Amana care and lifelong on OTV???

[CPL]

They should not be legal for the mere fact that some people use a certain amount of money for medicine, and if they pay for some futile non-researched elixir, they are wasting money at the expense of their health, at the responsibility of the manufacturer of that scam. It's a scam that can hurt people's health, so it's not a joke.

Because I used Herbalaxa for good memory, I can remember its name :P

[lebanese1]

Originally Posted by fado

Yeah thats true but here in Sweden they go through malyon tests w malyon controle untill we are allowd to sell them. And i recognise most of the products they are selling. So i am telling u, if we can sell them here ya3ne they are not harmful.

I don't know what happens exactly in sweden. IF the products pass through all the needed test, it ok but I doubt all this happen here in Lebanon.

[Abufijli]

I think you are overreacting, the sale of vitamins, minerals and herbs is not illegal, some of these herbs work really well, for example glucosamine and fish oil for arthritis, while others mau be useless. Herbs do not fall into the same category as medications therefore large double blind studies are not required for them.

These ads are annoying, but at the end of the day TV stations need to make money. If these ads are in any way misleading then the governemnt should take action, not OTV.

[HALAYABA]

i think our voice should be carried out by DR. Mario Aoun. he is an activist and ex. Naqib el attouba. once on NTV he carried on a huge campaign against those companies, this is his chance now to fight from within. i think many of us will support him. as shareholders of OTV can we address the management to stop those commercials? i did not invest in OTV for the benefits, i did so for my believes, practically i dont care if those commercials will render any financial benefits, and i still feel that OTV will not run a loss for stopping them.

[kappa273]

it is not the job of OTV to prevent those companies from running their adds...

most likely their products are either harmless/useless or potentially harmful... it is the job of different ministries, unions and agencies to regulate their sale...

consumption of huge amount of pepsi can be harmful for the health... do you recommend that OTV stops adds for Pepsi Cola?

what about alcohol adds?

kappa

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by kappa273

it is not the job of OTV to prevent those companies from running their adds...

most likely their products are either harmless/useless or potentially harmful... it is the job of different ministries, unions and agencies to regulate their sale...

consumption of huge amount of pepsi can be harmful for the health... do you recommend that OTV stops adds for Pepsi Cola?

what about alcohol adds?

kappa

In FPM we are very idealistic, and thus we are raising this issue. However you are completely right, I mean why are Marlboro ads allowed, J&B or Dewars or Diet Cole or Canderel.... which all may cause cancer or some kind of diseases.
I must say, I was not happy seeing those products on OTv, but then again, if we can get OTV some million dollars in ads, then we can go ask it to remove the ads, otherwise we have no right to do so. The station is still young and needs money to survive and no need to dwell on OTV's challenges there is a looooong thread about it.

[CPL]

Originally Posted by kappa273

it is not the job of OTV to prevent those companies from running their adds...

most likely their products are either harmless/useless or potentially harmful... it is the job of different ministries, unions and agencies to regulate their sale...

consumption of huge amount of pepsi can be harmful for the health... do you recommend that OTV stops adds for Pepsi Cola?

what about alcohol adds?

kappa

Pepsi Cola and Alcohol don't pretend to have cures for certain illnesses. And that's a major difference, because ANYTHING can be harmful, I can kill myself with a toilet paper if I wanted to.

The point is that, those charlatan companies are luring people to spend an amount of money on a non-properly-researched-grandma remedy, instead of spending that money on something that is worth it. And viewing the level of gullibility in Lebanese people, essentially in older generations, many people will be trapped, and will harm themselves by not seeking real professionals' help.

That is why it is HIGHLY essential to have a PROPER central certification method for drugs in Lebanon. A certification means that a specific drug has been properly scientifically tested, and that has stochastic certainty at helping against a certain symptom/illness.

I am personally disappointed from OTV at so many levels, that I can say now that OTV is just another Lebanese station. It is not showing the expected level (at least according to me) of fulfilling a mission we all dreamed of, whether through advertising, art, news, or what have you.

[Mich©]

Mneeh! Haj tnazro!
OTV has running costs per month that are overwhelming and contrary to public thought, Iran is not paying them money to go ahead.
The station needs money as they have at least 200 families living off OTV and need to get paid that doesn't include the equipment, studios, etc...
So if these companies have money, then fine, we should be able to use them, otherwise, go ahead and donate to OTV instead of showing disappointment and whatever.

[CPL]

Originally Posted by Mich©

Mneeh! Haj tnazro!
OTV has running costs per month that are overwhelming and contrary to public thought, Iran is not paying them money to go ahead.
The station needs money as they have at least 200 families living off OTV and need to get paid that doesn't include the equipment, studios, etc...
So if these companies have money, then fine, we should be able to use them, otherwise, go ahead and donate to OTV instead of showing disappointment and whatever.

Respect yourself before saying "haj tnazro", maybe you can learn from other people.

We don't know if it's running cost or greed for more income, but I can tell you something for sure, that a media outlet that respects itself would risk its own financial situation for something called integrity.

I remember the day when we were yearning for a media station that will revolutionalize Lebanon, and to make things worse, OTV is a shareholder company owned by the public. And I am 1000% sure that they feel betrayed because they financed a media that was supposed to make a revolution, but instead is acting the same way as LBC and Future. Sure, you can always sell out to get money, you can even prostitute the channel, it can be for 200 or 2,000,000 families in the company, this has nothing to do with the mission statement of the company, the shareholders are not here to feed 200 families, they are here and paid real money to create a strong spearhead for our revolution, or whatever was left from it.

If you don't want to be disappointed, feel free to do so, but later don't come and ask why we are not able to liberate the Lebanese society from its own chains.

[General my General!]

I assure you folks, the MOH did try to shut these practices down - I heard it straight from the minister and director general themselves. So did the order of physicians. Unfortunately they were unable to, because of the corruption within the state, as well as the backing of certain influentials behind these activities.

I have seen first hand how such 'medications' have sent countless of people to hospitals, often in life-threatening conditions. The problems usually associated with the use of these are because:
1) People stop their normal medications and take these instead
2) These substances may alter the bioavailability or effect of normal medications being treated (esp.for heart, diabetes and hypertension)
3) Some people seek these medications instead of normal ones, sometimes these offer cures for cancers, etc. After trying them and failing, it is often too late to use normal medication/treatment.

Of course these don't all apply perhaps to each product, but the problem is that Alternative medicine is not at all regulated in this country. Worse still is that media is rarely if ever held accountable.

Very disappointed that Otv took this on. Sh** happens, but they should stop them ASAP!

Cheers!