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To understand Noah’s flood, we first have to understand why God sent the flood. God sent the flood because of the fallen angels that left heaven and came to earth to have children with the daughters or descendants of Adam & Eve. The offspring of this union were the Nephilim. This was an attempt by Satan to pollute the bloodline of Adam & Eve which is the same bloodline that Jesus came from as stated in Luke 3:23-38. "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day." Jude 1:6 "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." Genesis 6:1-4
The word men=adamah in verse one and is singular with the article & particle and refers to the man Adam (not mankind generally speaking) and them refers to Adam & Eve as in Genesis 5:2. Therefore, the flood was limited to the area of the Adamic people only, and not all the races of the Creation. The sons of God are angels that were with God in heaven. They left heaven and came to earth. Also, the primitive root for the word giants in Hebrew is naphal and means to fall. These nephilim or fallen ones are the offspring of the fallen angels and the daughters of Adam & Eve. This started happening before Noah's time and lead right up to the flood. The phrase and also after that tells us that Satan tried this again at a later time after the flood. The second time they were smaller in number and covered an even smaller area. Mighty is the Hebrew word gibbor and means powerful; by implication, warrior, tyrant. I believe that some of these characters somehow found their way into Greek mythology and were morphed and exaggerated into the Greek heroes by the writers. The fallen angels knew things that no one else on earth did. They were being lead by Satan and he is very wise but misleading. "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD." Genesis 6:5-8
Noah's flood was not on a global scale. The reason being is why God sent the flood in the first place. He wanted to put an end to the mix of the fallen angels with the daughters of Adam & Eve. It was only those women that Satan was after and they were still confined to a small area on the earth at that time because God had not scattered Israel yet. Satan really did not care about the rest of the people on the earth yet, as his main goal was to stop the birth of Christ, our Savior. All flesh was to be destroyed from the earth=h'adameth, ground; meaning the flood was limited to the geographical area or ground of Adam & Eve's descendants, except for the ones on the ark. The Bible is about Adam & Eve and their descendants, the last one being Jesus Christ, and the people that they came in contact with. I know that there is much more to the Bible than that, but that is how the story unfolds. | | | | | Registered Member
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Or maybe simply because it was the end of the last Ice Age, and the ice melted into water. | | | |
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Originally Posted by CPL Or maybe simply because it was the end of the last Ice Age, and the ice melted into water. | This event took place after the last major ice age, but God does use nature to work miracles and disasters. | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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what's common between Noah's flood, santa clause, easter bunny, and the werewolf?
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Originally Posted by kappa273 what's common between Noah's flood, santa clause, easter bunny, and the werewolf? | What is common is that they are symbolic.
Gaius Julius, Ice Ages followed by hot environment happen periodically, it's not a one time event.
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So I don't think it's a godly decision to end the last ice age and start a flood, but rather it's a regular thing that happens over and over. | | | |
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Originally Posted by CPL What is common is that they are symbolic.
Gaius Julius, Ice Ages followed by hot environment happen periodically, it's not a one time event.
Notice the pattern:
So I don't think it's a godly decision to end the last ice age and start a flood, but rather it's a regular thing that happens over and over. | A Christian believes God is nature, and I said God uses geological events to work miracles and disasters, as in the 10 plagues of Egypt. I didn't say it was the melting of ice, maybe it could have been, but I was just saying that God is supernatural, which simply means more natural than us and is able to work disasters through the natural occuring cycle of geological events. Quote:
Originally Posted by kappa273 what's common between Noah's flood, santa clause, easter bunny, and the werewolf? | None of the abovementioned are in the Bible. Anyway, as for the naphal, they were here in the flesh form. We were all once in the spirtual form, but after Satan's rebellion took place God placed us in this corruptible body; the flesh is a piece of dirt and that's why it goes back to dust in the ground when it expires and the soul returns to the Father who gave it. This is biblical, so if a Christian believes that he was created by God in the spirtual body and was later formed in the flesh, then he shouldn't have any trouble believing that the fallen angels came to earth in a flesh body to pollute the bloodline of Adam & Eve. | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by CPL Or maybe simply because it was the end of the last Ice Age, and the ice melted into water. | Or maybe it is just another myth like Adam's Peak, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Phoenix.. etc.. | | | |
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One point I would like to clarify, Noah did not find grace with God because he was not sinning, but for the fact that he and his family did not mix with the nephilim. That way the seed line of Adam would stay pure and Christ could be born from it. "These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God." Genesis 6:9
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Show me the exact date of the flood according to the Bible. If you cant give me the date, then accept some reasonable explanations. And accept that the Bible is the collection of the wisedom of the human mankind in a specific area in a specific time. Surely it is coming from God, but written on a language which was meant to be in that era, for those people + it is strictly symbolic. | | | |
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Originally Posted by Stella Show me the exact date of the flood according to the Bible. If you cant give me the date, then accept some reasonable explanations. And accept that the Bible is the collection of the wisedom of the human mankind in a specific area in a specific time. Surely it is coming from God, but written on a language which was meant to be in that era, for those people + it is strictly symbolic. | I believe it happened sometime around 2348 BC. | | | |  | | |
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