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If you are free, free from what? And what are you free to do? Are you free to fly (for example)?
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I'm free to say this thread reeks of gibberish, but in fact, due to our own limited brains, will turn out to be the epitome of deep according to its creator.
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I'm free to say this thread reeks of gibberish, but in fact, due to our own limited brains, will turn out to be the epitome of deep according to its creator.
What about your post?

Anyway, just answer the questions.

Are you a free person?

I ask this because many people (especially secular people) think they're free ...
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If you are free, free from what? And what are you free to do? Are you free to fly (for example)?
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لا يوجد احرار في هذا العالم فكل منا متعلق بشئ ما ومن الاستحالة ان تجد حر . هناك من يتعلق بزوجته فيصبح عبدا لمشاعره هناك من يتعبد العلم فيصبح متاثرا به . هناك لحظات نشعر بها بالحرية لكن في حياتنا بشكل عام لسنا احرار . ربما قد مر المسيح على التاريخ واعتقد انه الحر الوحيد في هذه الدنيا فهو كامل ليس بحاجة ليكتمل بشئ من اشياء هذا العالم
وجبران خليل جبران كان شبه كامل زنيتشه كذلك الامر ربما شخصيا اشعر ببعض نفحات الحرية معهم فانا اشعر انني بين ايدي الله
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If you are free, free from what? And what are you free to do? Are you free to fly (for example)?
ما هي الحرية كبداية؟ما تعريفها؟ هناك من يقول أن الحرية هي أن تفعل ما يحلو لك دون أن يحاسبك أحد وهناك أيضا من يعتبرأن حريتي تتوقف عند حدود حرية الاخرين
نرى اذن الإختلاف عند نقطة البداية الا وهي تعريف الحرية
بغض النظر عن تلك الإختلافات, السؤال الذي طرح هو :أنت حر مم؟
انت حر لتعمل ماذا؟
سأجيب عن نفسي
أنا حرة من الاخر. تسالني كيف؟كل ما أعمله ليس بهدف أن يلاقي استحسانا ما بل لأجلي
أنا حرة من اليأس,فإن غدا يوم أخر ولا بد أن تنجلي الغيوم
أنا حرة من أشياء كثيرة لا ينتبه إليها الأنسان ولكنها تستعبده ويكون لها ذليلا
أنا حرة لأفكر بما أريد وأفرح بما أريد وأحلم بما أريد
أنا حرة لأنني لا أعبأ بقيود المجتمع بل أهتم فقط بما وضعه لي خالقي الذي أعبد والذي يستحق العبادة والذي أحبه فوق كل شيء
أمام خالقي أنا مخلوق ضعيف
قوتي تأتي من استكانتي للخالق وحريتي هو وحده الذي يضع أطرها ويحددها

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Yes, I am a free person, I feel like that.

I feel free because my heart is not a prisoner of anything. I always do what I think I have to do and I do it with joy, discipline and gladness. I adore all my friends but I am not what I am to please them but because I want to be like this.

If someone doesn't like me or if some of my friends hurts me I feel sad but I'll move on, I don't hold grudges.
And if the entire world hate me I try to not to care... Honestly I believe God is always with me and one day I'll be with Him forever and ever. So why should we worry about bad moments in our short life?

I love my family and I feel secure and protected by them. Thank God I don't anyone controlling my decisions, so I feel free to choose my future. Anyway, I think the real freedom is in your heart. You can be in a concentration camp and still fell free. A heart full of faith and courage gives you the real freedom: the freedom to Love. It saddens me every time I heard someone saying because of a hearth breaking they can't love anyone else... how sad prison this hearth must be.
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For me freedom is when you have a choice, when it’s only you who govern your own action.
Moreover freedom is when you can live without a feeling of guilt.
Am I free? Let me think….
No I’m not!
I have an exam on Thursday, I don’t want to take it but I have to in order to graduate so that I can find a decent job!
I want to live a life of a vagabond! But I can’t!
There is certain things (that I won’t share )that I can never do because of a certain moral code.
I don’t want to go to Lebanon this summer, but I have to otherwise my parents would get upset
Anyway there is a lot of different things that I don’t want to do but I still have to do and will end up doing in order to fit in a society and to survive in it! so bottom line, at this phase of my life I m not free, and I can feel it….
There is only 2 things that makes me feel I’m free
1-I’m free to speak my mind, and free to believe and think what I want.
2-I feel very free and open when I’m swimming underwater (aka diving) don’t know why..maybe because it makes me feel I m in a different world!
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لستُ أدري إن كنتُ حرّاً أم لا. فأنا لا أبني على الإجابات الجاهزة، وأرى أصحابها مجموعة من المُدّعين القابضينَ على عُنُق الحقيقة

سلاسل كثيرة تحوطُني من خارج ومن داخل. في واقعٍ تسيطر عليه الأحزاب الشموليّة الحديديّة بزعمائها-الآلهة، وفضاءٍ أسرَهُ اليقين وحرمَه من الحُلم والسؤال

لا زلتُ أعيش بقوة الضوء النابض في قلبي. والأبجديّة تُنمي حدائقَ لي وأغصاناً مزهرة ربيعيّة، بها أتنفّس ولها أستمر

أعيش لأكونَ حراً، ولأزرعَ لأجلِ مواسم الحصاد التي قد لا أشهد كثيرها

والحرية تحقّق مستمرّ ومتتابع، قُطوفُها دانية لغُربائها، فحينَ يهجُم أبناء العتمة مُدّعينَ الانتماء إليها، ليسَ لهذه اللبوة الجريحة إلا هؤلاء الغرباء الآتينَ مع أوّلِ ليل! لأنهم العاملون في الظلّ والهامش، المجهولة أسماؤُهم، والغائبون قبلَ استيقاظ الناس وتكاثر المُدّعين ومُنتحلي الأسماء والصفات
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i am free as long as i can love others .
i am free as long as i can respect others freedom .
i am free as long as i know when to stop being free so i dont step on other's freedom .
i am free as long a know how to set my priorities in life .
i am free as long as i love and respect Gods creations from the smalest to the bigest , the weaker to the stronger .
i am free as long as im doing what is right for the benefit of human kind and its prosperity .
freedom is not easy or cheap . it was given to us by God . God gave us every thing and along with it the freedom to make choices . it is up to us to use it the proper way .
and most of the time we simply fail to be free because of one thing . because we dont LOVE enough ... for me freedom is LOVE . when you Love you have wings and yes you can fly ... you can do everything freely when you love .
when you love you free your soul and you do lots of good positive things around you and to others ... this makes you feel extremely free .
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ربما علينا الاقرار شيئا فشيئا ومع تقدم الانسانية ، اننا لسنا احرارا الا مع الاخرين وكيف ذا؟
ربما قجد تستغربو الجواب لكن تمعنوا بالفكرة وقد اككون على حق: الانسان يشعر بحريته حين يفرض رايه على الاخر ، انا اتخدذ القرار وهو ينفذ. هذا الشعور الذي يشنا مع مفهومن للحرية , الحث الارادة الحض الارغام ، كل تلك هي من رواسب الحرية وفعليا ليست الا فرضا على الاخرين بالتالي مفهومنا للحرية لسيس الا صراع مع الاخرين وصراعنا بذاته يشعرنا باننا احرار . ربما انا مجنونة لكن هناك من تواردت افكاري معه نيتشه وجبران , علنا ندخل العصفورية معا !!!

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