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You cannot post as such and accuse others of it.

No one said financial analysts are not thinkers .... And they too need quite a lot of mathematics .........

You do talk like a typical Lebanese.

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Go learn mathematics and physics if you think this is critical thinking, don't waste your time with Laplace and Fourrier transforms, they teach you nothing. Ba3den you're telling me that lawyers and financial analysts are not critical thinkers, only engineers are. 3a2liyye lebneniyye raj3iyye


And you think that the power courses that they teach you help you design a power grid system, or the communication courses they teach you will show you how a GSM grid network works, nothing that you learn is useful for the industry.
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You cannot post as such and accuse others of it.

No one said financial analysts are not thinkers .... And they too need quite a lot of mathematics .........

You do talk like a typical Lebanese.
you are saying that critical thinking is done through mathematics, physics and engineering. That means lawyers are not critical thinkers since they don't take mathematics or physics in their courses.
Thats typical lebanese thinking, mhandes aw 7akim all the others suck.
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If I said that Mathematics teaches you X and Y it does not mean I was conclusive in that ONLY mathematics is the only way to teach you X and Y ways of thinkings ... etc ....

Typical Lebanese is assuming things and jumping into conclusions and ruminating cliches and throwing them into others ........

Enough for now.

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you are saying that critical thinking is done through mathematics, physics and engineering. That means lawyers are not critical thinkers since they don't take mathematics or physics in their courses.
Thats typical lebanese thinking, mhandes aw 7akim all the others suck.
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If I said that Mathematics teaches you X and Y it does not mean I was conclusive in that ONLY mathematics is the only way to teach you X and Y ways of thinkings ... etc ....

Typical Lebanese is assuming things and jumping into conclusions and ruminating cliches and throwing them into others ........

Enough for now.
halla2 ma tiji tetzaka 3layna, there is thread and there is a chain of thoughts that have been followed here, we are not talking about a single post.
The thread is about which engineering to do, i came and said engineering is useless because it is geared towards the industry and advised people to do something, you came and said that engineering is useful because it teaches you critical thinking so you are defending engineering crediting it with teaching you critical thinking based on math and physics, if all other bachelors teach critical thinking then your initial post defending engineering as being something useful falls.
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You have issues with "triple integrals" and root locus analysis (-1 point of instability), with eddie currents ....

You have issues with Academic courses.

I told you they are not useless for they are designed and taught for a reason.

I am not saying engineering is useful because it teaches you critical thinking ... I never said that ... you either misread me .. or you are just confused ... Or you cannot simply follow the logic if my conversation and relate it to what you are saying ....... I cannot help you here.

I am not here ta "etzeka 3aleik" ... I don't feel I really need to.

The biggest form of ignorance is the illusion that you are knowledgeable. And this is what clearly describes you in this thread ... Your posts are full of assumptions and misreadings .... And also of generalizations.



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halla2 ma tiji tetzaka 3layna, there is thread and there is a chain of thoughts that have been followed here, we are not talking about a single post.
The thread is about which engineering to do, i came and said engineering is useless because it is geared towards the industry and advised people to do something, you came and said that engineering is useful because it teaches you critical thinking so you are defending engineering crediting it with teaching you critical thinking based on math and physics, if all other bachelors teach critical thinking then your initial post defending engineering as being something useful falls.
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My brother is a Mechanical engineer and he's doing just fine in his company located in lebanon!
I guess his position is "Mechanical software engineer"! Dunno what exactly he doe (its with machines and creating them:P) but all i know that the salary is exellent for a 2006 graduate working in lebanon!
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Tsunami 27, there are couple things you should know before choosing any major specially engineering,

1) Everyone saying that there are a lot of courses you study and never use, is right and normal as these major and the most broad majors in any univeristy programs.

For example you finish Mechanical and you can work in the Air Conditioning industrt, or Car industry, or Airplane industry, or boats industry, or or... I need tens of pages ...

2) Never think that you will graduate and be ready to design and work everything... All the university does is to prepare you to STUDY quickly qhen you get into the company. When you go into the company, you'll just have an idea a bout the work but you'll study the work by experience...

3) A lot of courses overlap in all 3 majors ( Civil, mechanical, electrical)

It's not true at all the electrical is the hardest, from what I know it's the opposite...

4) If you want to stay in Lebanon, you can find jobs as Mechanical and Civil more than electrical... Even though electrical engineering is needed in construction too...

coz in Lebanon and Gulf you have a lot of contrustion happpening and they need the 3 types of engineers...

5) My personal opinion is to go with Mechanical. Maybe because i've done it, and from what I say, you can never sit at home, you'll always have something to work...

And for the person who said that going to BMW is impossible, never think that way... My friend graduated with me 2 years ago, and now he's working in Ferrari, Italy...

Nothing is impossible...

6) As for Universities, It depends on the major you're going to choose...

If Mechanical... go for NDU
If electrical... go for AUB
If Civil... both are good...

I hope I helped, please if you need anything else, let me know

Thank you!!
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Go for mechanical engineering and don't even think twice :)
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My brother is a Mechanical engineer and he's doing just fine in his company located in lebanon!
I guess his position is "Mechanical software engineer"! Dunno what exactly he doe (its with machines and creating them:P) but all i know that the salary is exellent for a 2006 graduate working in lebanon!
Tell your brother to be ready
I am going to compete with him in 5 years
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yeah so at AUB they are offering two new types of engineering Chemical engineerign (with a minor in petro studies) and construction engineering (which sounds pretty cool)... Bas does anyone know what is the difference between civil and construction?
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