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Spiritual growth :


is the process of getting rid of wrong concepts, thoughts and beliefs about who we are and about the world in which we live. Through this process we increase our awareness of our true inner being, the true spirit that we are. It is a process of looking inside us, shedding our illusions and uncovering our true essence, which is always present, but hidden beyond the ego-personality.

- how many time we skip that chance cz of our ego?
- how many time we knew that our concept is false but yet we were so stubborn and tkamachna bel concept ... ?
- how many times we said im happy and after years we just crushed the bulbe saying OUCH i was living in a world of illusion , where their is O% or realistic though ya3ne , we have the "be as bas" of our life the DREAM .. tayeb when we did realize that this dream is no way real what was the reaction .. oh god ra7et my life? when you face that situation would you feel sorry about yourself yourlife the time .. or youll say okay akalta what's next!?
- why we are scared to take a look inside us ... are we scared of seing that we did bad stuff , ma 3a 2ases none be ghalet ?
- why we cant judge our self but yet we judge everyone .. ma ya 2ebne leave everyone be hamo and try to make a little effort improve your self ou chou badak bel 3alam ...
- ou khiteman : between this two method aya u adopt :

1 - improve yourself hek ull be the best
2- destroy everyone hek ull stay the only survivor

the final question :


Why should we be interested in spiritual growth? What are the signs that we are growing spiritually? What are the benefits?
How can one grow spiritually?
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Spiritual growth :


is the process of getting rid of wrong concepts, thoughts and beliefs about who we are and about the world in which we live. Through this process we increase our awareness of our true inner being, the true spirit that we are. It is a process of looking inside us, shedding our illusions and uncovering our true essence, which is always present, but hidden beyond the ego-personality.

- how many time we skip that chance cz of our ego?
- how many time we knew that our concept is false but yet we were so stubborn and tkamachna bel concept ... ?
- how many times we said im happy and after years we just crushed the bulbe saying OUCH i was living in a world of illusion , where their is O% or realistic though ya3ne , we have the "be as bas" of our life the DREAM .. tayeb when we did realize that this dream is no way real what was the reaction .. oh god ra7et my life? when you face that situation would you feel sorry about yourself yourlife the time .. or youll say okay akalta what's next!?
- why we are scared to take a look inside us ... are we scared of seing that we did bad stuff , ma 3a 2ases none be ghalet ?
- why we cant judge our self but yet we judge everyone .. ma ya 2ebne leave everyone be hamo and try to make a little effort improve your self ou chou badak bel 3alam ...
- ou khiteman : between this two method aya u adopt :

1 - improve yourself hek ull be the best
2- destroy everyone hek ull stay the only survivor

the final question :


Why should we be interested in spiritual growth? What are the signs that we are growing spiritually? What are the benefits?
How can one grow spiritually?
concerning me i don't judge no one so that not to be judged and i believe everyone has his own circumstances that he \she takes in life which might be wrong decision to take or good so why to judge others when we ourselves make mistakes.
i never did something cause was scared that i be judged i do what in my mind i believe it is right
nowadays peoplepeople overlook spiritual growth though i am against doing that cause in the end to have your good moral and deeds you should educate your kids to say there is God in the end and reflect well before making any step in life
i always try to improve myself not for the sake of people saying i am the best but for my self satisfaction i never care what or how people judge me i believe in who i am
i have skipped many chances in life but not due to my ego but at times you sacrifice for the sake of others
i f i am wrong i admit my mistake never hide behind it
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concerning me i don't judge no one so that not to be judged and i believe everyone has his own circumstances that he \she takes in life which might be wrong decision to take or good so why to judge others when we ourselves make mistakes.
i never did something cause was scared that i be judged i do what in my mind i believe it is right
nowadays peoplepeople overlook spiritual growth though i am against doing that cause in the end to have your good moral and deeds you should educate your kids to say there is God in the end and reflect well before making any step in life
i always try to improve myself not for the sake of people saying i am the best but for my self satisfaction i never care what or how people judge me i believe in who i am
i have skipped many chances in life but not due to my ego but at times you sacrifice for the sake of others
i f i am wrong i admit my mistake never hide behind it
if i may ask ... in your young ages you didnt judge ppl or u didnt observe them?
maybe now after long experience ur like this after knowing that judging ppl is not right cz ppl do not have 1 reaction and do not have 1 character they change 7asab the situation and the reality ...
u did not Looked around you and watch how people behave in various circumstances. Watch the people you meet at home, work, at the supermarket, on the bus, train and on the street. Watch and learn also from people interviewed on TV, and also from movies? its not kind of "judging" not the plenty meaning of the verb but part of it ?!


u did not Watched how people talk, walk and react, and how they are consequently treated by others.?and why they are treated like this way not another ? why they cant understand what they are affirming ? and how to apply what uve learnd on urself ?its not somehow a judgment ?
you did not Watched what happens when people get angry, restless and upset and what happens if they are calm and relaxed?

haven't you ever like what you see, analyze what and why you do not like it, and then analyze your own behavior to find out whether you behave in the same way.?

didnt you discover that you manifest some of these undesirable traits of character and behavior, affirm to yourself often, that every time you manifest these traits or behavior, you are going to be conscious and aware of them, and do your best to avoid them?


you didnt said once that that kind of ppl do not match with me ? hes good very good person but his character provoke me ?its not somehow a judgment or its a normal stuff ?
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if i may ask ... in your young ages you didnt judge ppl or u didnt observe them?
maybe now after long experience ur like this after knowing that judging ppl is not right cz ppl do not have 1 reaction and do not have 1 character they change 7asab the situation and the reality ...
u did not Looked around you and watch how people behave in various circumstances. Watch the people you meet at home, work, at the supermarket, on the bus, train and on the street. Watch and learn also from people interviewed on TV, and also from movies? its not kind of "judging" not the plenty meaning of the verb but part of it ?!


u did not Watched how people talk, walk and react, and how they are consequently treated by others.?and why they are treated like this way not another ? why they cant understand what they are affirming ? and how to apply what uve learnd on urself ?its not somehow a judgment ?
you did not Watched what happens when people get angry, restless and upset and what happens if they are calm and relaxed?

haven't you ever like what you see, analyze what and why you do not like it, and then analyze your own behavior to find out whether you behave in the same way.?

didnt you discover that you manifest some of these undesirable traits of character and behavior, affirm to yourself often, that every time you manifest these traits or behavior, you are going to be conscious and aware of them, and do your best to avoid them?


you didnt said once that that kind of ppl do not match with me ? hes good very good person but his character provoke me ?its not somehow a judgment or its a normal stuff ?
omerous i don't really remember my youth as there was always war but you are right people differ in character and behavior specially nowadays maybe due to the war youngsters lost their value for self esteeme they donno how to behave whats right whats wrong i don't blame their parents over that cause poor parents their only goal was to protect their kids from bombs or something else and i think that technology taught kids lots of agressiveness misbehavior yet yes people tend to be more violent nowadays dont count to ten they critisize things cause they learned the value of nothing.they got things easily .they judge people cause they dont judge themselves cause they think its a normal reaction when angry.
the one who provokes me i just turn my back and walk away believe me no one is worthy u being angry.
i do analyze behaviour but i dont really blame no one for he or she is as i think behind each person there is a character those who just react others over react some are neutral so i think i am not the one to judge others
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Very interesting, Omeros.

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Why should we be interested in spiritual growth? What are the signs that we are growing spiritually? What are the benefits?
How can one grow spiritually?
We should be interested in "spirtual growth" (personally I prefer to call it personal growth) because it's a way to get rid of negativity in general, negative feelings about ourselves and about others, and in a way is a road to "peace of mind" and to positivity. The signs are when we're comfortable with ourselves, the bad and the good, when one acknowledges the bad sides and tries to work on them or at least accept them, and most importantly when we become less negative to other people. By negativity I mean jealousy, spite, hatred, arrogance and even anger..etc. These are all "negative" feelings and states of mind in my opinion and they obstruct one's peace of mind.

How can one grow spiritually? Well obviously that's a very hard question to answer, but introversion is the first obvious step that one should take. Examining what is exactly bothering in him/herself and in other people and try to see how can he work on those issues.
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