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Originally Posted by HooKs Guys u being too harsh on Otv. Some high quality programs would be great, but don`t forget that Otv with the very humble budget is producing and airing very good and attractive programs for all ages. Honestly, i don`t enjoy any other tv ma3 ino sometimes certain Otv programs get on my nerves. Otv is moving slowly but steadily towards a stable climax of success and diversity (program wise). | Quote:
Originally Posted by King Rami TAKE IT EASY ON OTV...
it's a tv station broadcasting from a building of 3 floors
otv is 2 years old (almost) and competing...
I wonder how it'll become in few more years. | this is why these smart shows I am suggesting are a must, simply because they dont cost much money and yet attract high ratings, they revolve around the personality of the host. i can assure you if OTV doesn't adopt the idea, another station will, our Lebanese competitors are in the habit of mimicking the successful programs in the west. if OTV wants to succeed, they have to do their best and excel in using their limited resources, and this is one of the solutions that OTV should embrace not just to fill the time, but also to mature as a station and to reconcile with a big part of its potential audience. i am very aware that OTV is still a young station, but that's not an excuse for committing a series of deadly mistakes that alienated half its audience and made unable to play soft propaganda to our opponents, you cannot influence the opinions of others if they dont stop to listen to what you've gotta say. OTV is not progressing correctly, it is an obvious mouthpiece for FPM, and even at that it is failing dramatically, it is not projecting a good image of our party; it is not too late to correct that; but i have yet to see a sign that there is gonna be a change. OTV will be a much more effective tool for FPM when it stops being so obviously orange. I think the main problem to overcome at the moment is giant egos, once people get to admit their shortcomings they can easily progress from there, but i can assure you that if anyone from the OTV board or staff runs across this thread, they will perceive it as a stab to their ego instead of a genuine attempt to help them make things better both for OTV and FPM. | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to Dark Angel For This Useful Post: | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by Dark Angel this is why these smart shows I am suggesting are a must, simply because they dont cost much money and yet attract high ratings, they revolve around the personality of the host. i can assure you if OTV doesn't adopt the idea, another station will, our Lebanese competitors are in the habit of mimicking the successful programs in the west. if OTV wants to succeed, they have to do their best and excel in using their limited resources, and this is one of the solutions that OTV should embrace not just to fill the time, but also to mature as a station and to reconcile with a big part of its potential audience. i am very aware that OTV is still a young station, but that's not an excuse for committing a series of deadly mistakes that alienated half its audience and made unable to play soft propaganda to our opponents, you cannot influence the opinions of others if they dont stop to listen to what you've gotta say. OTV is not progressing correctly, it is an obvious mouthpiece for FPM, and even at that it is failing dramatically, it is not projecting a good image of our party; it is not too late to correct that; but i have yet to see a sign that there is gonna be a change. OTV will be a much more effective tool for FPM when it stops being so obviously orange. I think the main problem to overcome at the moment is giant egos, once people get to admit their shortcomings they can easily progress from there, but i can assure you that if anyone from the OTV board or staff runs across this thread, they will perceive it as a stab to their ego instead of a genuine attempt to help them make things better both for OTV and FPM. |
Absolutely right DA !! Renewing OTV should be part of a complete renewal process of FPM. Our fellows who are currently in charge of OTV and many other FPM committees and groups do not need to take this personal, but it is a must to have a new look for FPM and a new way to transmit our message. Relying on GMA alone and his press conferences after the C&R meetings was recently proven to be insufficient. We need to think of more efficient means to let us closer to the people and to attract bigger audience. It is also urgent that OTV finds a way to broadcast in the diaspora at cheap and affordable prices. The brainwash that the expatriates have been exposed to over the past three years costed us the elections  | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by King Rami TAKE IT EASY ON OTV...
it's a tv station broadcasting from a building of 3 floors
otv is 2 years old (almost) and competing...
I wonder how it'll become in few more years. | This has nothing to do with the age of the TV station. OTV is now appealing to hardcore FPMers, not even to the moderate FPMers. Some of the ideas suggested in this thread (by Dark Angel) are low budget ideas that can be easily implemented. I would add that the language/tone should be changed at OTV... if you don't appeal to the average Lebanese, you can never win over the average Lebanese. When you cater to the hardcore orange audience only, your maximum achievement would be to "maintain" the hardcore FPMers... in FPM. And that's not a "good investment" | | | | | The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to loubnaniTO For This Useful Post: | | | Registered Member
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My humble opinion concerning OTV:
1) The most important thing to be changed in OTV is the design and "decor" behind the presenters... I think this must be a must and priority.
Look at other stations in Lebanon, like MTV, they have amazing designs
This might require money, but I think it's a good investment
2) More political talk shows but different kinds, like:
- Regular political talk show once a week ( Invite more politicians from Loyalist side so that different kind of people watch OTV)
- Debates, by having 2 people with different ideas about any issue. It can be political or social. People just love to see 2 people with different ideas debating face to face.
- Political talk shows and debates with Youth and Student representives of parties or clubs from inside universities. This can be the talk of the town...
etc etc
3) Have more young presenters, specially in the morning, with young and teen topics
4) Give more time to music, Arabic or Western. Young people love it... Top ten in US, Top ten in Europe, Top ten in Lebanon etc etc...
With the same idea, have more time about cinemas and movies...
5) News... BE LESS BIASED... This is crucial... OTV news is very biased...
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All of sudden many in the forum agree that OTV news is very biased and that it is a mouthpiece for FPM propaganda! Where are the ones attacking me back in the day when I was rightly pointing out the same fact? | | | | | The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to joseph_lubnan For This Useful Post: | | | Orange Room Supporter
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DA, the difficulty is not in the production, but in finding a genious like Jon Stewart or Steve Colbert with dozens of genious writers behind them. 90% of the material is already there, with politicians like Carlos Edde, Michel Fer3on, Joumblatt, and the constant flip flopping of March 14, OTV can make a show that is both witty and hilarious at the same time. | | | | | Registered Member
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Well i never watched OTV before (i thought it didn't opened yet :)) but after knowing it put grandizer, i might give it a chance. By the way, can't Hariri buy OTV ? (Serious question), i mean the guy above said he is invester, say Hariri bought most of channel can't he simply start broadcasting what he likes ?
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Originally Posted by bruno Well i never watched OTV before (i thought it didn't opened yet :)) but after knowing it put grandizer, i might give it a chance. By the way, can't Hariri buy OTV ? (Serious question), i mean the guy above said he is invester, say Hariri bought most of channel can't he simply start broadcasting what he likes ?
Excuse my ignorance, it is being a while outside Lebanon  | I think there's a major clause in the station's owenership rules that separates ownership of shares from management. And no one entity can buy more than 10%. | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by King Rami TAKE IT EASY ON OTV...
it's a tv station broadcasting from a building of 3 floors
otv is 2 years old (almost) and competing...
I wonder how it'll become in few more years. | You don't need to have a 20 story building and 30 years of experience to be unbiased.
OTV is the most biased TV out there (along with Manar, Future and NBN).
I don't see how one can defend this kind of behavior.
And please spare me the "OTV is saying the truth".
Because these might not be lies that OTV is spreading, but the way OTV broadcasts the news is despicable.
The weird thing is that they're always defending one side....doesn't that tell you something ?
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Originally Posted by Libnene Qu7 I think there's a major clause in the station's owenership rules that separates ownership of shares from management. And no one entity can buy more than 10%. | But what is interesting in ownership then ? Is this options, that go or low, get annual profits? Can i invest in it now ? Or it ended ? | | | |  | | |
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