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You've all listenned to Always of Bon Jovi; or Crazy or Aerosmith; or Love bites of Def Leppard; or Can't live if living is without you of Harry Nilson...etc (those were the love songs of my generation at least)

Whom hasn't day dreamed and illusionned into love stories and into pointless idealism that never existed except in movies, books, or songs.

You obviously know that as of human nature, the more you push your expectations the larger the deception; where do love songs fit in here?

In a world that is as materialistic as it gets; does the reference to absolute feelings and devotion help the person? Aren't love songs an indirect tool to fool the average person?

Then again, why fool people? ..and then getting them into undersired positions with respect to a person they love; aren't love songs a manner to waste the time of unluckily sensitive affectionate people? When in the meantime they could have turned to something more productive for society.

What makes love songs any different from a drug?

Aren't drugs leagaly considered as a crime?

Then why are not love songs classified as a crime against those poor people that tend to be carried away into illusion so easliy?
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You've all listenned to Always of Bon Jovi; or Crazy or Aerosmith; or Love bites of Def Leppard; or Can't live if living is without you of Harry Nilson...etc (those were the love songs of my generation at least)

Whom hasn't day dreamed and illusionned into love stories and into pointless idealism that never existed except in movies, books, or songs.

You obviously know that as of human nature, the more you push your expectations the larger the deception; where do love songs fit in here?

In a world that is as materialistic as it gets; does the reference to absolute feelings and devotion help the person? Aren't love songs an indirect tool to fool the average person?

Then again, why fool people? ..and then getting them into undersired positions with respect to a person they love; aren't love songs a manner to waste the time of unluckily sensitive affectionate people? When in the meantime they could have turned to something more productive for society.

What makes love songs any different from a drug?

Aren't drugs leagaly considered as a crime?

Then why are not love songs classified as a crime against those poor people that tend to be carried away into illusion so easliy?
Why do u want to destroy the 5 min of being carried away to a world away from this stupid and harsh reality??
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You're talking like a well informed Muslim scholar lol Songs and music do have a drugging effect on simple people. Songs with the power to drag the mind into a fantasy world of delusion are dangerous. Some people commit suicide while listening to Abdelhalim lol

It all depends on the person, if you're weak enough to faint over a song, then maybe it's best for mankind that you depart this world altogether.

But why the melancholy? It's not like the world is void of love!
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Why do u want to destroy the 5 min of being carried away to a world away from this stupid and harsh reality??
Why get carried away when you're gonna get disappointed in the end?

I want you to reach safe shores.
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You're talking like a well informed Muslim scholar lol Songs and music do have a drugging effect on simple people. Songs with the power to drag the mind into a fantasy world of delusion are dangerous. Some people commit suicide while listening to Abdelhalim lol

It all depends on the person, if you're weak enough to faint over a song, then maybe it's best for mankind that you depart this world altogether.

But why the melancholy? It's not like the world is void of love!
Back in university days, there used to be a Shiite classmate of mine; we used to put some music on in class during breaks; she used to flee away; i figured out later that it was some religious custom that made her refuse music to the ears. Let alone we used to play Nirvana... guess it was quite distressfull for her.

Anyway, a melancholic mood is followed up by a positive upbeat. Its the little things that make the most difference; a nice cool song can switch your mood and decide how the rest of your day will look like.

Nevertheless, too much emotions from a song (a.k.a love song) will perturbate your mind, you will end up very high very positive with high excpectations, thats not good; a successful mood is all about a persistance and balance between getting real high or real low... no extremes.
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Back in university days, there used to be a Shiite classmate of mine; we used to put some music on in class during breaks; she used to flee away; i figured out later that it was some religious custom that made her refuse music to the ears. Let alone we used to play Nirvana... guess it was quite distressfull for her.
Was your friend a Mufti? It's one of those very minor customs in terms of importance. Some people don't listen to songs for religious purposes, I testify that I surely am not one of them lol However, my taste in music is very far from modern.

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Anyway, a melancholic mood is followed up by a positive upbeat. Its the little things that make the most difference; a nice cool song can switch your mood and decide how the rest of your day will look like.
I agree.

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Nevertheless, too much emotions from a song (a.k.a love song) will perturbate your mind, you will end up very high very positive with high excpectations, thats not good; a successful mood is all about a persistance and balance between getting real high or real low... no extremes.
Yes, you're very much right on this one too. Age is also crucial here when we speak of the effect of certain songs. When you're a teenager, you're very much prone to stupidity; but as you mature more you change.

Music is the language of the soul; so as I say :D
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Was your friend a Mufti? It's one of those very minor customs in terms of importance. Some people don't listen to songs for religious purposes, I testify that I surely am not one of them lol However, my taste in music is very far from modern.
As of what i heard, some Shiite Imam's have fatwa's calling all sorts of fun or love songs to be devilish. My ex-classmate used to be a Shiaa that followed those Imams.

As i recall she used to tell that only revolutionary patriotic songs are allowed; thats why you wouldn't come across any songs on al Manar TV aside of patriotic or moukawma songs.

So i guess Hezballa are a group of Shiaa that follow Imams that reject music whatsoever.

...anyway when you'll find a ''veiled'' girl wearin tight pants, her breasts almost 3/4 showing, dancing standing on the bar at a night club; you'll think tiwce upon what those Imam's look for lol

Lets hope we don't become another Saudi Arabia or Algeria
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Hmmmm.. Perhaps Arabic love songs are language tools or contexts which shed some (additional) light to some Arabic-speakers about what love is. Sometimes when people fall in love they resort to sending love songs to each other because they often don't know what to say.

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Lets hope we don't become another Saudi Arabia or Algeria
Some parts of Lebanon have already become so
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Hmmmm.. Perhaps Arabic love songs are language tools or contexts which shed some (additional) light to some Arabic-speakers about what love is. Sometimes when people fall in love they resort to sending love songs to each other because they often don't know what to say.
Are you sure? a love song is pretty overdone with the fake pictures it carries; one sure doesn't want to surprise their partner this much.
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All the feelings described in songs originate directly from us, not from some far dstant planet... and they do exist. Only teenagers or not well-balanced people can be illusionned by the object of a song. Aslan it's perfectly normal, when i was a teenager i used to dream while listening to love songs and time didn't prove me wrong.
hose songs are not only about how love and the world are perfect, they're about the pain and longing for the other that come out of love. sometimes they express very violent feelings. All of that exists and i'm pretty sure each and every1 of us has experienced every subject those songs are treating.

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