[Help]Mechanical/Electrical

[shevchenco]

Originally Posted by Tsunami27

Engineers rule the World
Sheva, el electrical what position he could handle in the work field?

it depends on your discipline. I am in microsystems/nanotechnology. there's also power, telecommunications, electronics in general, even networking. the thing is electrical and computer overlap big time.

[orange infection]

ana 3am ba3mel electrical and i regret not choosing mechanical
i don't care what kid fo engineering i choose i just want a decent work
right now in leb
civil is number 1 , then comes mechanical then electrical
as for hard courses it's the complete opposite , civil have by far the lamest courses ever ma 3ada el structures :P

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by orange infection

ana 3am ba3mel electrical and i regret not choosing mechanical
i don't care what kid fo engineering i choose i just want a decent work
right now in leb
civil is number 1 , then comes mechanical then electrical
as for hard courses it's the complete opposite , civil have by far the lamest courses ever ma 3ada el structures :P

but civil they get out of university and right away they use their knowledge on the market, when you get out of university you would have learned all useless stuff like thermodynamics and those loads of stupid courses that you never use, you will end up doing HVAC and sizing based on catalogues.
Engineering is useless if you don't go into research and do a PhD. You'd better do technical studies, they are more hands on and if you want to work in Lebanon TS is the maximum you need.

[abientot]

Originally Posted by orange infection

ana 3am ba3mel electrical and i regret not choosing mechanical
i don't care what kid fo engineering i choose i just want a decent work
right now in leb
civil is number 1 , then comes mechanical then electrical
as for hard courses it's the complete opposite , civil have by far the lamest courses ever ma 3ada el structures :P

Based on the available job offers over the past few years (in Lebanon and the Gulf area) Electrical and mechanical engineers are the most wanted with almost equal numbers, then comes civil engineeers, and the least wanted are the computer and communications engineers.
I dont know if the recent crisis in Dubai affected the numbers but the ranking of the 4 majors is still the same.
At AUB they recently established a new program called electrical and computer engineering (ECE) which is very popular right now and easy to do since electrical and computer take common course during the first 2-3 years, it's really the elective courses that differ.

[crazy]

Tsunami, if you choose ECE (electrical and computer engineering at AUB) you can work in: power, communication, networks, computer architecture, computer animation, biomedical, construction... and the list goes on and on.. it depends on the elective you choose, I for instance tried to took everything concerning networking, a friend took everything related to electronics etc. In the end you graduate with an ECE diploma and work in anything you like ^^

You can even work in: Marketing, economics, finance, consulting (that's the trend nowadays with AUBites engineers), you're definetly not limited to your engineering major.
And ECE is not difficult, you just need to work like all other majors...

[Danny Z]

You electrical guys working in the middle east have to explain to me if you work in engineering how the 3 course of machinery helped you with anything at all in your work, when did you ever use the eddie currents at your jobs, also please explain to me where you used the engineering analysis course or analog communication anywhere. How about the triple integral of closed volume and the eigen value, those i bet were very useful in your career right?
You better do TS if you're looking to work in industry, you'll be hands on at least, you graduate and know what to do. Again Bachelor is good for Masters and PhD. or to if you run for elections then you can say al mouhandes foulen el fleni.

[orange infection]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

but civil they get out of university and right away they use their knowledge on the market, when you get out of university you would have learned all useless stuff like thermodynamics and those loads of stupid courses that you never use, you will end up doing HVAC and sizing based on catalogues.
Engineering is useless if you don't go into research and do a PhD. You'd better do technical studies, they are more hands on and if you want to work in Lebanon TS is the maximum you need.

khabberna inta shou metkhassas mr useful :P

Originally Posted by Danny Z

You electrical guys working in the middle east have to explain to me if you work in engineering how the 3 course of machinery helped you with anything at all in your work, when did you ever use the eddie currents at your jobs, also please explain to me where you used the engineering analysis course or analog communication anywhere. How about the triple integral of closed volume and the eigen value, those i bet were very useful in your career right?

lol , these are useless hard courses
my teacher always says , in work we only need 5% of what we learned , we just don't know wich 5% we're going to use
well i say it's even less than 5%

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by orange infection

khabberna inta shou metkhassas mr useful :P

You don't know i am in brevet, Waynak 3ayesh?

Originally Posted by orange infection

lol , these are useless hard courses
my teacher always says , in work we only need 5% of what we learned , we just don't know wich 5% we're going to use
well i say it's even less than 5%

They are just selling you bull because they don't know how to design courses for the industry, especially in a market like the middle east, what's the point of learning VLSI in the middle east? or that feedback graph thingy where you have to rotate around the -1 point for stability, what was that about anyway. They better teach the CISCO certification.

[mansaf123]

Academy teaches you how to "think", how to relate and reason. Critical thinking, elimination, analysis, etc ... This is done through Mathematics ... Physics ... Study of electrical engineering on the scientific and theoretical level ...practical courses should complement it ...

Practical courses of fixing a transformer will not prepare you to design a power grid or a complex oil / gas field instrumentation system or troubleshoot a new problem that you have not seen in one of those "practical courses" ........


Long Live Mathematics .......... A brilliant engineer saying it

Originally Posted by Danny Z

You don't know i am in brevet, Waynak 3ayesh?




They are just selling you bull because they don't know how to design courses for the industry, especially in a market like the middle east, what's the point of learning VLSI in the middle east? or that feedback graph thingy where you have to rotate around the -1 point for stability, what was that about anyway. They better teach the CISCO certification.

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by mansaf123

Academy teaches you how to "think", how to relate and reason. Critical thinking, elimination, analysis, etc ... This is done through Mathematics ... Physics ... Study of electrical engineering on the scientific and theoretical level ...practical courses should complement it ...

Go learn mathematics and physics if you think this is critical thinking, don't waste your time with Laplace and Fourrier transforms, they teach you nothing. Ba3den you're telling me that lawyers and financial analysts are not critical thinkers, only engineers are. 3a2liyye lebneniyye raj3iyye

Originally Posted by mansaf123

Practical courses of fixing a transformer will not prepare you to design a power grid or a complex oil / gas field instrumentation system or troubleshoot a new problem that you have not seen in one of those "practical courses" ........

And you think that the power courses that they teach you help you design a power grid system, or the communication courses they teach you will show you how a GSM grid network works, nothing that you learn is useful for the industry.