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لا اتصور ............انا متاكدة ان من يحرم من شئ يعطيه ....خصوصا من يحرم من الحب والحنان يعطيه اكثر مما هو بنفسه الفرد قادر على التخيل يعطي لحد الجنون ...يعطي حتى يموت هلاكا ليس فقط مع الولد بل بشكل عام مع كل الافراد ....مع الاصدقاء ...مع حتى الذين لا يعرفهم

لكن هنا هذا الامر ليس بمطروح ليس مطروحا ان سيكون قادرا على فعل الحنان او لا ...المطروح هو ما سيحصل لليتيم بحد ذاته ان مات احد والديه من اجله .....دائما علينا اتفكير بالنتائج ( حتى لو ميت وحشري ...نعم انا ميت وحشري) ....افضل ان اموت مع والدي لو كان الخيار بيدي ...اصلا لم تقبلت ان يموت من اجلي ....افضل ان اموت من اجله ...قمة الانانية ربما ...لكنني اموت من اجل من احب ولا اريد ان يموت من يحبني من اجلي
True, if a child lives with a lack of love, in the future he/she will unwillingly maybe try to give more than needed because of the fact of the deprevation that he/she lived.
I doubt that the love of a child can be matched by any other type of love. The love of a child, is a unique form of love, very different from that of a woman, a man, a freind, etc. This I can debate with you in another thread.
An orphan is a human. Maybe a human with a deficiency of love, of attention, but nonetheless a human capable of living a normal life, and giving maybe more than others. We're all orphans at one time in our lives.
I will not dispute your feelings, they are your own and no matter how hard I try to understand them, I am not the one living them. I will respect them but still think differently.
My sister was 5 years old when she lost her father, 6 when she lost her mother. What was I to do? Kill her to relieve her of her misery, or love her more than I can believe I could to make her life as normal as possible? Just a small example.
Maybe one day the child will become a father, or a mother. Who has the right to deny them that right?

لكنني اموت من اجل من احب ولا اريد ان يموت من يحبني من اجلي I agree, me too.
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i would definitely die for the people i love and for my country!
i'd rather die than live with the guilt of not saving those who are the most precious to my heart..

this might sound crazy, but i do talk about this with my man! and we got to the conclusion that we'd rather both die sawa than one for the other!
because i can't bear the idea of him dying for me...i don't think i can ever get over this one! so i'd rather die...maybe avenging him i don't know... but i'd surely follow him!!
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i would definitely die for the people i love and for my country!
i'd rather die than live with the guilt of not saving those who are the most precious to my heart..

this might sound crazy, but i do talk about this with my man! and we got to the conclusion that we'd rather both die sawa than one for the other!
because i can't bear the idea of him dying for me...i don't think i can ever get over this one! so i'd rather die...maybe avenging him i don't know... but i'd surely follow him!!
tu m'as pousser a faire une reflexion sur une chanson pour mylene farmer ( les mots ) dans ce clip .... a la fin son bien aime meurt il fut pris par la mer ... je me suis demande pourquoi elle ne l'a pas suivit
انا لا اتحمل ان يموت من احب من اجلي لكن انا جد انانية افضل ان اموت من اجلهم
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True, if a child lives with a lack of love, in the future he/she will unwillingly maybe try to give more than needed because of the fact of the deprevation that he/she lived.
I doubt that the love of a child can be matched by any other type of love. The love of a child, is a unique form of love, very different from that of a woman, a man, a freind, etc. This I can debate with you in another thread.
An orphan is a human. Maybe a human with a deficiency of love, of attention, but nonetheless a human capable of living a normal life, and giving maybe more than others. We're all orphans at one time in our lives.
I will not dispute your feelings, they are your own and no matter how hard I try to understand them, I am not the one living them. I will respect them but still think differently.
My sister was 5 years old when she lost her father, 6 when she lost her mother. What was I to do? Kill her to relieve her of her misery, or love her more than I can believe I could to make her life as normal as possible? Just a small example.
Maybe one day the child will become a father, or a mother. Who has the right to deny them that right?

لكنني اموت من اجل من احب ولا اريد ان يموت من يحبني من اجلي I agree, me too.
I am so sorry for your loss. Now I respect you more, because you had to go through this painful experience, and you obviously came out of it a man.
I just want to say that I know how much orphans lack tenderness, care... and this, I can't imagine it for my daughter. I lost my mom when I wasn't a child, and I still can't handle it. My daughter will definitely make a great woman and mother, however, I do not know the quality of life she will have if I wasn't around.
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this might sound crazy, but i do talk about this with my man! and we got to the conclusion that we'd rather both die sawa than one for the other!
because i can't bear the idea of him dying for me...i don't think i can ever get over this one! so i'd rather die...maybe avenging him i don't know... but i'd surely follow him!!
Do you think there is still something called Romeo and Juliette?
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Do you think there is still something called Romeo and Juliette?
no no boiler what talked about xena is not romeo and not juliette even its not jamil bousayna :)
ما قالت عنه هو ان العيش كريه جدا ان مات من نحب خصوصا زوج او والد ليس فقط من اجل الحب ...بل من اجل المعانات ..الانسان يشعر بحرقة حين يموت صديق لم تعش معه ايام وايام كيف اذا حبيب عشت معه اكثرر مما فعلت مع اهلك ربما ..او انه تؤام روحك ...تشعر كان الروح انفسخت عن الروح ...القلب بات قطعتين ...وبالنسبة لي في هذه الحالة من الاجدر ان اموت على ان اقضي ما بقي من الحياة لان اصلا الحياة كريهة كيف مع شعور كهذا كيف ستبتسم فيما بعد هل ستطمح لا الطموح له طعم ولا لون لان من احببته اعطاك كل الوان الدنيا ( لا اتكلم عن الحبيب فقط) ...ان المسالة معقدة هي اعقد من روميو وجوليت
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Do you think there is still something called Romeo and Juliette?
Romeo & Juliette are just an example of 2 people truly living their passion!
even though i have to admit that passion is a little bit risky since you can sometimes switch from one extreme feeling to the opposite, and then switch back ...or maybe it's just me but that's off-topic!

as Omeros said, it has some egoism in it…i don't know... but i don't think i can go through life knowing that the person i'm ready to sacrifice my life for gave away his life for me! i'd feel very guilty!!
i think the easiest way is to follow him!
(ya3ne l7e2to 3ala brussels, don't you think i would follow him to the after life ...ejreh 3a ejro! )
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Romeo & Juliette are just an example of 2 people truly living their passion!
even though i have to admit that passion is a little bit risky since you can sometimes switch from one extreme feeling to the opposite, and then switch back ...or maybe it's just me but that's off-topic!

as Omeros said, it has some egoism in it…i don't know... but i don't think i can go through life knowing that the person i'm ready to sacrifice my life for gave away his life for me! i'd feel very guilty!!
i think the easiest way is to follow him!
(ya3ne l7e2to 3ala brussels, don't you think i would follow him to the after life ...ejreh 3a ejro! )
are u OMEROS ......
حين تحب ...لا تموت فقط جسديا ....تضحي بكل شئ ولو عنت هذه التضحية الموت جزئيا لكن هذه تكون حياة في من تحب...تتخلى عن عالمك كله من اجل ان ترى من تحب سعيدا ...تتخلى عن موطنك فقط من اجل ان تكون مع من تحب ...انا لا اؤمن بان الفتاة ان احبت وغادر حبيبها الرحي تبقى حيث هي وهو في مكان اخر ...تحمل اغراضها وتلحق به حتى لو لم يوافق حتى لو عاشت في جهنم الحمرا ..جهنم ستكون رائعة فقط لانها يقرب من تحب ...ومن لا يفعل هذا من ليس مستعدا ان يقطع انفاسه او اخر رمق من عمره من اجل حبيبه الحبيب لا يكون خياره الابدي يكون مجرد وهم

ومن لا يتحمل الحياة تفصلها قارات ...اسيتحمل الموت فاصل ؟ ههههه اكيد لأ .....ان كان هذا "هو" الى الفرن اذهب معه ليس الموت فقط
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xena ....read the art of love i wrote about what woman do when she love ..this is you :)
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Romeo & Juliette are just an example of 2 people truly living their passion!
even though i have to admit that passion is a little bit risky since you can sometimes switch from one extreme feeling to the opposite, and then switch back ...or maybe it's just me but that's off-topic!

as Omeros said, it has some egoism in it…i don't know... but i don't think i can go through life knowing that the person i'm ready to sacrifice my life for gave away his life for me! i'd feel very guilty!!
i think the easiest way is to follow him!
(ya3ne l7e2to 3ala brussels, don't you think i would follow him to the after life ...ejreh 3a ejro! )
If your love dies, and you kill yourself because of this, Romeo and Juliette story can be used as an example here. Or not?

Do you think following him to brussles is the same as following him to the other life?
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If your love dies, and you kill yourself because of this, Romeo and Juliette story can be used as an example here. Or not?

Do you think following him to brussles is the same as following him to the other life?
if my love died defending me, i just can't live with the idea that he died because of me...that he could have been alive if it wasn't for me!... life will have absolutely no meaning, i'd rather live an intense short life, then a long one filled with only memories, regrets and guilt!

but i'm not talking about suicide! i'm a believer so i can't do it! even though i know i would be very tempted but i believe i'd resist it! but i'll surely take the life of the person who killed him even if it will cost me mine.... or maybe hoping it will cost me mine!

let's say it's another perspective of Romeo & Juliette!!

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Do you think following him to brussles is the same as following him to the other life?
what i meant by that eno the concept mawjoud! specially that i'm a stubborn who gets easily deeply attached to the people i love!
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