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First of all we are not dating @ssholes and casanovas (or at least me not), so someone's intentions are very obvious by the first look, if not then after a first date.

What I meant the case when you think you found THE one finally and you think you know him well after a short time.
I dont think one shall rush these things, it is better to give time...

and yes you are young, dont tell me we shall start thinking about ourselves as old at 25
lol u just made me laugh, I get your point, and I do agree with the fact that we are not dating assholes, but people sometimes becomes assholes. Time will tell like it will tell you if one day he will prupose to you or not.

Girls get the final decisions, they are the one who refuses or accept. Only life will let you know if one day you will meet the one final one as you said. Sometimes people never get the chance to meet this special one, should they date date and date? I dont know, I cant answer that, but sometimes (at least for me) you get bored of dating dating and dating different people from one to another, thats why (for me again) I prefere not dating that much, I get bored from this kind of routine easylie. I prefere to meet someone if he seems decent and have the same values than me but then till when you will date this person, till when he will stay the bf without any other steps involved, I want children one day, I want to settle down, why would I stay years and years with someone who does know me but never sure if I am the right one after years of dating, he is obviously wasting my time and from that point I prefere being single, at least the single life is better than being with someone after years who is never sure what he wants in life. Do you get my point here.
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i dont really know.
i can get sex with or without a girlfriend
i have love from friends and family
i guess i like having her around, b4 i met her my apartment was dark and smelt like whiskey and i had an uncountable number of people who slept over at my house(some friends some i didnt even know), when i met her my apartment became light and had bright flowers and candles tht smell of vanilla(), my house stopped being the local bar/hostel(tht angered alot of people)...so thts the real reason why i have a girlfriend...she makes stuff smell nice.......i guess sex is a good reason to
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كل شاب جامعي كل طالبة جامعية ، او حتى من اعمار مختلفة ، لديهم صديقات او اصدقاء ، يطلقون عليهم "صاحبي - صاحبتي" ، من المهم ان نتناقش عن الاسباب :

لم الرجل يختار صديقة ؟ ما هو الهدف ؟
متى يتحول الهدف جديا ؟
هل السبب هو االحب ، ابعد من الحب ، تمضية وقت ؟ وهل يتحول هذا الامر الى حاجة ام هو بحث عن عاطفة ؟


لم المراة تحتاج الى ان يكون لديها "صاحب" ما الهدف ؟ وهل الهدف هو الثبات والاستقرار ؟ ام تمضية وقت واكتساب خبرة وما هي تلك الخبرة المكتسبة ؟

حين يصبح الرجل ام المراة في عمر يتعدى مرحلة ان يكون لديه صديقة او صديق ، لم لا ينتقل الى مرحلة الزواج ؟
ما نظرة الرجال المتزوجون الى مرحلة "المصاحبة" ؟ وهل هذه التجرية هي تجربة شبابية فقط ، ام انها تتكرر عند الخيانة الزوجية ؟

it's same for men and women both need several things in life:
1- someone to take care of and take care of them
2- a women need a man in her life to makes her feel that she is a women (not only sex)
3- a man need a women to makes him feel he is a real man
4- sure for pleasures and having fun
5- sex
6- experience in life
7- not to be lonely
8- ... etc

talking about the experience, well for both of them experience is very important it will help them in the future to understand the others easly, sometimes bad things hurts when it happens but after while we gane from it a good experience that we don't admit the same mistakes in the future.

marriage has no connection with this phase (bf and gf) because maybe a man and a women spent many years togethers and had a very good relation between them but when it comes to marriage they cannot find themselves suitable for each others, marrage is another story, it's not only about love, love will never last forever.
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it's same for men and women both need several things in life:
1- someone to take care of and take care of them
2- a women need a man in her life to makes her feel that she is a women (not only sex)
3- a man need a women to makes him feel he is a real man
4- sure for pleasures and having fun
5- sex
6- experience in life
7- not to be lonely
8- ... Etc

talking about the experience, well for both of them experience is very important it will help them in the future to understand the others easly, sometimes bad things hurts when it happens but after while we gane from it a good experience that we don't admit the same mistakes in the future.

Marriage has no connection with this phase (bf and gf) because maybe a man and a women spent many years togethers and had a very good relation between them but when it comes to marriage they cannot find themselves suitable for each others, marrage is another story, it's not only about love, love will never last forever.

اذا ، قد لا يكون الحب اساس العلاقة ، انما هو التفاهم ؟
وكما فهمت ، هل ان العلاقات تلك هي نوع من اختبار وطريقة لانضاج المشاعر والافراد ، فالاجتكاك بالاخر يجعل الفرد انضج فيستطيع مع الوقت ، تولي مسؤولية العائلة ؟
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first of all we are not dating @ssholes and casanovas (or at least me not), so someone's intentions are very obvious by the first look, if not then after a first date.

What i meant the case when you think you found the one finally and you think you know him well after a short time.
I dont think one shall rush these things, it is better to give time...

And yes you are young, dont tell me we shall start thinking about ourselves as old at 25
كيف تحددين من هم زير نساء ؟ اي رجل لا يحب النساء عامة ؟ الا تعتقدين ان المراة تحكم على الرجل بانه زير نساء وبذلك تهرب من تلك العلاقات ، فبعد ان قراءت كل الموضوع والاجوبة ، استنتجبت ان الرجال يفضلون هكذا علاقات من النساء ، ربما لان المراة تعرف ان الرجل يكره كلمة "ارتباط" ولا اثارة للموضوع فيتصرفون كانهم في علاقة دون نهاية محددة ؟

ومن ثم ، ماذا تعنين بال "هو" ، علما بان الانسان يتطور ، هل يبقى هذا الاخير ال "هو" ؟

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lol u just made me laugh, i get your point, and i do agree with the fact that we are not dating assholes, but people sometimes becomes assholes. Time will tell like it will tell you if one day he will prupose to you or not.

Girls get the final decisions, they are the one who refuses or accept. only life will let you know if one day you will meet the one final one as you said. Sometimes people never get the chance to meet this special one, should they date date and date? I dont know, i cant answer that, but sometimes (at least for me) you get bored of dating dating and dating different people from one to another, thats why (for me again) i prefere not dating that much, i get bored from this kind of routine easylie. I prefere to meet someone if he seems decent and have the same values than me but then till when you will date this person, till when he will stay the bf without any other steps involved, i want children one day, i want to settle down, why would i stay years and years with someone who does know me but never sure if i am the right one after years of dating, he is obviously wasting my time and from that point i prefere being single, at least the single life is better than being with someone after years who is never sure what he wants in life. Do you get my point here.
هل المراة قادرة على الرفض او القبول ان احبت ؟ او انه في تلك المرحلة هذا ليس بحب انما هو احكام السيطرة ؟لم بعض النساء لا تتقبل ان تبقى دون صديق ؟ هل هذا دليل عدم نضوج ؟ ولم بعض الرجال لا يقبلون الخروج ضمن المجتمع دونن صديقة ، جميلة ن ذكية ، وغيرها من الامور ويفرض عليها ان تكون الوفية ولا يفكر بالارتباط ؟ لم تفرض عليه عدم الخيانة والاهتمام الدائم اذا لم تؤدي العلاقة الى حب وارتباط كذلك الامر ؟
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اذا ، قد لا يكون الحب اساس العلاقة ، انما هو التفاهم ؟
وكما فهمت ، هل ان العلاقات تلك هي نوع من اختبار وطريقة لانضاج المشاعر والافراد ، فالاجتكاك بالاخر يجعل الفرد انضج فيستطيع مع الوقت ، تولي مسؤولية العائلة ؟
you are right
the experience you get from your relations is very important, so you can understand people and ur partner better , and your choices will be better,

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why do you have a girl friend - boy friend?

- To feel what "I love you" means ... then what "I don't love you anymore" means

- To feel what "I miss you" means ... then what "I am not thinking about you anymore" means

- To stay awake all the night feeling happy thinking about the person we love .. then stay awake all the night sad, angry, crying, thinking about the same person we loved.

- To stop seeing any other person on earth because we are in love ... then stop seeing any other person on earth because we are depressed and we hate seeing the other gender.

- To wish him all God's blessings and pray to not being hurt... then wishing to hurt him or to slap him .

- To feel that we can forgive whatever he did... then feeling deeply hurt and unable to forgive.


- etc... etc.. etc


In brief it's an essential need for all of us, it's an great experience we all should live ... it's a combination of feelings that makes us mature and help us to grow .. barke some day we will be able to choose the right person

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why do you have a girl friend - boy friend?

- To feel what "I love you" means ... then what "I don't love you anymore" means

- To feel what "I miss you" means ... then what "I am not thinking about you anymore" means

- To stay awake all the night feeling happy thinking about the person we love .. then stay awake all the night sad, angry, crying, thinking about the same person we loved.

- To stop seeing any other person on earth because we are in love ... then stop seeing any other person on earth because we are depressed and we hate seeing the other gender.

- To wish him all God's blessings and pray to not being hurt... then wishing to hurt him or to slap him .

- To feel that we can forgive whatever he did... then feeling deeply hurt and unable to forgive.


- etc... etc.. etc


In brief it's an essential need for all of us, it's an great experience we all should live ... it's a combination of feelings that makes us mature and help us to grow .. barke some day we will be able to choose the right person

PS: Void ma daroure tsalle7le l english taba3e
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كيف تحددين من هم زير نساء ؟ اي رجل لا يحب النساء عامة ؟ الا تعتقدين ان المراة تحكم على الرجل بانه زير نساء وبذلك تهرب من تلك العلاقات ، فبعد ان قراءت كل الموضوع والاجوبة ، استنتجبت ان الرجال يفضلون هكذا علاقات من النساء ، ربما لان المراة تعرف ان الرجل يكره كلمة "ارتباط" ولا اثارة للموضوع فيتصرفون كانهم في علاقة دون نهاية محددة ؟

ومن ثم ، ماذا تعنين بال "هو" ، علما بان الانسان يتطور ، هل يبقى هذا الاخير ال "هو" ؟

I think you can easily tell a guy's intentions, or have a good idea about his personality after a short while or first discussion.
In case he is master of fooling and the girl is too naive, well then one has to be always cautious..

I didnt really get your question about "he" evolving..
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هل هناك من يخرج مع صديقة من اجل مالها او يخرج مع صديق من اجل ان يصرف عليها ؟
هل تتحول هذه العلاقة الى علاقة مادية ؟
هل هي علاقة ضهرنا " ودفعت عني بالنسبة للفتاة ، والرجل ضهررّنا بنت حلوي ؟
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