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Judah is one of the twelve tribes of Israel. A common misconception among Christians is that Israel is the tribe of Judah. As documented in the Bible, Israel consists of twelve tribes, and Judah, which is modern day Israel, is only 1/12 of Israel. The other tribes emigrated north of the caucasus mountains and spread from there, they are of Israel too. The tribes of Israel were all selected for a unique purpose to bring God's message into this world. God loves all his creation as documented in Genesis 1:32, but the tribes of Israel from the bloodline of Adam & Eve were put on earth to bring God's living word Yeshua into the world and to serve specific tasks. Judah has it's own unique task, they believe in the Messiah, the son of God, but they don't believe that he already came in the flesh, but are still awaiting his coming, which for Christians is the second coming. Nonetheless, they believe in the Messiah. The Jews did not kill Jesus as some churches or revolving revs like to claim, but the Kenites had posed as Judah, as they do in other tribes as well. I recommend the parable of the fig tree, as well as other sources in the Bible, which concern the establishment of Judah as a nation, we know it now as the great year of 1948AD, and we are living now in the last generations.

Ezekiel 37 and Romans 11 speaks of the reunification of the house of Israel and Judah. In the Genealogy of Mary mother of Jesus, her father was from the tribe of Judah, were the kings came from and her mother from the tribe of Levi, were the priests came from. Jesus was the king of kings and priest of priests. Check also the Church of Smyrna Revelation 2:8-11 and the Church of Philadelphia Revelation 3:7-13 on the Jews and Kenites, ofcourse the other churches failed. The Jews are not to be mixed up with the Kenites, which are spoken of in more detail in John 8:42-47 and Genesis 49:1-28. Furthermore, Jesus recognizes and praises the prophets of the old testament, and David literally prophesizes the coming of Jesus word for word in Psalm 22.

In Genesis 48 Joseph brought his two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh to his father Israel for a blessing. What Israel did was adopt them by putting his name on the sons of Joseph. So from that time on, Ephraim and Manasseh were part of the children of Israel. Also part of the blessing Israel gave to the sons of Joseph is that Manasseh would become a great nation and Ephraim would be a company of nations. Does this sound like what most people call the nation of Israel today?

The word Jew is used ten times in the Old Testament and each time the same Hebrew word is used. Lets take a look at the definition of Jew from the orginal Hebrew.

Jew=Yehuwdiy (yeh-hoo-dee'); a Jehudite (i.e. Judaite or Jew), or descendant of Jehudah (i.e. Judah).
Yehuwdah (yeh-hoo-daw'); celebrated; Jehudah (or Judah), the name of five Israelites; also of the tribe descended from the first, and of its territory.

In the New Testament the word Jew is used twenty two times and each time the same Greek word is used. Lets take a look at the definition of Jew from the original Greek.

Jew=Ioudaios (ee-oo-dah'-yos); Judaean, i.e. belonging to Jehudah.
Ioudas (ee-oo-das'); of Hebrew origin; Judas (i.e. Jehudah), the name of ten Israelites; also of the posterity of one of them and its region.

So we see that people that have Jewish blood in them are descended from Judah. Israel's son, Judah, was the first Jewish person in the Bible.

So now you might be wondering what does this mean? What this means is that there are millions of people on earth today that have absolutely no idea that they are the true children of Israel. The Jewish people are only a part of the children of Israel, not all of them. Well if the Jewish people are only part of the children of Israel, where are the rest of them? To answer that question, I'll ask another question. Which nations on earth today are the most blessed? The Christian nations. Remember the blessing that Israel gave to Ephraim, one of Joseph's sons, that he would become a company of nations? Ephraim today is better known as Great Britain. What about Joseph's other son, Manasseh? In the blessing that Israel gave Manasseh, he said that Manasseh would become a great nation. Let me ask you this, which Christian nation is more blessed than any other? The United States of America. Manasseh is better know as the United States of America toady. Don't think for one minute that it is an accident that America is so blessed by Almighty God. Regardless of what some people would want you to believe, the United States of America is one nation under God and we always will be. People from every single tribe of the children of Israel live in the United States today. That is why the United States of America is more blessed by Almighty God than any other nation on earth today.

We also have to remember that God loves all his children, whether they are of Israel, Gentiles and even Kenites can enter the kingdom of Heaven, which is documented all over the Bible. But, I wanted to clarify the falsehoods about Jews in this thread.
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i dont agree with you .. USA is certainly not the most blessed country in the world ... there is no such thing as the most blessed country ....

I think the place that will always have a divine protection or meaning is Jerusalem ... certainly this land is much more blessed than chicago.
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i dont agree with you .. USA is certainly not the most blessed country in the world ... there is no such thing as the most blessed country ....

I think the place that will always have a divine protection or meaning is Jerusalem ... certainly this land is much more blessed than chicago.
How is it not the most blessed?? There is no such thing only if you're blind and refuse to see the truth. Facts are facts.
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as for the dubject of this thread .

remember where the noahs arch landed , and where the caucasians were spread from ? i believe that those are the blessed ones .

modern day israelits are devided into 2 , ashkanazi and severdim . ( eastern and western ) the eastern ones who live in some arabians countries and Iran are against Israel ( well , they claim to be ) but afterall , who can believe them :D
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modern day israelits are devided into 2 , ashkanazi and severdim . ( eastern and western ) the eastern ones who live in some arabians countries and Iran are against Israel ( well , they claim to be ) but afterall , who can believe them :D
Ashkenazi Jews don't live in Arabian countries, they live in Germany and Eastern Europe.

By the way, the Ashkenazi Jews are the smartest people in the world, they score the most in IQ tests. Albert Einstein, Karl Marx and Sigmund Freud were Ashkenazi Jews.
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modern day israelits are devided into 2 , ashkanazi and severdim . ( eastern and western ) the eastern ones who live in some arabians countries and Iran are against Israel ( well , they claim to be ) but afterall , who can believe them :D
you are wrong. the Sephardim are not against "israel", they never were. There are few Jews left in Arab countries; before they left, there were underground zionist movements in those countries and they were engaging in black flag and sabotage operations and many were caught in Egypt and Iraq. Anyway, the population was not all that against "israel", their loyalty to their countries of origin were weak, so at the slightest opportunity they packed their bags and left, and now they claim they were kicked out, which is not true; this is just a ploy to counter the Palestinian demands for compensation and right of return. In fact in Iraq, there was a law preventing them from leaving the country, and that law was changed to allow them to leave and they left willingly in the thousands...... the zionists of course then manufactured tales that they were being kicked out and made the people believe it, which was facilitated by the hysteria of the evacuations.

The Jews of Iran are a different matter, and there are also among them some agents, but in general they are well-integrated into Iranian society.

In "israel" today the Sephardim are the most radical, fascist, right-wing, Arab-hating people. Most are supporters of Likud.
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you are wrong. the Sephardim are not against "israel", they never were. There are few Jews left in Arab countries; before they left, there were underground zionist movements in those countries and they were engaging in black flag and sabotage operations and many were caught in Egypt and Iraq. Anyway, the population was not all that against "israel", their loyalty to their countries of origin were weak, so at the slightest opportunity they packed their bags and left, and now they claim they were kicked out, which is not true; this is just a ploy to counter the Palestinian demands for compensation and right of return. In fact in Iraq, there was a law preventing them from leaving the country, and that law was changed to allow them to leave and they left willingly in the thousands...... the zionists of course then manufactured tales that they were being kicked out and made the people believe it, which was facilitated by the hysteria of the evacuations.

The Jews of Iran are a different matter, and there are also among them some agents, but in general they are well-integrated into Iranian society.

In "israel" today the Sephardim are the most radical, fascist, right-wing, Arab-hating people. Most are supporters of Likud.
why cant you read my post twice brother ? specially the part that i said , but afterall , who can believe them ..

did you know that in the talmoud ( their book ) it says that its not a sin for a jew to lie on a non jew .
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Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud
Where a Jew Should Do Evil



Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.



Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis

Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell



Jews Have Superior Legal Status

Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."




Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
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Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud
Where a Jew Should Do Evil



Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.



Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis

Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell



Jews Have Superior Legal Status

Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."




Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
The Talmud was not written by Prophets or followers of Christ as The Bible and the Torah were. It's like listening to the Catholic church or Orthodox or any man-made denomination, it's a religion within itself.
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How is it not the most blessed?? There is no such thing only if you're blind and refuse to see the truth. Facts are facts.
lol the diff between u and me is that you are totally brainwashed by hollywood movies and american series who only show you the fake america ...... the so called "american dream".

nothing blessed about it .. history alwasy repeats itself .. like all other civilizations that have RULLED THE WORLD and were MUCH MUCH MORE powerfull that the US nowadays ..have fallen,(Rome,greek,Egyptian) this one is doomed to collapse on itself.

Reminds me of L'Apocalypse de St Jean chapitre XVIII( i hope u can read french ) :

"Helas!Helas! Babylonne grande ville,ville si puissante,ta condamnation est venue en un moment.Ciel temoinez-en votre joie et vous aussis saints apotres et prophetes ,parce que Dieu vous a venge d'elle.(...)C'est pourquoi la mort , le deuil et la famine viendront fondre sur elle en un seul jour parce que Dieu est puissant".


Holy **** !!!
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