where would u chose to continue ur masters degree ?

[kalel]

Originally Posted by friendofzeus

Shevchenco, i want to pursue another degree aside from computer science. My choice resides on Game Programming. Can you specify any good universities in Canada that excel in that field?

Thanks.

apply for ubisoft in montreal dude my friend just graduated in NDU in summer with a BE in computer graphics animation and now he is doing his masters @ ubisoft in montreal in game developing . it will take himm 9 months only. OH and u should be a C++ guru . they dont use much of java but looooooooooooots of C++ . and he told me after his masters his starting salary would be around 45$/hour.

[kalel]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

Once you graduate you will see that what you do in your job has nothing to do with what you have studied, let alone what you have spent two years doing your thesis about.
If you are not interested in research after your Masters then it is a waste of time to do a Masters, you'd be better off working making money and gaining experience, and this especially in engineering.

danny i got ur point . its a gd one ma 7ada bi 2oul la2 eno experience is different from what u have learned today. but

1) the papers today are something very powerful that will help u to reach places in ur future work. ye3ne a BE in EE isnt paid or doesnt get the same job as a Masters in EE.
2) if u want to be special and unique with ur formation u have to do something special or at least something close to special .
(for example : i did a double school program and i used to stay from 8 am to 6 pm everyday beside friday and saturday i would go only from 2:30 pm . i know that was a big tiring education but i find the difference right now between my classmates @ the university. )

i agree with u . what is really important is the experience BUT in order to get to some places and get some GOOD experience u got to have the right degrees in ur pocket

[Lallous]

In engineering, a masters could be useful if you wish to make a transition for something else then what you have studied. In other cases, masters being done without experience is not viable in engineering. You would get refused for being overqualified. Trust me on this one, I've seen many of these cases here in Canada. Get your masters once you've started working as it could be a nice bargain chip for promotion or salary increase. Else, the best asset for an engineer is a minor in management, usualy around 30 credits. Of course, later on, you could pursue your MBA.

[SeekNirvana]

Originally Posted by kalel

apply for ubisoft in montreal dude my friend just graduated in NDU in summer with a BE in computer graphics animation and now he is doing his masters @ ubisoft in montreal in game developing . it will take himm 9 months only. OH and u should be a C++ guru . they dont use much of java but looooooooooooots of C++ . and he told me after his masters his starting salary would be around 45$/hour.

Ubisoft is a company and not a university.The certificate they give you is a graduate certificate, which means you are supposed to have an undergraduate degree before you can enroll, but it's far from being called a Master's degree.

Talking salary, Ubisoft is one of the lowest paying employers in Montreal in IT. It's unreal that a fresh grad software engineer who has to follow their graduate certificate program ends up getting less than 50K CAD a year. I don't even understand why people even apply there.

[kalel]

Originally Posted by Lallous

In engineering, a masters could be useful if you wish to make a transition for something else then what you have studied. In other cases, masters being done without experience is not viable in engineering. You would get refused for being overqualified. Trust me on this one, I've seen many of these cases here in Canada. Get your masters once you've started working as it could be a nice bargain chip for promotion or salary increase. Else, the best asset for an engineer is a minor in management, usualy around 30 credits. Of course, later on, you could pursue your MBA.

thats exactly what i m gona do u were reading my mind. as i said previously in the topic i want to get a masters in engineering then while working i want to pursue a degree in buisness . i think it is very useful and opens wider fields for the engineers to work in different departments

[kalel]

Originally Posted by SeekNirvana

Ubisoft is a company and not a university.The certificate they give you is a graduate certificate, which means you are supposed to have an undergraduate degree before you can enroll, but it's far from being called a Master's degree.

Talking salary, Ubisoft is one of the lowest paying employers in Montreal in IT. It's unreal that a fresh grad software engineer who has to follow their graduate certificate program ends up getting less than 50K CAD a year. I don't even understand why people even apply there.

mazbout 3am bet 2oul chi mazbout but my friend got enrolled with 15 other students from different countries in a program supervised by ubisoft but eventually he will get his degree from sherbrooke. fhemet 3lek ana he explained to me this once before that ubisoft is just an institute and doesnt give masters degree but fi deals with different unis there . its like ubisoft is a sponsor. fi universite de montreal 3anda game3 design w fi cegep de matane 3anda animation modeling w level design.