Should society be responsible of irresponsible adults mistakes?

[Aounist05]

This is more of a philosophical issue than a practical one.
However I am always intrigued by the following question:
Should the society be responsible of helping adults when they harm themselves even after they are clearly warned ???!!!!

For example, should an amount of money be taken from taxes to help people who are infected by AIDS or other types of severe STDs because they made unprotected sex and with multiple partners?????

Should the society be responsible of treating people who harmed themselves becuase of a car accident after driving drunk and at high speed.

There are also plenty of other cases...

Putting the question of compassion aside (coz we all feel pity for these people), why should anyone pays taxes for treatment of irresponsible adults???
Isn't better that these amount of money be converged towards other domains like helping children with cancer, handicaps, etc etc...

[CPL]

Originally Posted by Aounist05

This is more of a philosophical issue than a practical one.
However I am always intrigued by the following question:
Should the society be responsible of helping adults when they harm themselves even after they are clearly warned ???!!!!

For example, should an amount of money be taken from taxes to help people who are infected by AIDS or other types of severe STDs because they made unprotected sex and with multiple partners?????

Should the society be responsible of treating people who harmed themselves becuase of a car accident after driving drunk and at high speed.

There are also plenty of other cases...

Putting the question of compassion aside (coz we all feel pity for these people), why should anyone pays taxes for treatment of irresponsible adults???
Isn't better that these amount of money be converged towards other domains like helping children with cancer, handicaps, etc etc...

You are assuming that those adults are fully aware of the consequences. Honestly I don't think anyone who is fully aware of the consequences would commit the act.

There are alot of reasons for not being aware, one of which is lack of proper civic & social education.

Helping others is always necessary, because at any time, if ever i mess up something, i would like others to help me as well.

[Order]

Originally Posted by Aounist05

This is more of a philosophical issue than a practical one.
However I am always intrigued by the following question:
Should the society be responsible of helping adults when they harm themselves even after they are clearly warned ???!!!!

For example, should an amount of money be taken from taxes to help people who are infected by AIDS or other types of severe STDs because they made unprotected sex and with multiple partners?????

Should the society be responsible of treating people who harmed themselves becuase of a car accident after driving drunk and at high speed.

There are also plenty of other cases...

Putting the question of compassion aside (coz we all feel pity for these people), why should anyone pays taxes for treatment of irresponsible adults???
Isn't better that these amount of money be converged towards other domains like helping children with cancer, handicaps, etc etc...

you can get infected with aids while having sex with one other infected partner. it's not a condition to have sex with multiple partner to get infected with AIDS. what about the children of those who are infected with aids?? what is their fault ??
and do you think that all of them are warned about it.??
look at africa ano where their is the biggest number of infected people do you really think that they were aware of the AIDS problem ?.
and thanks to your taxes new treatments have been discovered and now it's possible to cure children infected with aids aren't you happy with that

and as you want to deal with the question on a philosophical level
for the ones who believe in GoD would you like him to just help the real believers and let down the ones who lost their way ?? though he warned themand showed them the right way :)
and in religions they say help the others they don't put conditions help the others who are good ...


don't forget the fact that they did those mistakes means that they are lost and that they need help not just the help to cure them from their deceases.

ano if i go into your logic then why should we have prisons
it's a waist of taxes, let's hang them all and like this we do some economy :)

WE should be tolerant with others as others should be tolerant with us cause we are All brothers in humanity

[coralie]

well those adults were born from the womb our societies and i will prefer to see that my taxes go to help those ppl then see my taxes going into the pockets of thieves (politicians) or to invent more deadly weapons under the banner of self deffence while the weapons are always used, and we are witnessing this in our current life, to bring death , misery, pain and hatred .
yes why should nt societies be responsable do you prefer to see your taxes use to kill ppl or to save them ? knowing that you only talked about "irresponsable" adults with problems well taxes that goes to weaponery can save lives a lot of lives and i think the adults who are "responsable" for taxes are not doing a good job not even concerning the drunks the HIV not even for cancer or any other social issues ... what about health insurances for normal ppl ? what about the elder who do not have proper Homes, what about the SDF (sans domicile fixe) , what about the orphins ? yes our society is and should be responsable for its citizens what ever they are my they be irresponsable or responsable we should help them .
by the way an HIV person can be very responsable but a mistake (medical or else) made him/her get the HIV should we throw them out and let them die ?

[Aounist05]

Guys you really missed the point. One told me about infected children, other about accidents...
The preposition is very clear:
Should the society be responsible of helping adults when they harm themselves even after they are clearly warned ???!!!!

I am excluding the harm coming from ignorance, I am excluding children, and I am including ONLY ADULTS WHO ARE AWARE OF THE DANGER BUT DO NOT TAKE ANY PRECAUTION.

Here's a more expressive example, I know a friend whom his father have health problem and the doctor strictly forbids him from smoking. However the guy didn't comply! To make the story short, he ended in the hospital with a severe condition and costing his family a fortune. You may say that his family is obliged to help him and this is true, however taking it to the general level.
What do you think if your taxes are going to treat such neglecting and irresponsible people, instead of going to help sick children.

Another example from Kalam EL Nas, one guy said he was infected by AIDS because he was drunk made an unprotected orgy, although he was aware of the danger! Is this a responsible act ?! Should the society be responsible of his inability to retain his instincts????

This is the MAIN SUBJECT of the thread.
Do we have a responsibility towards people who are fully aware of the danger but do not retain themselves ????