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Can anyone explain to us what are the economic mechanisms and reasons of the USD depreciation.
and what does it imply that oil prices are quoted in USD. wouldn't the quoted price change anyway to reflect the true value of oil, no matter what the current value of the dollar is?
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Can anyone explain to us what are the economic mechanisms and reasons of the USD depreciation.
and what does it imply that oil prices are quoted in USD. wouldn't the quoted price change anyway to reflect the true value of oil, no matter what the current value of the dollar is?
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The USD is depreciating because of the state of the US economy and because the Fed has lowered interest rates. The ECB on the other hand has started raising interest rates. This forces investors to sell USD to buy the Euro for example where they can earn a higher return.

Regarding oil, it is priced in USD. This is one reason it has gone up so much in USD terms. If you look at it in other currencies, it hasn't gone up as much. Same with gold and other commodities. That's because most commodities are priced in USD.
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The USD is depreciating because of the state of the US economy and because the Fed has lowered interest rates. The ECB on the other hand has started raising interest rates. This forces investors to sell USD to buy the Euro for example where they can earn a higher return.

Regarding oil, it is priced in USD. This is one reason it has gone up so much in USD terms. If you look at it in other currencies, it hasn't gone up as much. Same with gold and other commodities. That's because most commodities are priced in USD.
i got the 1st point, thx for ur answer.

as for oil prices, it means that only people in the USA, and countries like Lebanon were the exchange rate is fixed with respect to the US$ that will be hit by higher oil prices most. but in London, the eurozone, or Hong Kong, it shouldn't have that much of an effect, according to what u're saying? what's wrong in this argument since everybody seems hurt? thx
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i got the 1st point, thx for ur answer.

as for oil prices, it means that only people in the USA, and countries like Lebanon were the exchange rate is fixed with respect to the US$ that will be hit by higher oil prices most. but in London, the eurozone, or Hong Kong, it shouldn't have that much of an effect, according to what u're saying? what's wrong in this argument since everybody seems hurt? thx

The oil increase in USD is higher in percentage terms (in 5 years from about 30-40 to 140+) than the increase in the price of a euro in USD (in 5 years from about parity to about 1.4). So even in euros, oil is still more expensive. So it still hurts, but less.
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i got the 1st point, thx for ur answer.

as for oil prices, it means that only people in the USA, and countries like Lebanon were the exchange rate is fixed with respect to the US$ that will be hit by higher oil prices most. but in London, the eurozone, or Hong Kong, it shouldn't have that much of an effect, according to what u're saying? what's wrong in this argument since everybody seems hurt? thx
Suomynona answered the 2nd part for you. Oil is more expensive everywhere but in percentage terms it went up much more in USD terms than with respect to the Euro.
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Today is a cataclysmic day for the stock market.

LEH - Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. - Google Finance

Check the financials in general and specifically everything related to mortgages.

FNM - Fannie Mae - Google Finance
FRE - Freddie Mac - Google Finance

I think that the people who are not in yet and who will be in soon will be making serious money in a few years.
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Today is a cataclysmic day for the stock market.

LEH - Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. - Google Finance

Check the financials in general and specifically everything related to mortgages.

FNM - Fannie Mae - Google Finance
FRE - Freddie Mac - Google Finance

I think that the people who are not in yet and who will be in soon will be making serious money in a few years.
Huge turnaround in the last hour! Wow Dow/Nasdaq turned positive... Could this be the bottom???
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Huge turnaround in the last hour! Wow Dow/Nasdaq turned positive... Could this be the bottom???
Imagine we bought Fmac. Kenna dawbalna. :). LOL next time next time.
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Imagine we bought Fmac. Kenna dawbalna. :). LOL next time next time.
Seriously! I also thought about buying Indy Mac! The FDIC shut it down and took over... It would've been another disaster for me (in addition to my YHOO, NVDA, C and BAC). I'm getting killed these days!
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