advanced search
Contact Us tayyar.org
 
The Orange Room - forum.tayyar.org
 



Notices
Self Improvement Health, Fitness, Diet, Exercise, Religion, Meditation, Beauty, & Attire. In addition to seeking advice on how to deal with social, psychological, and physiological issues.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  (#1 (permalink)) Old
Registered Member
 
amalhope's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 72
Thanks: 7
Thanked 22 Times in 11 Posts
Last Online: 1 Week Ago
Join Date: Sat Nov 2008
View amalhope's Photo Album
Icon9 She covered it all up.. مشكلة التحرّش في الشوارع - 3 Weeks Ago

First, she was in a knee-length, sleeveless dress.

Then she wore pants and a half-sleeve shirt.

Then she wore a scarf on her head and a long, black, loose gown.

Then she covered her face but let her eyes show.

Then she covered her whole face.

Then she decided to stay home.

Watch this clip to understand why she did all this:



لو كان عدم الحجاب أو "التبرّج" أو لبس المحجبات الضيّق هو سبب مشكلة التحرّش في الدول العربية كما يقول البعض، فلماذا إذاً التحرش ليس مشكلة إجتماعية في أوروبا وكندا وأميركا حيث أغلبية النساء غير محجبات بل ومتحررات جداً جداً بلباسهن والرجال معظمهم من غير المسلمين؟ ولماذا مشكلة التحرّش أقوى بكثير في بلدان عربية محافطة كمصر من بلدان عربية "متحررة" نسبياً كلبنان مثلاً؟

جزء من الحل هو مساءلة المتحرشين وتهذيبهم، بدلاً من أن نرمي الملامة على المرأة التي تكون الضحية غالباً في هذه الحالات. ولو حتى كان الحجاب هو الحل لهذه المشكلة (رغم أنه بُرهن عكس ذلك) فلا يحق لبعض المتدينين أن يطلبوا من المسلمين الغير متدينين ومن المسيحيين الحجاب! هذا ينافي مبدأ الحريات الشخصية

مشكلة التحرّش في الدول العربية تتعلق بإستغلال لسلطة الرجل وعدم محاسبته وتكريس مفهوم أن المرأة عبارة عن جسد وعدم إحترامها وعدم معاملتها كإنسانة وشريكة حياة (عاملة كانت أم مربيّة أجيال في المنزل)، وهذا يظهر في الكثير من الأغاني والأفلام والكتابات والمنتديات في يومنا هذا للأسف
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to amalhope For This Useful Post:
KingNothing (2 Weeks Ago)
Sponsored Links
  (#2 (permalink)) Old
 
Dalzi's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 8,072
Thanks: 834
Thanked 855 Times in 680 Posts
Last Online: 5 Hours Ago
Join Date: Tue Oct 2006
View Dalzi's Photo Album
Default 2 Weeks Ago

That video's hilarious! :D Hai2to ma byemshe 2ella bilkhabeet :D

I think it's genes and ignorance The worst are Indians Arabs and Mexicans.
Reply With Quote
  (#3 (permalink)) Old
Registered Member
 
Salome's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 2,111
Thanks: 850
Thanked 309 Times in 260 Posts
Last Online: 10 Hours Ago
Join Date: Sun Feb 2008
View Salome's Photo Album
Default 2 Weeks Ago

The viedo is not working, or is it just by me?
Reply With Quote
  (#4 (permalink)) Old
Registered Member
 
michom's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 138
Thanks: 10
Thanked 25 Times in 21 Posts
Last Online: 16 Hours Ago
Join Date: Wed Jul 2006
View michom's Photo Album
Default 2 Weeks Ago

The video is working... you know I moved to Beirut a year ago and I learned my lesson that wherever you are and however lost you are, never ever stop by a girl to ask for directions. inno machouna, I just need to know my way, mich daroure tettala3e w tdallik mechye I am asking politely! sarit khasle whenever some guy stops to ask a girl something, befakro 3am byet7ashar fiya!!! even though when you stop so some pedestrian can pass, when it is a girl she walks so slowly looking high the other side and never says thank you, she doesn't even look, l 3ama shou khedem bayik atta3ik 3al tari2? what is going wrong with people in Beirut? this reminds me why I appreciate the city I live, where people are friendly to say the least...

off topic?
Reply With Quote
  (#5 (permalink)) Old
Registered Member
 
Salome's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 2,111
Thanks: 850
Thanked 309 Times in 260 Posts
Last Online: 10 Hours Ago
Join Date: Sun Feb 2008
View Salome's Photo Album
Default 2 Weeks Ago

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalzi View Post
I think it's genes and ignorance The worst are Indians Arabs and Mexicans.
Mexicans?? why?

Anyway this video portreys the lack of respect toward women, it's a pity that women would need to wear all black from head to toe to gain some respect in the society. What kind of society is that??

However such individual ignorants exist everywhere regardless of cultures. The reaction I don't think it should be to dress up like ninjas however it might have a scary effect.

I pity those women who are forced to wear burqa but pity those more who choose to wear it.

/just a personal note, here I never saw such pretty girls wearing burqa, all are old and fat...hmm makes me wonder/
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Salome For This Useful Post:
shreek (2 Weeks Ago)
  (#6 (permalink)) Old
 
Dalzi's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 8,072
Thanks: 834
Thanked 855 Times in 680 Posts
Last Online: 5 Hours Ago
Join Date: Tue Oct 2006
View Dalzi's Photo Album
Default 2 Weeks Ago

Quote:
Originally Posted by Salome View Post
Mexicans?? why?
Coz they're perverts.

Quote:
Anyway this video portreys the lack of respect toward women, it's a pity that women would need to wear all black from head to toe to gain some respect in the society. What kind of society is that??
The video shows the total opposite of what you just said. Even if she covers herself, he's still gonna find a suitable 'latshe' lol Hilarious video...

Quote:
However such individual ignorants exist everywhere regardless of cultures. The reaction I don't think it should be to dress up like ninjas however it might have a scary effect.

I pity those women who are forced to wear burqa but pity those more who choose to wear it.
They are free to wear whatever they like, it's their culture.

Quote:
/just a personal note, here I never saw such pretty girls wearing burqa, all are old and fat...hmm makes me wonder/
You're very unlucky to have had that experience lol Are you trying to say that all Muslims who cover themselves are ugly? Boy you're delusional.
Reply With Quote
  (#7 (permalink)) Old
Registered Member
 
Salome's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 2,111
Thanks: 850
Thanked 309 Times in 260 Posts
Last Online: 10 Hours Ago
Join Date: Sun Feb 2008
View Salome's Photo Album
Default 2 Weeks Ago

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalzi View Post
Coz they're perverts.
Really? All of them? Poor mexicans, maybe you met some low lifes, but to say that all of them??

Quote:
The video shows the total opposite of what you just said. Even if she covers herself, he's still gonna find a suitable 'latshe' lol Hilarious video...
yep I got that in the video, however the common argument for covering up is not that they want to hide away the woman's beauty from peering eyes of the men?? I think those men who came up with these laws must be quite paranoid and frustrated


Quote:
They are free to wear whatever they like, it's their culture.
Sure and how lucky they are to live in such a free society where they can practice their religion freely and wear whatever they want...


Quote:
You're very unlucky to have had that experience lol Are you trying to say that all Muslims who cover themselves are ugly? Boy you're delusional.
first am no Boy:D

and I don't know if I am lucky or unlucky you know I don't care that much...am just telling you what I see here everyday in the heart of Europe...never seen a woman here in burqa who would have been pretty..of course we have pretty muslim girls here, but they don't cover themselves up, or maximum a hijab...isn't that funny, makes me wonder here burqa has other meaning than protecting beauty:D
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Salome For This Useful Post:
shreek (2 Weeks Ago)
  (#8 (permalink)) Old
 
Dalzi's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 8,072
Thanks: 834
Thanked 855 Times in 680 Posts
Last Online: 5 Hours Ago
Join Date: Tue Oct 2006
View Dalzi's Photo Album
Default 2 Weeks Ago

Quote:
Originally Posted by Salome View Post
Really? All of them? Poor mexicans, maybe you met some low lifes, but to say that all of them??

yep I got that in the video, however the common argument for covering up is not that they want to hide away the woman's beauty from peering eyes of the men?? I think those men who came up with these laws must be quite paranoid and frustrated.

Sure and how lucky they are to live in such a free society where they can practice their religion freely and wear whatever they want...

first am no Boy:D

and I don't know if I am lucky or unlucky you know I don't care that much...am just telling you what I see here everyday in the heart of Europe...never seen a woman here in burqa who would have been pretty..of course we have pretty muslim girls here, but they don't cover themselves up, or maximum a hijab...isn't that funny, makes me wonder here burqa has other meaning than protecting beauty:D
Salome we're not talking about the hijab or burqa3 or nappy or anything humans wear here, we're talking about the behaviour of men who'd die if they don't throw a few pathetic comments, and how this has nothing to do with the way a woman is dressed.

Let's not divert from the topic.
Reply With Quote
  (#9 (permalink)) Old
Registered Member
 
Salome's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 2,111
Thanks: 850
Thanked 309 Times in 260 Posts
Last Online: 10 Hours Ago
Join Date: Sun Feb 2008
View Salome's Photo Album
Default 2 Weeks Ago

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalzi View Post
Salome we're not talking about the hijab or burqa3 or nappy or anything humans wear here, we're talking about the behaviour of men who'd die if they don't throw a few pathetic comments, and how this has nothing to do with the way a woman is dressed.

Let's not divert from the topic.
Some men surely, those ignorant idiots exist everywhere, just gave my opinion that this shouldn't be the reason that a woman goes to extreme in covering up. /as you noted the video points this out as well/
Reply With Quote
  (#10 (permalink)) Old
Orange Room Supporter
 
BOILER's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 7,664
Thanks: 5
Thanked 495 Times in 335 Posts
Last Online: 1 Day Ago
Join Date: Sun Jan 2006
View BOILER's Photo Album
Default 2 Weeks Ago

Lets' talk about what's happening in Egypt.
Men used to marry early, and now due to the economical circumstances, they're not.
The beast is unleashed.
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Orange Room - forum.tayyar.org FPM Community Forums Self Improvement

Tags
and#, covered


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump

Forums Directory