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Manar, FTV and NBN are a hopeless case.
sorry to disappoint you but from what i ve seen from OTV it isn t any better than Manar, FTV or NBN.
Otv is just the mouthpiece of FPM, which of course is its right but for a tv station that promised to be the voice of all lebanese, i think it failed miserably.
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sorry to disappoint you but from what i ve seen from OTV it isn t any better than Manar, FTV or NBN.
Otv is just the mouthpiece of FPM, which of course is its right but for a tv station that promised to be the voice of all lebanese, i think it failed miserably.
that's the only part u focused on in my post? disappointing!
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the intro is to long, and would be nice,that in between politics we can have something interesting,some happenings,some events,something nice to hear,some nice things that our nouwweb,chouei ma ktir elon 3azeh especially in kesrwan,their moves,their actions bel manate' their main goals,their achievements...gheir than politics,koz i dont think that we are feeling the weight of our deputies,chouei mayytin w neymin... enno no body feels that some1 is responsable in kesrwan for instance...Jounieh is a desolated and stinky city... jounieh,the capital of christians in the Middle East as General always say... Ya General u are deputy of this region,nzal 3mellak chi barmeh wehmiyyeh 3al mant'a w chouf l mazbaleh wel tchercho7 wel araf yalleh saret jounieh .... Khallik fo' rasna by the way .
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The problem is that the truth is now equivalent to be at equal distance of each party (like an equilibrist task) while it's not really the good way to be neutral. The real neutral person will try to say the truth even if it is not pleasant for the listener. The only problem on OTV is that we rarely see them criticize FPM decisions, but you have also to know that FPM doesn't provocate as much as all its adversaries to be criticized in a such manner.

The intro is not as neutral as I want it to be but the news are very professional and more neutral than in any other TV.
You're not supposed to give your opinion during the news, you're supposed to get facts.

For example, Massi7iyou Qoraytem should only be Massi7iyou 14 azar.

By acting the way they are now, they are clearly taking a side and this is so not professional and not neutral as they promised.
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You're not supposed to give your opinion during the news, you're supposed to get facts.

For example, Massi7iyou Qoraytem should only be Massi7iyou 14 azar.

By acting the way they are now, they are clearly taking a side and this is so not professional and not neutral as they promised.
You want them to use the term "Massi7iyou 14 Azar" and in the same time, you are asking for neutral informations?
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An example of cheap, stupid, and propagandist reporting:

tayyar.org - Lebanon News -اسرائيل والسنيورة يصادران ارادة اللبنانيين

Thats straight out of the pages of Manar, LBC, and FTV.

Unfortunately one more thing where FPM has become just like the rest.
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I am an independant who is pro-FPM and I am clearly saying it: OTV's news and the intro especially are very biased and very far from the objectivity we were promised at the start.

The intro should be a brief roundup of the day's events and what may come next and not a daily opportunity to praise and glorify the opposition and Aoun while bashing the opponents and "masi7iyyou koraytem" as they call them. (Regardless whether it is true or not , such expressions shouldn't be used in what is supposed to be an objective news bulletin. Do you accept that LBC label in the news intro FPM as "masi7iyyou souria wa iran" for example?)

It is so explicit and blunt as if they want to impose a point view of on the audience. It is very annoying honestly and it doesn't give a good impression.

I am not against OTV having a political line but everything has limits! GMA keep criticizing reporters and journalists who give their opinions when they should be objective but OTV isn't being any better.

Who writes the intro? Jean Aziz? If yes, someone should remind that he shouldn't write his personal opinion as he does for example in Al-akhbar.

I hope someona can pass them the message!

I don't frequently listen to radio but I have the impression that Satwelghad news bulletin is much better than OTV.
Bias is reflected not with the content of the reporting, i.e. what Fakhreddine refers to as the "truth", but rather the WAY it is reported. I do not have to remind you of the different lies which were uncovered, some instantly some later, that were manufactured and propagated by the loyalist media.

I have to agree. The news is indeed biased, as are all other news broadcasts.

As a hardcore FPMer, I do thrive for the idea of an objective news channel, but unfortunately the battlefield of politics is one with no mercy and in which different tools are used, such as the media.

OTV's bias is a reaction to those of LBC and Future, although thankfully not extending to the limits the latter have reached in spreading hatred and lies. The Lebanese people are easily influenced, towards all sorts of ideas.
I believe this bias is necessary in order to reach the masses. MOST (So please do not say I generalize) Lebanese follow emotions rather than clear, coherent logical reasoning, or else we would not be living in the current situation.

Thus, if we are to win this political battle, propaganda is necessary. As long as it remains within the limits of the TRUTH, I consider it an acceptable and legal form of political practice.
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Bias is reflected not with the content of the reporting, i.e. what Fakhreddine refers to as the "truth", but rather the WAY it is reported. I do not have to remind you of the different lies which were uncovered, some instantly some later, that were manufactured and propagated by the loyalist media.

I have to agree. The news is indeed biased, as are all other news broadcasts.

As a hardcore FPMer, I do thrive for the idea of an objective news channel, but unfortunately the battlefield of politics is one with no mercy and in which different tools are used, such as the media.

OTV's bias is a reaction to those of LBC and Future, although thankfully not extending to the limits the latter have reached in spreading hatred and lies. The Lebanese people are easily influenced, towards all sorts of ideas.
I believe this bias is necessary in order to reach the masses. MOST (So please do not say I generalize) Lebanese follow emotions rather than clear, coherent logical reasoning, or else we would not be living in the current situation.

Thus, if we are to win this political battle, propaganda is necessary. As long as it remains within the limits of the TRUTH, I consider it an acceptable and legal form of political practice.


When the CEO of OTV made his first speech and presented the TV, he promised that it would not be very objective (and I doubt that the other TVs changed their way of broadcasting the news after this speech). Meaning that he knew how biased the other TVs were and still he broke his promise
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When the CEO of OTV made his first speech and presented the TV, he promised that it would not be very objective (and I doubt that the other TVs changed their way of broadcasting the news after this speech). Meaning that he knew how biased the other TVs were and still he broke his promise
Yes, as a station owned by a political party, no one expected it to be completely unbiased and neutral and give equal time for both sides. But it turned out that it's right up there with FM and Al-Manar, which is extremely dissapointing for a movement that is supposed to lead democratic reform. Media is one of the most important aspects of a democratic culture, and it's severly lacking in Lebanon. The people in general don't seem to mind, so I guess they get what they deserve at the end of it.
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why not saying the truth mitil ma hiye here look at this!!

LBC news related to LF/14 feb
FTV news related to FM/Harire
NBN news related to Berri
Manar news related to HA
OTV news related to FPM

this is the truth why hiding behind our fingers!!

I wish from OTV to forget about answering saniora and this kind of stuff lets stop this kind of news even if it was true but in lebanon we don't need to fill people's minds with stuff that will lead to big problems!! OTV still have the chance and time to tell the news bala zyedit kalimet min hon w min hon!! let the opening be neutral and u can in the middle of the news put the channel opinion about the issues!! this is my opinion and hope OTV can take it and understand what I mean!!
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