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KSU ( King Saud University ) is pure ****.
This chart is ridiculous
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anyway, King Saud University welcomes all students of the world ;)

I'm not sure about that, as far as I know KSU is only to Saudis.

From KSU website:


Admission conditions for the faculties of the university :

- General conditions for admissions:
Generally, admissions to the post-graduate studies stipulate the following:
1-the applicant must be a Saudi or has an official grant for post-graduate studies if he were a non-Saudi.
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if you want to study in the Arab world, go to AUB or LAU.

...uuuum and NDU!
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This ranking is completely absurd.
All rankings are absurd. Americans rank their way, Chinese rank their way and French rank their own way... And according to each of these rankings, the nationality of the top schools change!

A French ranking will put a lot of value on the income of a graduate, while an American or Chinese ranking will rank more on the number of articles published by the university. That is why the French "Hautes Ecoles" are so badly ranked according to American and Chinese rankings, while they do extremely well according to French standards.

Also, these rankings take also into account the barriers set for entry. For instance, because Harvard is hard to get into for financial reasons, and because HEC is hard to get into because of the twisted French system of prestige, these schools are well ranked! Same goes for the number of "international students" that attend. Of course, there are so many Lebanese in France for instance, that schools like HEC and ESSEC are increasing their rank purely by artificial means: making it hard for French students to get in, and easier for foreigners! Also, the fact that the French have the opportunity to get cheap education, they are few to want to enter those schools, or able to afford them!

Of course, as you say, this is absurd, but all Lebanese and French people like to believe they go to top notch schools and make themselves important, while in reality, their curriculum is not more impressive than any other school!

Schools are supposed to be ranked according to two standards: the content of their courses and the number of publications they have each year. The rest is purely commercial and leads to artificial rankings and prestige! It also leads to unfair competition and social inequalities! Besides, with the networks that are created between different schools, the difference between one school and another is being reduced...
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All rankings are absurd. Americans rank their way, Chinese rank their way and French rank their own way... And according to each of these rankings, the nationality of the top schools change!

A French ranking will put a lot of value on the income of a graduate, while an American or Chinese ranking will rank more on the number of articles published by the university. That is why the French "Hautes Ecoles" are so badly ranked according to American and Chinese rankings, while they do extremely well according to French standards.

Also, these rankings take also into account the barriers set for entry. For instance, because Harvard is hard to get into for financial reasons, and because HEC is hard to get into because of the twisted French system of prestige, these schools are well ranked! Same goes for the number of "international students" that attend. Of course, there are so many Lebanese in France for instance, that schools like HEC and ESSEC are increasing their rank purely by artificial means: making it hard for French students to get in, and easier for foreigners! Also, the fact that the French have the opportunity to get cheap education, they are few to want to enter those schools, or able to afford them!

Of course, as you say, this is absurd, but all Lebanese and French people like to believe they go to top notch schools and make themselves important, while in reality, their curriculum is not more impressive than any other school!

Schools are supposed to be ranked according to two standards: the content of their courses and the number of publications they have each year. The rest is purely commercial and leads to artificial rankings and prestige! It also leads to unfair competition and social inequalities! Besides, with the networks that are created between different schools, the difference between one school and another is being reduced...

this is true, but every single ranking agency (or organization or whatever they call them) have a unique ranking methodology. And as you explained, the more the emphasis on publications and less on some random unrelated-to-education stuff, such as the location of the campus, the more accurate the ranking is. I guess this ranking, QS Top Universities: study abroad guides, THE - QS World University Rankings, Bachelors degree information, is much more reliable than the one presented in here:




other reliable ones: Shanghai Jiao Tong University (China) and Newsweek Magazine.
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i'm not sure about that, as far as i know ksu is only to saudis.
مش كل بيان رسمي يطبق.!!!

يوجد في جامعة الملك سعود طلاب و طالبات من بعض الجنسيات العربية, تسألني كيف؟ بعضهم يرسلوا خطاب للملك و يوافق على دراستهم بس بدون مكافئة جامعية
و بعضهم يستخدمون الواسطة.....
يعني بشكل غير مباشر ترحب جامعة الملك سعود بكل طلاب العالم العربي !!!
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مش كل بيان رسمي يطبق.!!!

يوجد في جامعة الملك سعود طلاب و طالبات من بعض الجنسيات العربية, تسألني كيف؟ بعضهم يرسلوا خطاب للملك و يوافق على دراستهم بس بدون مكافئة جامعية
و بعضهم يستخدمون الواسطة.....
يعني بشكل غير مباشر ترحب جامعة الملك سعود بكل طلاب العالم العربي !!!

hehe lol wa ni3ma l tar7ib if it's gonna be min ba3ed wasta or after a special begging letter to the king .... hayde without mentioning this law that prevent those students to take a scholarship or any other compensation

So what does make KSU the first university in the Arab world ?? ... what is so special about it ???
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Default 15th August 2009

Very weird...

The top 5 are saudi unis but still the saudis need always a foreign help in their institutions!?!?!? Ghareeb
Does it mean that they learn nothing there or that the unis 3endon seet 3al fadeh?

Dunno the input of this thread, but I know that having the top 5 unis in the arab world didn't have a positive influence in the saudi society; proof, what we see and hear all the time.. so, kello hayda ma 2elo 3azé, yrou7o yshoufo kif beddon ytawwro 7alon before trying to compete without having any concrete results.
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hehe lol wa ni3ma l tar7ib if it's gonna be min ba3ed wasta or after a special begging letter to the king .... hayde without mentioning this law that prevent those students to take a scholarship or any other compensation

So what does make KSU the first university in the Arab world ?? ... what is so special about it ???
ahlan w sahlan Faithful, ahmma shi tar7ib.

w shi ghareeb kmen why they use wasta to enter this university!!! why they bothering themselves? maybe KSU dream for any student..

KSU aim's:
-To provide initiative-based education that promotes the highest intellectual and academic standards
-To provide confident and ambitious graduates, well-equipped to advance the welfare of the society
-To foster an accommodating environment for skilful, professional, and serious faculty
-To achieve the reputation and recognition of being a valued teaching and research institution
-To enhance the well-being of society, its unity, and social and cultural values
-To become the choice for businesses, industries and professions seeking cooperation that serves the economical prosperity of the nation
-To uphold a productive academic environment that cultivates excellence, diversity, respect, and willingness to change.

Vision:
King Saud University seeks to become a leader in educational and technological innovation, scientific discovery and creativity through fostering an atmosphere of intellectual inspiration and partnership for the prosperity of society.

Mission:
King Saud University aspires to meet the educational and development needs of society by providing high-quality academic programs, pioneering innovative research and creative articulation, and through active involvement in the community for the prosperous cultural and economic development of the country.

i think that's enough,
King Saud University > ksu >
http://www.ksu.edu.sa/UMessageEn/Fir...s/default.aspx
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Look rami i see the 100 Top on the initial one and AUB is the second university and that KSA one about petroluim is the third
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