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As for your question Stella, why is it normal for men while hard for women, well it is mostly because of society norms, again the whole problem revolves around the fact that most societies are patriarchal thus conservative when it comes to women freedom, in liberal societies that have equality, you do not experience such prejudice.
Well society and norms can play a big role in it true, however it might not be tracked back to this reason only. Anybody knows about its psychological background? As men and women functionate differently concerning emotions, it may well have other reasons too.



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You start off by saying to avoid generalization and you end off by doing just that.

You say that to men it's not big deal, and wonder why. Well, you might as well keep on wondering, because there is no answer to such a question.

Generalization, as you may be aware, doesn't get you anywhere. This is more of a personal level. Men and women can have sex without getting attached nor have any feelings. It's not something that men have where women lack.

I'm afraid you're going into this thread with some thoughts that you're already convinced of, and not really wanting to hear what other people have to say about the idea, both men and women. 3 pages later, and you're asking why men don't have any feelings and are animals, whereas poor little girls can't but feel for the guy and end up getting hurt.

Sex is for all genders, and believe you me, the one nighters are for both guys and girls, or else we'd be having a gay epidemic.
If I were so convinced then I wouldnt have opened this thread in first place, dont you think so?
Sure, I have my own ideas about the issue, and as far as I know I can express them freely, right?

Furthermore we have you here to remind us always when we slip into generalizations, good at least you are always objective and proper.

But show me where I have said exactly that men are animals! Otherwise dont put words into my mouth!
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Well society and norms can play a big role in it true, however it might not be tracked back to this reason only. Anybody knows about its psychological background? As men and women functionate differently concerning emotions, it may well have other reasons too.
Well in my opinion, society and norms are the only role there is. I have no idea concerning what you claim as men and women function differently in terms of emotions. I doubt its truth.

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And I have just a guess, that women suffer from it more, bc they are more emotional than men anyway.
I was reading the thread again and I found this, now I think this is a sexist statement
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Well in my opinion, society and norms are the only role there is. I have no idea concerning what you claim as men and women function differently in terms of emotions. I doubt its truth.
I am sure there are researches on this, well I will look into it.

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I was reading the thread again and I found this, now I think this is a sexist statement
Sure that doesnt stand in every case, bad bad generalizations:P:D
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we are talking about others sexual lives and this is totaly diffrent .
when we talk about the subject on personal level i think the subject will have more meaning ..
now as we deal with this matter we are generalising and take it all as a whole package and this is wrong of course there is a diffrence between men and women concerning this kind of " one night stand" . there will always be some men who will refuse it a small very smal minority but the majority will go for it it is well known and we all know it is the case ... while for women it is diffrent the majority of women cant simply go into this kind of one night sex only and then bye bye thing without feelings and the majority of women value and keep it a sacred relation now of course ,there is always exeptions and some will do it just to fulfill a sexual need , nevertheless it is not what woman in general apreciate the most, while man do not have any problem with it .

now i am i for it or against it? personaly i am not for it and unless i am in love and i mean IN LOVE with the person i cant give him what is most precious for me . so the one night stant is not my thing . i do not judge others who do it because i think that every one has the right to do what ever they feel happy with . i heard once a woman saying "one night ? fine with me i live the moment deeply and happily tomorow is another day" .... i was shocked because i do not believe or think like her for me a relation as intimate as this should involve feelings and lots of romantisme and what goes with it ... but if she is ok with it let it be ... as i said before live and let live .
i dont want to be sexist but woman in most of the cases are diffrent from the man and think diffrently when it comes to this kind of sexual relation .

for me it will never be called having sex but making love is more what i would like to call it . and there reside all the diffrence
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we are talking about others sexual lives and this is totaly diffrent .
when we talk about the subject on personal level i think the subject will have more meaning ..
now as we deal with this matter we are generalising and take it all as a whole package and this is wrong of course there is a diffrence between men and women concerning this kind of " one night stand" . there will always be some men who will refuse it a small very smal minority but the majority will go for it it is well known and we all know it is the case ... while for women it is diffrent the majority of women cant simply go into this kind of one night sex only aand theen bye bye thing without feelings and the majority value and keep it a sacred relation now of course ,there is always exeptions and some will do it just to fulfill a sexual need , nevertheless it is not what woman in general apreciate the most, while man do not have any problem with it .

now i am i for it or against it? personaly i am not for it and unless i am in love and i mean IN LOVE with the person i cant give him what is most precious for me . so the one night stant is not my thing . i do not judge others who do it because i think that every one has the right to do what ever they feel happy with . i heard once a woman saying "one night ? fine with me i live the moment deeply and happily tomorow is another day" .... i was shocked because i do not believe or think like her for me a relation as intimate as this should involve feelings and lots of romantisme and what goes with it ... but if she is ok with it let it be ... as i said before live and let live .
i dont want to be sexist but woman in most of the cases are diffrent from the man and think diffrently when it comes to this kind of sexual relation .

for me it will never be called having sex but making love is more what i would like to call it . and there reside all the diffrence

You are right Coralie, there was a lot of generalization here, I try to avoid it but its not always successful. And certainly there are those cliches imprinted into public opinion which make harder not to generalize.
But then everybody can give their opinions how they see it personally.

Thanks for mentioning the difference between sex and love making!

I can not accept the idea of one night stand neither, as how could I make love to a totally stranger, whom I wont see never after, and to whom I don’t have any feelings.
And no not because of any religious constrains, or social norm or whatever, simply because I wouldn’t feel comfortable that way. And doesn’t have the urge at all to try it.

So as suggested we can move to a personal level, so that everybody can give their personal opinions why they accept it, or why they reject it. And you can consider my "lots of questions" too posted in the beginning of the thread:)
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you never tried Love mayb this explain your attitude to some extend ... but does nt explain your attitude and your lack of respect toward the female gender treating her as you do .

honesty also can be presented with flowers and gifts out of certain respect let us say ... i will prefer if i have to choose a one night stand with a man who offers me flowers a nice romantic diner to a man that say lets do it ... see what i mean? ... honesty can be the manner a respectfull man use to get what he wants with a plus : a nice gesture ...i dont think this will hurt him to be nice will it ?... i think this too is not one of your strong points .. honesty while wanting to mate just mate is not honesty it is in my opinion something else ... pffffff if this is honesty ! how honest is the monkeys then or the zoo or all jungle world !
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Dream33,

One night stands may be percieved as acceptable based upon mutual consent, and certainly not so, via deception of one or the other. All humans (women included) have feelings which should be considered and respected. It takes both the man and the woman to ensure a successfull reproduction of a human being, thus, both are equal in every respect.

Furthermore, honesty sometimes can expose a persons level of ignorance without consideration for fellow human beings. A man with self respect would certainly conjure a more subtle manner in which to present his preferences. The perception of women currently illustrated by certain "so called men", is of a primitive and below human standard, thus, there are specific paradise parks for such men, known in todays world as Animal Grazing Farms. Here these type of men may find enough sheep to fully satisfy their desires.
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I heard this long time ago and made me laugh so much, so I would like to share it with you in this thread.

Women & Men! Love & Sex!
Women love to love, Men love to have sex!
Women love to love so much, that they are ready to do anything for love, they will even have sex with you!
Men love sex so much, that they are ready to do anything for sex, they will even love you!
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My opinion is Live and Let Live...
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I heard this long time ago and made me laugh so much, so I would like to share it with you in this thread.

Women & Men! Love & Sex!
Women love to love, Men love to have sex!
Women love to love so much, that they are ready to do anything for love, they will even have sex with you!
Men love sex so much, that they are ready to do anything for sex, they will even love you!
As long as both are able to love and having sex , the act will become Making Love and this is GREAT .
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