OTV Special Episode about Ehden Massacre

[Fakhr eddine 1618]

Originally Posted by tattwa

I think that we should congratulate "OTV" for the beautiful setting for the show. It was really impressive and perfect, of very high quality.

Also it seems that OTV had a high number of audience yesterday

I have been out today and it seems the episode is the talk of town despite the Netherlands-France game that was running at the same time

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by SeekNirvana

I don't know.

Here's a small quote of an apology he issued for Black Saturday. It was in an interview with the Daily Star. This was on April 14, 2007.




I can't seem to find any reference to his TV interviews, but I'm surprised you didn't hear it if you watched these interviews.

Always glad to be entertaining.

I will, when you start having some "Dine" ;)

OK. I don't recall saying the opposite. I just said that the guy apologized. Youchka seems to accept an apology as a sufficient action, and I was simply telling her that he did apologize.

Check the quote above about Black Saturday. And what you're quoting seems like an apology to me.

I don't.

I guess we're both entertained by each other's posts.

Seek it doesn't matter what I want or what I think is sufficient. I had no one killed in Ehden. What matters is what the families of the martyrs think and feel, and those did not feel that SG apologized, not that he repented. So whether he said SOME acts without specifying which ones were the shame and regret of LF, whether I heard him saying it or you heard saying it, as long as the concerned people openly said yesterday that as long as SG did not apologize they can never forgive him, then I take it that they did not get what you are implying at.

[TAYYAR AL AOUNI]

Frangieh: The Ehden Massacre has national dimensions

Mohamed Raad: Real national representation is not complete without Ehden.


El Marada leader Sleiman Frangieh received a delegation representing Hezbollah led by MP Mohamed Raad who offered his and his party's condolence on the 30th memorial of the Ehden Massacre.

El Marada leader stressed that the Massacre of Ehden has national dimensions and resulted in Christian repercussions as it divided them and broke their back.

"We welcome Hezbollah and declare in front of their delegation that we feel what happened to us is relatively minor to what happened to them and the people in South Lebanon, but after 30 years on the Ehden Massacre, some might wonder why all these delegations come to Ehden on this sad occasion. I say it is because the Ehden Massacre has national dimensions and Christian dimension. This crime broke the back of Christians as it divided them," Frangieh said.

"We all know that up to this point, the Maronite Church has failed to undertake real steps to bridge the gap between Christians by attempting to sponsor a personal or political reconciliation. We don't wish to open old wounds or to remind of the tragic past as we are hopeful that one day the Christian reconciliation will take place which would reflect positively not only on the Christians, but also on the whole of Lebanon."

"We wish that all rifts are mended and I see matters settled when the culprit admits his guilt and admits to committing a crime. As far as we are concerned, the past is behind us, but there are people who are hurt and are adamant that this file will only be closed when the culprit admits to his crime," Frangieh added.

The Marada leader concluded: "So long as there are those who pride themselves on shame and classify shame as honour, glory and triumph, it is then a natural reaction for people who are hurt to voice their resentment."

On his part, Hezbollah MP Mohamed Raad said "On this sad occasion, we come to this patriotic home to offer our condolences and express solidarity with a key national ally in Minister Sleiman Frangieh. The Massacre of Ehden still provides the clear evidence of that ugly catastrophe which could cover the whole of Lebanon if the current trend which aims to cancel out others and impose certain hegemonies continues to prevail. This is why the national opposition is persisting with calls for true national partnership in order to annul that terrible trend."

"When we come to Ehden to stand by Minister Sleiman Frangieh and his family, we want to declare that real national representation is not complete without Ehden, the great Christian region with the shining national Lebanese history," Raad stated. (13/6/2008 -SK)

Frangieh: The Ehden Massacre has national dimensions/ Mohamed Raad: Real national representation is not complete without Ehden. | El Marada Australia

[Lebanesegirl]

can someone upload the video please?!! thank you

[Greg Davis]

This calcultated smear campaign of the OTV and the FPM against the Lebanese Forces can only stretch thus far.

Has the OTV become an alternate outlet of almanar tv, with ":so called " chistian face.

Utilising the media for insightment are the lowest of tactics, and I didn't think the FPM would sink to such lows.

Digging into your political opponent's past is a common strategy utilised all round the world, but uncovering scars of a bitter war that most lebanese are trying to move on from, for political gain, is nothin short of dirty.

FPM can no longer claim that they are unbiased, nor can they state that they intend to unite the country.

So far, the FPM particularly throught their media outlets and campaigns have displayed their intension to take Lebanon back to the days of the civil war.

I am yet to see a single documentary by the OTV on the Syrian Autrocities carried out towards the Lebanese People, considering the fact that the inception of the FPM and Aounie movement came as a result of these autrocites. Or is Syria an ally now, so the less people remember of these autrocities the better it helps the FPM politically !!!

Congratulations OTV and FPM

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

This calcultated smear campaign of the OTV and the FPM against the Lebanese Forces can only stretch thus far.

Has the OTV become an alternate outlet of almanar tv, with ":so called " chistian face.

Utilising the media for insightment are the lowest of tactics, and I didn't think the FPM would sink to such lows.

Digging into your political opponent's past is a common strategy utilised all round the world, but uncovering scars of a bitter war that most lebanese are trying to move on from, for political gain, is nothin short of dirty.

FPM can no longer claim that they are unbiased, nor can they state that they intend to unite the country.

So far, the FPM particularly throught their media outlets and campaigns have displayed their intension to take Lebanon back to the days of the civil war.

I am yet to see a single documentary by the OTV on the Syrian Autrocities carried out towards the Lebanese People, considering the fact that the inception of the FPM and Aounie movement came as a result of these autrocites. Or is Syria an ally now, so the less people remember of these autrocities the better it helps the FPM politically !!!

Congratulations OTV and FPM

Seems you do not watch OTV very often do you? Ya amma bass men heb nnazir for the sake of tonzir? Habboub OTV ran a 3 episodes documentary about the Syrian atrocities, how could you have missed that?

As for taking back the country to civil war, how ridiculous. I personally did not hate SG more after seeing what I saw last night, I knew it all, did not need to see anything, however, what I learned from last night is that so far, the victims families are still waiting for an apology, and what I learned is that Franjieh has done many moves toward SG with no success, which is so pathetic given that Geagea is the killer and Franjieh the victim. Nonetheless, it was good to see that the families are willing to forgive, it all takes a simple straight (bi doun maghmagha) apology. See how easy and simple OTV made it to close this wound?

Yalla we shall wait to see what the murderer verdict will be.

[General my General!]

Originally Posted by Fakhr eddine 1618

Also it seems that OTV had a high number of audience yesterday

I have been out today and it seems the episode is the talk of town despite the Netherlands-France game that was running at the same time

What bothered me somewhat was the fact that the show was run parallel to the match...and a lot of the younger folk tuned in to the match rather than the show. These are exactly the people who should be exposed to the truth.

I heard there was a re-run today, but I seriously think it would be great for Otv to make another re-run perhaps some time next weekend during the day, with publicity done for that too.

[TAYYAR AL AOUNI]

Originally Posted by Lebanesegirl

can someone upload the video please?!! thank you

http://el-marada.net/media/Video/ehden_otv.htm

[Ignatius]

I don't think FPM is using OTV to attack SG cos the person that was behind the operation/amssacre is Bachir. He seems to have taken the decision (not Kataeb) and SG at that time was a mere executive. Hence FPM has always been close to bachirists (Poussy, Abou Nader, etc.) and GMA himslef is said to having been one of Bachir's collabs at some point ("Ra3ed").
So, I guess this program really wasn't (only) about hitting on SG, it was a kind of catharsis (Pakradouni used the word "tathir al thakira" = "purifying the memory" whic is th emodern way to talk about catharsis). Catharsis is necessary after a war (whether "civil" or not) and I hope that other programs will follow regarding specific events (not only LF related ones) but maybe with one improvement : try to get the two partioes talk even if it's not on the same tv set.

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

This calcultated smear campaign of the OTV and the FPM against the Lebanese Forces can only stretch thus far.

smear campaign? We didn't know the LF had a clean history to smear.
Now did the event happen or not? so why is it a taboo to discuss it? and why no one had a problem with LBC having documentaries about the launch of the civil war in 1975? typical double standards.

Has the OTV become an alternate outlet of almanar tv, with ":so called " chistian face.

Utilising the media for insightment are the lowest of tactics, and I didn't think the FPM would sink to such lows.

It's a documentary, chill.

Digging into your political opponent's past is a common strategy utilised all round the world, but uncovering scars of a bitter war that most lebanese are trying to move on from, for political gain, is nothin short of dirty.

Since u already made the verdict that it's for political gains, what is there to discuss?

FPM can no longer claim that they are unbiased, nor can they state that they intend to unite the country.

So far, the FPM particularly throught their media outlets and campaigns have displayed their intension to take Lebanon back to the days of the civil war.

A documentary does all that? funny.

I am yet to see a single documentary by the OTV on the Syrian Autrocities carried out towards the Lebanese People, considering the fact that the inception of the FPM and Aounie movement came as a result of these autrocites. Or is Syria an ally now, so the less people remember of these autrocities the better it helps the FPM politically !!!

Typical pure khasshan/Siyassa/Shira3 garbage.


At the end, let's hide the facts about the ugly events that plagued Lebanon. Let's keep the ppl in the dark. It's not true what they say about reminding the events of the past in order not to repeat the same mistakes in the future.