Your opinion on Pedofils

[rayograph]

Originally Posted by Gaius Julius Caesar

The connection between homosexuality and pedophelia is the degeneration of morals. Once you justify one, it's not too long before you justify the other. You can find proof of that in San Francisco and Amsterdam were moral depravity is rewarded and the most extreme cases of profane behaviour are now the norm. Thuggishh_E is asking an honest question, what does the future hold and what is the limit? Some people actually care about what kind of society their children will grow up in.

the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia is like the difference between raw food and filth...

should you educate yourself more you'd have known that modern psychology defines homosexuality as an "orientation" whereas it considers "pedophilia" a moral deviation...

besides, pedophilia doesn't differentiate between sexes and what makes it even sicker is the fact that an older person takes advantage of and abuses a helpless under-age whereas homosexuality is a choice made by 2 adult persons who are "majeur et vaccine"...

and if all what you see in San Francisco and Amsterdam is "moral depravity" and "profane behaviour", let's hope you'll learn one day to respect a human being and his choices and his rights that affect no one else but him and let's hope Lebanon will have as rich a culture as Amsterdam and as good an order as theirs...

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Originally Posted by rayograph

the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia is like the difference between raw food and filth...

should you educate yourself more you'd have known that modern psychology defines homosexuality as an "orientation" whereas it considers "pedophilia" a moral deviation...

besides, pedophilia doesn't differentiate between sexes and what makes it even sicker is the fact that an older person takes advantage of and abuses a helpless under-age whereas homosexuality is a choice made by 2 adult persons who are "majeur et vaccine"...

and if all what you see in San Francisco and Amsterdam is "moral depravity" and "profane behaviour", let's hope you'll learn one day to respect a human being and his choices and his rights that affect no one else but him and let's hope Lebanon will have as rich a culture as Amsterdam and as good an order as theirs...

As I said in my previous post, homosexuality and pedophelia are not equivelant but they are both of the same product of moral degeneration. When you start participating in the unnatural act of homosexuality, you're not too far off from participating or accepting pedophelia. Pedophelia is not restricted to one region of the world or homosexuals, but it is only in ultra-liberal societies such as San Francisco and Amsterdam that you hear of "Pedophile Rights" and the crime itself is not aggressively pursued. Moral depravity is at the root of homosexuality and pedophelia.

In Psychology everything is justified from murder to rape, homosexuality to pedophelia. If we relied on psychologists to enact our laws, there would be widespread anarchy and the crime rate would explode. Morality is what keeps a society from spiraling out of control, not psychologists.

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by Gaius Julius Caesar

As I said in my previous post, homosexuality and pedophelia are not equivelant but they are both of the same product of moral degeneration. When you start participating in the unnatural act of homosexuality, you're not too far off from participating or accepting pedophelia. Pedophelia is not restricted to one region of the world or homosexuals, but it is only in ultra-liberal societies such as San Francisco and Amsterdam that you hear of "Pedophile Rights" and the crime itself is not aggressively pursued. Moral depravity is at the root of homosexuality and pedophelia.

In Psychology everything is justified from murder to rape, homosexuality to pedophelia. If we relied on psychologists to enact our laws, there would be widespread anarchy and the crime rate would explode. Morality is what keeps a society from spiraling out of control, not psychologists.

We know what you have said and you are wrong, everything can be explained by psychology even your intolerance of others. You have to know when to draw the line of what is accepted and what is not accepted. I find your behavior of not accepting others moral degeneration, but since you are not restricting anyones liberty yet or nobody is restricting yours, you can still give your opinion and you are OK and this how you should treat homosexuals.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Abufijli

What about FPM's view on incestual relations?

They don't wanna answer the question. Too bad we'll never get our rights supported.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

We know what you have said and you are wrong, everything can be explained by psychology even your intolerance of others. You have to know when to draw the line of what is accepted and what is not accepted. I find your behavior of not accepting others moral degeneration, but since you are not restricting anyones liberty yet or nobody is restricting yours, you can still give your opinion and you are OK and this how you should treat homosexuals.

Can we treat those who are in incestual relations the same way? I mean why not? If we replace Homosexuals with them in your posts, we'd find them more logical. Shou ra2yak? It's only religion and culture that stops us. We've made a great step forward with homosexuality, incest should've come first. Ma fiha shi, who's right is it to say you can't sleep with your family? They are standing in the way for human rights.

[shadow1]

When I was 14, under age, I was desperate for someone to sexually molest me but no one did. Now I am glad that didnt happen, it would've left my molester with a horrible trauma.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by shadow1

When I was 14, under age, I was desperate for someone to sexually molest me but no one did. Now I am glad that didnt happen, it would've left my molester with a horrible trauma.

You've made a point there Shadow. Children might not mind it, so why are they standing in their way? Who's right is it to set age limits for sex?

[Abu Ruman]

Originally Posted by Thuggishh_E

i got the idea from this previous thread FPM on Gays.

so i want to ask these questions:

What is the FPM position on Pedofils in Lebanese Society?

What is your position on Pedofils? They don't exist ?

The issue of pedophilia is completely diametric to adult-homosexuality.

In the case of homosexuality, I'm assuming that its between two consentual adults, with mature and independent consciences (as a psychological dictionary would define); pedophilia occurs as a result of an adult imposing his/her will upon an innocent, defenseless child (with a premature and dependent conscience) where harm is done.

That is the difference and thats what changes the fundamental basis of asking both these questions and the way we approach them.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Abu Ruman

The issue of pedophilia is completely diametric to adult-homosexuality.

In the case of homosexuality, I'm assuming that its between two consentual adults, with mature and independent consciences (as a psychological dictionary would define); pedophilia occurs as a result of an adult imposing his/her will upon an innocent, defenseless child (with a premature and dependent conscience) where harm is done.

That is the difference and thats what changes the fundamental basis of asking both these questions and the way we approach them.

Incest is between two concentual adults, with mature and independent consciences (as a phychological dictionary would define).

[shadow1]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

You've made a point there Shadow. Children might not mind it, so why are they standing in their way? Who's right is it to set age limits for sex?

Policy makers when they set the consensual age have to apply one rule to all. I am not sure what is the right age. I'd say base it on people's maturity but again who is to judge and not all kids have the same level of maturity at their respective ages.
In General, I regard Paedophilia as a horrible thing. In my views exploiting children is intolerable. I consider it in most cases an illness and I strongly believe that the older person has to act responsibly against temptations. Then again a paedophile has his interest first and foremost.