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Note: That is a hypothetical question concerning investment scenarios and one should consult professionals and practice due diligence and serious research before engaging in any type of investment, the answers that might be provided in this thread are purely on an informative basis and do not constitute a professional approach to investment.


Hello everyone,

Supposing a scenario where you would have some cash and would like to invest it beyond a bank saving account; where would you recommend making an investment if considering a relatively liquid environment (mutual fund/stock markets) and what type of return on investment would you consider reasonable over a period of 3 years?

Thoughts appreciated
It is difficult to answer your question without more information about you. Textbook portfolio management specifies the following factors in determining how you should invest:
  • Return objectives
  • Risk tolerance: how much risk you are able/willing to assume in order to reach your return objectives. You specified a 5-10% loss on your investment. If that is an annual figure I would characterize your risk tolerance as average to above-average.
The best way to determine your risk and return objectives is to make an appointment with an investment professional who will run you through questionnaires that will help to accurately determine your objectives.
  • Time horizon: the younger you are, the higher your ability to take risk
  • Tax considerations: capital gains are taxable in the US/Canada. If you are investing for retirement, perhaps you should consider tax-shielded/tax-deferred accounts.
  • Liquidity requirements: you should have at least 6 months' worth of living expenses in liquid investments or cash.
  • Legal considerations
  • Unique circumstances: e.g. do you have a special cash outflow that you expect at a certain point in time? (college tuition for children, for example)
Another important thing to do is to look at your investment in a total portfolio context, i.e. in conjunction with your other investments or assets that you own. Whether you already own equities will affect whether it is right for you to invest in more equities. If you own real estate in large values, then it may not be appropriate to invest in real estate investments.

Which brings me to my last point: diversification. This is probably the single most important concept that you need to know as an individual investor. By being well-diversified across financial instruments and geographic markets, you eliminate a portion of risk of your portfolio that would otherwise be there. A well-diversified investor will own both equities and fixed income, and will be invested in several geographic markets (not only the US, for example). A good rule of thumb for your equity/fixed income proportion is to use your age as the percentage of fixed income, i.e. if you are 30, your portfolio should be 30% bonds in value.

Finally, while there may be significant opportunities in FX trading or investing in a single emerging market like Qatar, I would say it would be generally risky to do that only. A good (yet much less sexy) investment would be to put your cash in money-market instruments, like 1y T-Bills (they yield around 4% right now). They are very liquid investments (the only more liquid one is cash), so you have access to your cash at any time, and you make a return that at least protects you against inflation.

The best thing to do is to make an appointment with an investment professional at an asset management firm, who will help you identify the best way to grow your money.
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It is difficult to answer your question without more information about you. Textbook portfolio management specifies the following factors in determining how you should invest:
  • Return objectives
  • Risk tolerance: how much risk you are able/willing to assume in order to reach your return objectives. You specified a 5-10% loss on your investment. If that is an annual figure I would characterize your risk tolerance as average to above-average.
The best way to determine your risk and return objectives is to make an appointment with an investment professional who will run you through questionnaires that will help to accurately determine your objectives.
  • Time horizon: the younger you are, the higher your ability to take risk
  • Tax considerations: capital gains are taxable in the US/Canada. If you are investing for retirement, perhaps you should consider tax-shielded/tax-deferred accounts.
  • Liquidity requirements: you should have at least 6 months' worth of living expenses in liquid investments or cash.
  • Legal considerations
  • Unique circumstances: e.g. do you have a special cash outflow that you expect at a certain point in time? (college tuition for children, for example)
Another important thing to do is to look at your investment in a total portfolio context, i.e. in conjunction with your other investments or assets that you own. Whether you already own equities will affect whether it is right for you to invest in more equities. If you own real estate in large values, then it may not be appropriate to invest in real estate investments.

Which brings me to my last point: diversification. This is probably the single most important concept that you need to know as an individual investor. By being well-diversified across financial instruments and geographic markets, you eliminate a portion of risk of your portfolio that would otherwise be there. A well-diversified investor will own both equities and fixed income, and will be invested in several geographic markets (not only the US, for example). A good rule of thumb for your equity/fixed income proportion is to use your age as the percentage of fixed income, i.e. if you are 30, your portfolio should be 30% bonds in value.

Finally, while there may be significant opportunities in FX trading or investing in a single emerging market like Qatar, I would say it would be generally risky to do that only. A good (yet much less sexy) investment would be to put your cash in money-market instruments, like 1y T-Bills (they yield around 4% right now). They are very liquid investments (the only more liquid one is cash), so you have access to your cash at any time, and you make a return that at least protects you against inflation.

The best thing to do is to make an appointment with an investment professional at an asset management firm, who will help you identify the best way to grow your money.
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I’ve a question; with zero experience in investing/trading and 50$ a month, can I invest?! Eno my objective is not making money but gaining experience.
What do you think?
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I’ve a question; with zero experience in investing/trading and 50$ a month, can I invest?! Eno my objective is not making money but gaining experience.
What do you think?
Yes since your objective is to acquire some knnowledge and gaining experience, you can always Play with virtual money this way if u loose or win it would be virtual money. many of these tools are availble on the inetrnet where it simulate the market in real time , this way you would gain some experience as IF u were doing the real thing & you learn as you go along.
and by the way you wont even need to loose your 50$ at all.
try it you would like it and you will have the feel and the basic know-how of the investment field.
Aside from that do some readings its freely available on the net.tons of info
good luck.
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Hello Ana, my personal risk tolerance is 5 to 10% in loss.

I was thinking more of a mutual fund than actually going alone in the stock market in order to protect myself, to some extent, from a loss that would go above 10%.

The illiquid investments might be bonds or real estate if I'm not mistaken? However the former is a long period with relatively low returns and in the latter, I personally don't have much experience. With those two illiquid examples, one would assume that the risk is lower, however you mentioned that liquid investments = less risk, could you please further develop on that?

Thanks for the sound advice on the need to keep a safety net, that is recommendable for everyone; if I wanted to summarize your input, you're basically recommending a forex move in the US Dollar, what about mutual funds in emerging markets such as the BRIC or other Latin American/Asian markets if someone is looking got a target 15% total return over 3 years?

Appreciating your input.
Financial advisors cost money..... and their advice (in my opinion) is worthless. Unless you lose some money, you won't know what it is to invest...

15% total return over 3 yrs is 5% a year which is something you could earn by investing in CDs... the amount of $$ you're investing also matters. If you're investing $5K, you basically can't really buy fixed income instruments (i.e. bonds).
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Yes since your objective is to acquire some knnowledge and gaining experience, you can always Play with virtual money this way if u loose or win it would be virtual money. many of these tools are availble on the inetrnet where it simulate the market in real time , this way you would gain some experience as IF u were doing the real thing & you learn as you go along.
and by the way you wont even need to loose your 50$ at all.
try it you would like it and you will have the feel and the basic know-how of the investment field.
Aside from that do some readings its freely available on the net.tons of info
good luck.
First thanks for the reply;

I still need a favour; which “virtual money” website you recommend? There are a lot!

Anyone...?
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