Jesus and the Fig tree?!

[lebanese_a]

Jesus Puts a Curse on a Fig Tree

(Matthew 21.18,19)
When Jesus and his disciples left Bethany the next morning, he was hungry. From a distance Jesus saw a fig tree covered with leaves, and he went to see if there were any figs on the tree. But there were not any, because it wasn't the season for figs. So Jesus said to the tree, "Never again will anyone eat fruit from this tree!" The disciples heard him say this.

(Marc 11)
The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. Then he said to the tree, "May no one ever eat fruit from you again." And his disciples heard him say it.

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Hey everyone
I was discussing "Jesus in the bible" a week ago with my friends (how god is more forgiving in the new testament) and we stopped at this paragraph, That's the only paragraph we found that Jesus is "not forgiving" in?? uno why would he do that to the tree!! it was not even the Fig season!?!?!!!!
Can anyone explain this??

[Bodhisattva]

Maybe he's more human than we're giving him credit for, and he was sincerely hungry?

[shadow1]

Bohdi theory is the only plausible explanation. Jesus must bave been starving and counted on the tree to provide him some food. It's also very likely and the bible doesnt mention that Jesus was stung by a Dabbour ( ugly useless bee) and he had to curse the tree because he couldnt catch the dabbour. Whatever theologians put to the story is more to do with their vivid imagination than the nature of the fig tree itself. After all if Jesus meant for the tree to be cursed he wouldnt have made one of the tastiest fruits for mankind.

[Kakou]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

Jesus Puts a Curse on a Fig Tree

(Matthew 21.18,19)
When Jesus and his disciples left Bethany the next morning, he was hungry. From a distance Jesus saw a fig tree covered with leaves, and he went to see if there were any figs on the tree. But there were not any, because it wasn't the season for figs. So Jesus said to the tree, "Never again will anyone eat fruit from this tree!" The disciples heard him say this.

(Marc 11)
The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. Then he said to the tree, "May no one ever eat fruit from you again." And his disciples heard him say it.

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Hey everyone
I was discussing "Jesus in the bible" a week ago with my friends (how god is more forgiving in the new testament) and we stopped at this paragraph, That's the only paragraph we found that Jesus is "not forgiving" in?? uno why would he do that to the tree!! it was not even the Fig season!?!?!!!!
Can anyone explain this??

Hi!!
J'ai remarqué qu'il y a quelques-uns qui ont ridiculisé la chose!! Il ne s'agit pas de figue et famine ou de pardon et tolérance!! Il s'agit de ce que Jésus attend de chacun de nous!! Nous sommes des arbres qui doivent être porteurs dans cette vie!! Nous sommes des arbres qui doivent porter des fruits, de bons fruits de meilleure qualité pour que nous ne séchions pas!! Lorsque nous sommes nés, Dieu a mis en nous des capacités, des talents, BREF des graines qu'on doit arroser avec le temps et agrandir!! Nous devons les laisser fleurir, pour que, une fois nous sommes en face de lui et qu'il aura FAIM ou SOIF de nous, nous serions prêts à le rassasier de notre SAVOIR et de tous les fruits que nous aurions développés durant notre vie, pas comme la figue qui était sèche sous prétexte de saison!! Personne ne sait en fait quand il sera en face de lui!! Nous avons tous eu une longue (plus ou moins) vie, un certain temps-CHANCE, ce temps-Chance nous est donné pour que nous en profitions!! Une fois face à Dieu, nous n'avons pas le droit de lui dire, ce n'est pas notre saison (on peut mourir jeunes, enfants ou vieux) et nous ne portons pas de qualités! Nous devons lui offrir quelque chose en contrepartie de ce qu'il nous a offert!!

Je ne sais pas si j'ai été claire! Mais cet exemple de l'Evangile a, en quelque sorte, le même message que le texte autour du seigneur qui a donné des parts (de monnaie: waznét) à ses serviteurs et est allé en voyage!! De retour, il leur a demandé à propos de ces parts. L'un d'eux l'avait perdue en la dépensant, l'autre l'avait gardée telle quelle et un troisième l'avait investie et l'a multipliée!! Le seigneur n'a apprécié que le troisième, car c'est celui qui a su profiter de son don!!

Le Seigneur ne veut pas qu'on lui rende ce qu'il nous a donné, mais de développer nos talents et les "maturer"!!

Exemple simple, si j'ai une belle voix, je ne dois pas la perdre par ce qui y nuit, je ne dois pas la laisser pour moi non plus (car rester à sa place, c'est comme marcher en arrière), mais il faut que je chante (ne ridiculisez surtout pas ce point! On peut chanter chez soi, pour les gens, pour la famille ou en église!!) pour que ce don reste ou progresse! C'est un petit exemple!! Il y en a plein d'autres et chacun de nous à des dons, voire plein de dons!!

Cherchez vos dons et multipliez-les!!

[Bodhisattva]

Originally Posted by shadow1

Bohdi theory is the only plausible explanation. Jesus must bave been starving and counted on the tree to provide him some food. It's also very likely and the bible doesnt mention that Jesus was stung by a Dabbour ( ugly useless bee) and he had to curse the tree because he couldnt catch the dabbour. Whatever theologians put to the story is more to do with their vivid imagination than the nature of the fig tree itself. After all if Jesus meant for the tree to be cursed he wouldnt have made one of the tastiest fruits for mankind.

here's one for you Shaddow, the bodhi tree under which sakyamuni is said to have realized enlightenment is an ancient form of the Fig,

im sure they make wonderful trees, in Lebanon, they provide so much shade and space for all beings to make their houses. I don't know about hte dabbour part, it could be true, afterall what makes him special is not necc the divinity around him i think but the model, archetype he can provide us as a human being, to reach..

I prefer the Mustard seed part of the Sermon of the Mount

[coralie]

Originally Posted by lebanese_a

Jesus Puts a Curse on a Fig Tree

(Matthew 21.18,19)
When Jesus and his disciples left Bethany the next morning, he was hungry. From a distance Jesus saw a fig tree covered with leaves, and he went to see if there were any figs on the tree. But there were not any, because it wasn't the season for figs. So Jesus said to the tree, "Never again will anyone eat fruit from this tree!" The disciples heard him say this.

(Marc 11)
The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. Then he said to the tree, "May no one ever eat fruit from you again." And his disciples heard him say it.

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Hey everyone
I was discussing "Jesus in the bible" a week ago with my friends (how god is more forgiving in the new testament) and we stopped at this paragraph, That's the only paragraph we found that Jesus is "not forgiving" in?? uno why would he do that to the tree!! it was not even the Fig season!?!?!!!!
Can anyone explain this??

like in many of his teachings Jesus always used the "metaphore" to adress a certain message or lesson to his dissiples or ppl around him . and in this part as well it was a metaphore and i will not repeat what Kakou explained very well .

[Kakou]

Originally Posted by coralie

i will not repeat what Kakou explained very well .

Merci!! Je croyais que j'ai été incompréhensible!!

[Inanna]

it's a metaphore~
and i totally agree too with what kakou said!

Le Seigneur ne veut pas qu'on lui rende ce qu'il nous a donné, mais de développer nos talents et les "maturer"!!

[coralie]

Originally Posted by Kakou

Merci!! Je croyais que j'ai été incompréhensible!!

tout a fait comprehensible a ceux qui veulent comprendre ...

mais ceux qui n le veulent pas ont pourrai argumneter d'ici jusqua 100 ans avenir rien n'y ferai.

ce qui sont familier avec la Bible et ls enseignement du Christe dvrait comprendre le sens d ces petites histoires "metaphores" qu'il a souvent utiliser pour pouvoir fair parvenir son message de facon claire mais aussi d'une facon aussi simple et pure pour que les plus demunis puissent le comprendre . donc il se referait toujours aux choses les plus simples comme l'arbre ou autres exemples de la vie de tous les jours !

[Faithful]

Kakou i totally agree with you and you did a very well explanation but let me add this explanation that i found about :

Why did Jesus curse the fig tree, when figs weren't in season?


"Was it not unreasonable to curse the tree for being fruitless when, as Mark expressly says, "it was not the season for figs"? The problem is most satisfactorily cleared up in a discussion called "The Barren Fig Tree" published many years ago by W. M. Christie, a Church of Scotland minister in Palestine under the British mandatory regime. He pointed out first the time of year at which the incident is said to have occurred (if, as is probable, Jesus was crucified on April 6th, A.D. 30, the incident occurred during the first days of April). "Now," wrote Christie, "the facts connected with the fig tree are these. Toward the end of March the leaves begin to appear, and in about a week the foliage coating is complete. Coincident with [this], and sometimes even before, there appears quite a crop of small knobs, not the real figs, but a kind of early forerunner. They grown to the size of green almonds, in which condition they are eaten by peasants and others when hungry. When they come to their own indefinite maturity they drop off." These precursors of the true fig are called taqsh in Palestinian Arabic. Their appearance is a harbinger of the fully formed appearance of the true fig some six weeks later. So, as Mark says, the time for figs had not yet come. But if the leaves appear without any taqsh, that is a sign that there will be no figs. Since Jesus found "nothing but leaves" - leaves without any taqsh- he knew that "it was an absolutely hopeless, fruitless fig tree" and said as much."