understand that OTV has no financial backing (no Saad el Hariri, no Walid ben Talal and no countries backing OTV), so the TV must generate money in order to survive, I don't have numbers so i am going to use examples, there are TVs out there who can risk investing 10 millions dollars on a new show (Neshan's new show on LBC is a 1 million dollar budget show) and they can afford the risk in case the show didn't succeed, but if OTV did such a thing and invested 10 million dollars (which we don't have) on a show and the show failed, OTV will close! I can give you dozens of examples on shows on other TVs which coasted lot of money and failed big time, the biggest example is "Wanted" which is the worst show and a complete and utter failure.

I attached 2 pictures from Stats-ipsos (and they are not friends with OTV), check the difference between OTV and MTV during the prime time!


1st Week of Ramadan, Prime Time - OTV Black, MTV Red


2nd Week of Ramadan, Prime Time - OTV Black, MTV Red

Those who are talking about the reruns, no TV station spends a dollar on shows between 12:00 to 6:00 PM, LBC has an archive and puts old reruns, while other TVs buy stupid Turkish Drama, OTV in return is putting a rerun of local productions! Speaking of local productions, OTV has the highest percentage of local production, and after Ramadan it will even go higher!

As for those who are attacking Roy el Hechem, if you know the man, if you have anything against him, post it, or else, shame on you to disrespect one of the most humble people i met in my life! That's all i have to say for now

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by Libnene Qu7

I can't believe the Mike Feghaly show is on OTV. I really can't.

As for the news, I'm sorry to say but I switched back to NTV and a bit of LBC. OTV has become just another tasteless FTV or TL station.

Originally Posted by Osiris

And what's the point of making "your voice" heard by FPMers and only FPMers?


They already are.

Originally Posted by Fakhr eddine 1618

Well,

Contrary to all of you, I watch OTV because I like their programs. For sure OTV has the most important news introduction, second come NTV

As for MTV, I really never watched a program there, please tell me what Programs do you like?

As for the shares, I buy if someone wants to sell

Originally Posted by NMA

eum that's exactly what I'm saying ?


I used to watch OTV cuz it was good, but now it's boring the shows are lame, the graphics are 2 years old and dull , and during ramadan they only do rerurns or really boring shows anyway.

Watching MTV you can feel its a fresh new start and it's really dynamic, I loved talk of the town , I love Best of SLCHI (a GOOD RERUN IDEA), I love te72ee2 ,@MTV is good OTV does not have a show liket his, and the staff at MTV smalla kellon 7elween.

All in all OTV is good for the news , and that's it.
Can you name a GOOD show on OTV ? something really out of the ordinary, something that is attracting NON FPMERS to watch???

in these few posts you proved to me that THE NEWS ON OTV is the most important component.
and YES MANY PEOPLE DO SWITCH TO OTV AND OTHER STATIONS TOO, SAME LIKE ME.

the most important fact is now we as FPM we have the chance to give our own point of view and show defend it.

many of you should remember quiet well pre OTV how we were so frustrated on how the other tv stations used to take tid bits of our statements and present them as they wish.
many still do that but now many viewers do scroll to OTV and check the otHER side.THAT WAS ALL THE AIM...TO SHOW OUR POV.

JUST IMAGINE FOR A SEC HOW BAD OUR SITUATION WERE TO BE IN THIS GOVERNMENT FORMATION CRISIS IF WE HAD NO OTV.....JUST THINK.

granted that mabe we should aim for better grid in OTV, but that requires money,time and more money.
honestly it does not botehr me a lot, most of my friends even the 14shbatt check out OTV as they do to lbc,ntv,manar....

you will be surprised how many 14shbatt watch OTV news, quiet a lot i assure you LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, but they wont admit it ( just a lebanese trait i guess).

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by X

I don't usually like to defend OTV since i will always be biased and i usually enjoy reading the comments but this thread went too far.

I don't know what's the deal with MTV, when it comes to the viewers and ratings, MTV is no where close to OTV, OTV is competing for the second position and the TV we are competing with is not MTV!

Do not be fooled by what you see on MTV, they have all the money in the world to pay for the best decoration and best hosts, but when it comes to ratings, they are competing not to finish last. the average rating of "wanted" is 1% (40.000 local viewers) while 30 Leyle w Leyle's average is 4% (160.000 local viewers), "wanted" is paying 15$ to 200 people daily to come and sit in the studio and clap their hands, that's 3000$ daily, while 30 Leyle w Leyle's whole production is less than 3000$ daily

We don't have a "Hollywood" in Lebanon, so most of the local programs will have to be OTV's production. After Ramadan (New grid) 7 out 11 new programs will be local and OTV's production.

No TV station (unless those who have open checkbooks) will invest 1 million dollar in a program which will generate couple of hundred thousands of dollars in return. When it comes to Ramadan, OTV's management was the smartest, no Lebanese TV channel was going to compete with "Beb el Harra" on MBC, just take a look at Neshan's show on LBC! How much did it cost and how much is it generating, in return how much did 30 Leyle w Leyle costs and how much it is generating? And make no mistake, no matter how much money OTV was going to spend, competing with "Beb el Harra" is impossible. The cheapest Drama on Ramadan (30 episodes) was going to cost 300000$ and was going to have the same ratings and was going to generate the same income

You have to understand that OTV has no financial backing (no Saad el Hariri, no Walid ben Talal and no countries backing OTV), so the TV must generate money in order to survive, I don't have numbers so i am going to use examples, there are TVs out there who can risk investing 10 millions dollars on a new show (Neshan's new show on LBC is a 1 million dollar budget show) and they can afford the risk in case the show didn't succeed, but if OTV did such a thing and invested 10 million dollars (which we don't have) on a show and the show failed, OTV will close! I can give you dozens of examples on shows on other TVs which coasted lot of money and failed big time, the biggest example is "Wanted" which is the worst show and a complete and utter failure.

I attached 2 pictures from Stats-ipsos (and they are not friends with OTV), check the difference between OTV and MTV during the prime time!


1st Week of Ramadan, Prime Time - OTV Black, MTV Red


2nd Week of Ramadan, Prime Time - OTV Black, MTV Red

Those who are talking about the reruns, no TV station spends a dollar on shows between 12:00 to 6:00 PM, LBC has an archive and puts old reruns, while other TVs buy stupid Turkish Drama, OTV in return is putting a rerun of local productions! Speaking of local productions, OTV has the highest percentage of local production, and after Ramadan it will even go higher!

As for those who are attacking Roy el Hechem, if you know the man, if you have anything against him, post it, or else, shame on you to disrespect one of the most humble people i met in my life! That's all i have to say for now

thank you feshyatellle khel2e, these are stats that no one can dispute.

young people tend to be carried away by the hype of mtv ,etc..while in reality it is the older generation that controls the remore control and most are watching these simple but nice lebanese shows .

i wish OTV the best ( FGS its barely 2 years old)

[Lebanesegirl]

Originally Posted by X

As for those who are attacking Roy el Hechem, if you know the man, if you have anything against him, post it, or else, shame on you to disrespect one of the most humble people i met in my life! That's all i have to say for now

No one said otherwise the man is clean, honest and can for sure be trusted but this is not the point here! To manage a TV station u need someone expert and know how to deal with the job. since I was the one who talked about Hachem no I have nothing against him I like him but hopefully u got what I mean u need someone "m7anak" bi hek chaghele! it is not easy to run a TV station!

[freedom4ever]

Originally Posted by X

I don't usually like to defend OTV since i will always be biased and i usually enjoy reading the comments but this thread went too far.

I don't know what's the deal with MTV, when it comes to the viewers and ratings, MTV is no where close to OTV, OTV is competing for the second position and the TV we are competing with is not MTV!

Do not be fooled by what you see on MTV, they have all the money in the world to pay for the best decoration and best hosts, but when it comes to ratings, they are competing not to finish last. the average rating of "wanted" is 1% (40.000 local viewers) while 30 Leyle w Leyle's average is 4% (160.000 local viewers), "wanted" is paying 15$ to 200 people daily to come and sit in the studio and clap their hands, that's 3000$ daily, while 30 Leyle w Leyle's whole production is less than 3000$ daily

We don't have a "Hollywood" in Lebanon, so most of the local programs will have to be OTV's production. After Ramadan (New grid) 7 out 11 new programs will be local and OTV's production.

No TV station (unless those who have open checkbooks) will invest 1 million dollar in a program which will generate couple of hundred thousands of dollars in return. When it comes to Ramadan, OTV's management was the smartest, no Lebanese TV channel was going to compete with "Beb el Harra" on MBC, just take a look at Neshan's show on LBC! How much did it cost and how much is it generating, in return how much did 30 Leyle w Leyle costs and how much it is generating? And make no mistake, no matter how much money OTV was going to spend, competing with "Beb el Harra" is impossible. The cheapest Drama on Ramadan (30 episodes) was going to cost 300000$ and was going to have the same ratings and was going to generate the same income

You have to understand that OTV has no financial backing (no Saad el Hariri, no Walid ben Talal and no countries backing OTV), so the TV must generate money in order to survive, I don't have numbers so i am going to use examples, there are TVs out there who can risk investing 10 millions dollars on a new show (Neshan's new show on LBC is a 1 million dollar budget show) and they can afford the risk in case the show didn't succeed, but if OTV did such a thing and invested 10 million dollars (which we don't have) on a show and the show failed, OTV will close! I can give you dozens of examples on shows on other TVs which coasted lot of money and failed big time, the biggest example is "Wanted" which is the worst show and a complete and utter failure.

I attached 2 pictures from Stats-ipsos (and they are not friends with OTV), check the difference between OTV and MTV during the prime time!


1st Week of Ramadan, Prime Time - OTV Black, MTV Red


2nd Week of Ramadan, Prime Time - OTV Black, MTV Red

Those who are talking about the reruns, no TV station spends a dollar on shows between 12:00 to 6:00 PM, LBC has an archive and puts old reruns, while other TVs buy stupid Turkish Drama, OTV in return is putting a rerun of local productions! Speaking of local productions, OTV has the highest percentage of local production, and after Ramadan it will even go higher!

As for those who are attacking Roy el Hechem, if you know the man, if you have anything against him, post it, or else, shame on you to disrespect one of the most humble people i met in my life! That's all i have to say for now

I respect what you have Said.

But Sometimes the truth hurts

If OTV cant see their performance I think it is problem.

If FPM as a whole can't see the BIG failure in 2009 elections, well i dont know what to say.

Delivering "OUR" message to the people isnt only by news, it is a whole package.

Please compare the Start of OTV with what it is now.

We are not here just to attack Blindly, we are trying to improve OTV.
And all what is said, we are saying it from the bottom of our heart, bcuz we Love OTV we Love FPM, because our Blood is pure orange.

We are talking cuz Alebna Ma7rou2.

if we are unable to reconstruct ourselves from now till the next elections, and put ourselves in a better shapes, from media to the ground to the party organization, we should start preparing our bags to leave by 2013.

Thank You.

[NMA]

X, your numbers are interesting but can't really convince me that OTV is doing the best they can.

You can't deny that there are many many changes that need to be done, and that MTV is better in many aspects.

Yes the money is a factor and everybody is aware of that, but small things make a big difference, like the graphics and colors... at least lose the TL looks.

The difference between the numbers can easily be explained. Remember OTV mostly attracts the "opposition" supporters. that is majority of Christians , shi3a and lots of druze... that's a big chunk of the population. MTV on the other side is mostly LFers. Hence the numbers do not mean that OTV is "better' , it's just the way el balad ma2soum.

[elador]

Originally Posted by X

I don't usually like to defend OTV since i will always be biased and i usually enjoy reading the comments but this thread went too far.

I don't know what's the deal with MTV, when it comes to the viewers and ratings, MTV is no where close to OTV, OTV is competing for the second position and the TV we are competing with is not MTV!

Do not be fooled by what you see on MTV, they have all the money in the world to pay for the best decoration and best hosts, but when it comes to ratings, they are competing not to finish last. the average rating of "wanted" is 1% (40.000 local viewers) while 30 Leyle w Leyle's average is 4% (160.000 local viewers), "wanted" is paying 15$ to 200 people daily to come and sit in the studio and clap their hands, that's 3000$ daily, while 30 Leyle w Leyle's whole production is less than 3000$ daily

We don't have a "Hollywood" in Lebanon, so most of the local programs will have to be OTV's production. After Ramadan (New grid) 7 out 11 new programs will be local and OTV's production.

No TV station (unless those who have open checkbooks) will invest 1 million dollar in a program which will generate couple of hundred thousands of dollars in return. When it comes to Ramadan, OTV's management was the smartest, no Lebanese TV channel was going to compete with "Beb el Harra" on MBC, just take a look at Neshan's show on LBC! How much did it cost and how much is it generating, in return how much did 30 Leyle w Leyle costs and how much it is generating? And make no mistake, no matter how much money OTV was going to spend, competing with "Beb el Harra" is impossible. The cheapest Drama on Ramadan (30 episodes) was going to cost 300000$ and was going to have the same ratings and was going to generate the same income

You have to understand that OTV has no financial backing (no Saad el Hariri, no Walid ben Talal and no countries backing OTV), so the TV must generate money in order to survive, I don't have numbers so i am going to use examples, there are TVs out there who can risk investing 10 millions dollars on a new show (Neshan's new show on LBC is a 1 million dollar budget show) and they can afford the risk in case the show didn't succeed, but if OTV did such a thing and invested 10 million dollars (which we don't have) on a show and the show failed, OTV will close! I can give you dozens of examples on shows on other TVs which coasted lot of money and failed big time, the biggest example is "Wanted" which is the worst show and a complete and utter failure.

I attached 2 pictures from Stats-ipsos (and they are not friends with OTV), check the difference between OTV and MTV during the prime time!


1st Week of Ramadan, Prime Time - OTV Black, MTV Red


2nd Week of Ramadan, Prime Time - OTV Black, MTV Red

Those who are talking about the reruns, no TV station spends a dollar on shows between 12:00 to 6:00 PM, LBC has an archive and puts old reruns, while other TVs buy stupid Turkish Drama, OTV in return is putting a rerun of local productions! Speaking of local productions, OTV has the highest percentage of local production, and after Ramadan it will even go higher!

As for those who are attacking Roy el Hechem, if you know the man, if you have anything against him, post it, or else, shame on you to disrespect one of the most humble people i met in my life! That's all i have to say for now

All the people who know me personally see me as a very humble man. do you have any vacancy in OTV management?

X, i'll tell you a little secret, when a tv sation starts going down nothing ever will lift it back up again. take tele liban for example, even if they spend billions in renovations and new shows it will never compete with other stations.

instead of comparing OTV numbers with MTV, do you have a chart showing otv viewers from the beginning till now?