Are you with Abortion?

[sanfoura]

Originally Posted by myrrh

and what about a woman who already has 5 children and can barely feed them and dress them normally, should she keep the 6th in her womb?? (who will probably live "bel te3tir" if he came to this world)??

Didn’t she think about that before she got pregnant? Or during her early months? I personally believe that every child is born with his share in this world. I think this excuse is pathetic.

[mount_amel]

Originally Posted by sanfoura

Didn’t she think about that before she got pregnant? Or during her early months? I personally believe that every child is born with his share in this world. I think this excuse is pathetic.

Hehehe .. good one sanfoura ..

Living in te3teer is a justification for a crime , you jusyt walk out the court free .. How odd can it be ?


Salam

[Vitoria]

Originally Posted by sanfoura

I personally believe that every child is born with his share in this world.

What a beautiful message, sanfoura! As a catholic, I think the same as you.
I'm against abortion. We shouldn't judge anyone, but a mother who doesn't love her own child will never be able to love anyone more... Children are the best in the world, we women should defend them, even the ones who are not born yet.

[elhorr]

قبل الاسبوع الثامن من انقطاع الطمث لا بأس

اما ان يكون الجنين مصاب باعاقة جينية او تشوهات غير ذي اهمية او ان يكون طبيعيا فلا
انه قتل نفس
و لا احد يملك الحق بذلك
لا الام و لا الاب و لا احد
حتى الجنين المكون من اغتصاب لا يجوز اسقاطه

[Chief]

To some extent ...
In some cases you should accept it

[Omega80]

From a moral perspective I am against it. However, from a practical point of view, I am with it. So therefore, I AM WITH IT

Although I do believe you are ending life, I think it would be far worse for a baby to be born into a situation where it is not wanted. Usually, like in the U.S. for example, the baby would be born into a lower income group to a single mother, who won't do a good job of raising the child in the first place and providing it with a normal life.

Also, there is evidence to suggest that the legalization of abortion in America eventually led to the lowering of the crime rate, but I won't get into that now.

[fpm_stanford]

i'm TOTALLY with...

it's the woman's decision after all... it's her body, she's the one carrying the potential child... if she doesn't want to go through with, nothing should force her to.

[leb_patriot]

well if it's before 3 month it's ok i'm with it

and if they embryo has something wrong in it

[MeG]

Hello Dearest...
Here Below a research I made On Abortion, and the conclusion I came up with was depended on the laws, regulations of some countries and Human values. ( And I would Like to appology from the users for the Long Post that it might Look Boring, But Hopefully Informative).

The concept of abortion has entered the twenty-first century no less of a controversial issue than it was, when it entered the twentieth, for the question of its legality and morality is still hotly debated by both advocates and opposition.
The methodology of abortion, however, has entered the new century surrounded by a sense of safety, sterility(unfruitfulness) and sensibility unprecedented(exceptional or unique) in previous years. Women of the twenty-first century, however, should not forget the fact that what is currently condensed in a handful of pills represents over a hundred years of persistence and perseverance. It is a legacy long in coming and laced with lessons learned and boundaries broken."
The methodologies of abortion are the following:
A woman can get rid of her unborn baby using the following steps;
Note that there are three operations( suctions) and two natural abortion after the birth.

Menstrual Extraction
A very early suction abortion, often done before the pregnancy test is positive.

Suction
The procedure tears the baby's body into pieces and the tube frequently jerks as pieces of the baby become lodged (stuck).The placenta is then cut from the inner wall of the uterus and the scraps are sucked out into a bottle.

Dilatation & Curettage (D&C)
Uncommon today and used during the first 10 weeks of pregnancy. This is similar to the suction procedure except that the abortionist inserts a curette, a loop-shaped steel knife up into the uterus. He then cuts the placenta and baby into pieces and scrapes them out into a basin. Bleeding is usually profuse.

Hysterotomy
This method is usually used late in pregnancy and is likened to an "early" Caesarian section. The mother's abdomen and uterus are surgically opened and the baby is lifted out.

Prostaglandin Abortions
The hormone produces a violent labor and delivery of whatever size baby the mother carries. If the baby is old enough to survive the trauma of labor, it may be born alive, but is usually too small to survive. In one article, among the complications listed was "live birth!"

RU-486
A drug that produces an abortion taken after the mother misses her period. Its effect is to block the use of an essential hormonal nutrient by the newly-implanted baby, who then dies, and drops off.

US laws’ restricting abortions:
In the early 1970’s, most states of the United States prohibited abortion except under special medical circumstances. Such circumstances included the need to protect the life or health of the mother. In the 1973, in the case of roe V. wade, the supreme court of the United States delivered a landmark decision on abortion. The court ruled that states could not forbid a woman to have an abortion during the first trimester (three months) of pregnancy. The court reasoned that early termination is usually safer for the woman than full-term pregnancy. During the second trimester, states may regulate abortion only to protect woman’s health. The Roe V. Wade decision held that the right of privacy is implied in the US constitution and allows a woman to decide for her if she will have an abortion.
A number of state legislatures have voted on bills that would outlaw abortion except in cases of rape, or to save the mother’s life, but most have not passed or have been vetoed by the governor. In 1992, the court upheld the 1973 ruling but permitted states to place further restrictions on abortion, such as parental or spousal notification and a 24 hours waiting period before the procedure.

Canadian laws and regulations:
During 1988, the Canadian Supreme Court declared the Federal law regulating abortion (Section 287 of the Criminal Code) was in conflict with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms -- the Canadian constitution. It was thus unconstitutional. Parliament tried to pass a replacement law, but was unable to compromise on a suitable wording. The country has remained to this day without a law regulating abortions. Decisions are left up to the women, their doctors and medical associations. Abortions are readily available up to 20 weeks in hospitals of most large cities, and in a few free-standing clinics.

How the religion looks at abortion.
The Biblical mandate against abortion is as old as the law of God itself, and is not subject to man's rationalizations, or willful redefining. Man may try and justify abortion in his own mind, but he cannot by smooth words of nullification make what is transgression, righteous. The law of God states simply and quite definitely, that all God religions’ extremely forbid the abortion under any reason..
Obviously It is not a matter of accepting or rejecting the idea of abortion, perhaps, it is a matter directly related to human’s beliefs, values, life conditions and relations with God.

Best Regards,
MeG

[Claudia]

I am against Abortion. I am Pro-life person.

An interesting article (from a Pro-life testimony):

This is a subject that hits close to home.

My older sister was born mentally retarded. She's always been very childlike and trusting. At best, her mental capacity is on par with a bright 8-year old.
Well, in 1986 a friend of the family and next door neighbor (an elderly man) lured her into his home and raped her. My step-father caught him in the act after hearing my sister's voice in the man's house. When he knocked on the door and got no answer, he knocked the door off it's hinges and let himself in.
And I am convinced that if not for my step-father being a pastor, our neighbor would have met the Lord in person that very day. Instead he was handed over to the police and spent the rest of his life in prison.

Months later we learned that the rape had resulted in an unplanned pregnancy. Because of my sisters condition, it would be a dangerous situation. The hopital strongly advised my parents to abort the baby. They prayed about it and waited on the Lord. They wanted the child, my sister wanted the child. And in time, they felt the Lord wanted them to have the child, so they turned down the abortion.

In early 1987 a healthy baby boy was delivered by cesarean section. My sister suffered no ill effects and came home with her son a few days after giving birth.

That child was one of the best things that ever happened to our family. And none of us have ever regretted our parents decision to decline an abortion. My nephew is one of the sweetest natured people I've ever known. He loves the Lord, loves reading his Bible, and dotes on his mother.
And while he, like his mom, is somewhat mentally challenged (to a far lesser degree), he is fully capable of caring for her and takes a great deal of pride in doing so. I can't imagine what life would be like today if he had been terminated in the womb.

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