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but i don't care about that, cuz it doesn't apply to me.

u are talking about religious rebels turned atheists.

i'm talking about scientific ppl, ahla wou sahlah hehe
I just love it when atheists claim their monopoly over science. Science wouldn't exist hadn't it been for Islamic scholars. Muslim scientists do not turn atheists because there is no clash between Islam and science. As if religious people haven't been to schools! The preacher at our local mosque is a microbiology professor. If you're talking church then that's another story.

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it depends on who is looking, but ya, they don't have a god and it's more about living than obsessing about death, so ya u ca say it's more of a way of life hehe
Death is the only future you're certain of, so how can we not think about this beautiful future that awaits us? lol Whatever you do you're rotten in the end. But that doesn't mean you obsess about death. You just live a responsible rather than a careless life.

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shou hal kindergarten word logic? hehe
Why don't you Mr Phoenix explain what spiritual means? :D That's if you've thought about it.

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says u ;)

says u also ;)

the world is a big place, a bit of humility can get ppl far in life..
Says me yes of course. The never-ending line of divine Buddha makes sense? What about their temples and sacrifices? Why believe in Buddha and not in Jesus? As for atheism and spirituality, if you're spiritual that means you question the existence of a spirit, or no? What does spiritual mean?
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One of the reasons why people believe they are atheists isn't because they don't within themselves at least at times believe that there is a God, rather it's rebellion against laws they can't confine themselves to.

Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a way of life. Spiritual means spirit which means God. Buddhists don't know what they're on about. And atheism stops at matter, no spirituality whatsoever.
Wrong. Spirituality != god.
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There is No Monarchy in Islam, a King is basically considered a "Kaffer", there is No Clergy as well. The Prophet (saws) stated there is no rahbaniyya in Islam, meaning by rahbaniyya the monastic vows of perpetual celibacy, poverty, and solitariness. However, Islam promotes modesty (haya'), simple living (zuhd), and temporary retreat from the world (i`tikaf).
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Wrong. Spirituality != god.
God = Anything you worship and put your faith and hopes on, such as Cows, Money, Humans, Science...
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Islam Has Rules for everything, From Abolishing Racism to Anti-Consumerism...For example the Cola company wants you to buy a Cola so that you can be happy, Basically they need you to be sad in orderto acheive temporary happiness by buying a Cola, However a Muslim says L7amdulillah if he has one and if he doesn't he also says L7amdulillah, Spiritual peace Long lasting happiness unlike anything ephemeral. So Islam is an Ideological enemy of consumerism.
The Message is Peace and mercy.

And please don't start with Saudi or Iran, I don't care what they do.
hehe why not TS, whenever someone talks about islam as something perfect I always wonder about the practical examples we have, and these are far from perfect...

One thing is to dream about peace and human rights and another is to realize them...
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Very religious, not just religious :D The foundations of democracy were laid down by the Arabs 1400+ years ago, monarchies are an abomination to religion, and churches like monarchies were created for power over the weak needy and poor. When you talk God, you talk equality among humans; kings, queens, and gold plated clergy go in the bin.
by the greek to be specific and centuries before the the arabs, Islam and Christianity.
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Spirituality: to firstly believe that one possesess a spirit. And from that everything can ensue.
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hehe why not TS, whenever someone talks about islam as something perfect I always wonder about the practical examples we have, and these are far from perfect...

One thing is to dream about peace and human rights and another is to realize them...
We Struggle (Jihad) To realise them, And if peace and Justice were Easy To attain it wouldn't have been called a Struggle.
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Spirituality: to firstly believe that one possesess a spirit. And from that everything can ensue.
What Does Spirituality or mystisim have to do with this? God is different. Spirituality "Rou7aniyah" is a term christians often use.
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What Does Spirituality or mystisim have to do with this? God is different. Spirituality "Rou7aniyah" is a term christians often use.
So god isnt in the spiritual realm? He is something you can touch and feel and smell?
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