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I actually don't believe that further reducing the intelligence of those who believe those articles is even possible !!!! This article is full of BS, blatant lies and false information.
then go take a shot or two and make your familly take the vaccin as well !!!
i know as long as there is doctors saying there is something wrong this means there is a doubt about it it is not 100% safe and i will never jeopardize my life my kids or my familly life .
then go take a shot or two and make your familly take the vaccin as well !!!
i know as long as there is doctors saying there is something wrong this means there is a doubt about it it is not 100% safe and i will never jeopardize my life my kids or my familly life .
There is nothing that is 100% safe nor guaranteed in life. Aspirin is not 100% safe, the side effects include ulcers, bleeding, reyes syndrome.....The question is what percentage of population gets them? I bet that you've taken some aspirin in your life didn't you?
The question now is: what's more risky, taking the vaccine or not? and by any measure not taking the vaccine is riskier and presents the risks of much serious side effects. To answer the "dr", the company making the vaccine is actually french and not american and is called sanofi pasteur.
And i could care less if you take the vaccine or not, my only issue is you publishing lies without the least of critical thinking applied to them.....Last the video is old because apparently we have millions of infections already :)
Maybe you should check what confirmed means! Confirmed when you do a PCR analysis and establish that it's H1N1 flu.
PCR is currently only being done on severe cases that require hospital admission. Every other case with flu like symptoms is being send home and asked to stay there!
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Vaccines and Guillain-Barré syndrome.
Haber P, Sejvar J, Mikaeloff Y, DeStefano F.
Immunization Safety Office, Office of the Chief Science Officer, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, Georgia 30333, USA. PHaber@cdc.gov
Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) is the leading cause of acute flaccid paralysis in developed countries and is characterized by various degrees of weakness, sensory abnormalities and autonomic dysfunction. Although the underlying aetiology and pathophysiology of GBS are not completely understood, it is broadly believed that immune stimulation plays a role in its pathogenesis. Thus, since vaccines have an effect on the immune system it is biologically plausible that immunizations may be associated with subsequent GBS. The objective of this article is to review the current body of evidence that either supports or does not support a causal, rather than just temporal, association between various vaccines and GBS, and to provide an evidence-based review of this issue. The scope of the article includes published reports that, regardless of method of case ascertainment, appeared in peer-reviewed literature between 1950 and 2008. Our review indicates that, with rare exceptions, associations between vaccines and GBS have been only temporal. There is little evidence to support a causal association with most vaccines. The evidence for a causal association is strongest for the swine influenza vaccine that was used in 1976-77. Studies of influenza vaccines used in subsequent years, however, have found small or no increased risk of GBS. Older formulations of rabies vaccine cultured in mammalian brain tissues have been found to have an increased risk of GBS, but newer formulations of rabies vaccine, derived from chick embryo cells, do not appear to be associated with GBS at a greater than expected rate.In an earlier review, the Institute of Medicine concluded that the evidence favoured a causal association between oral polio vaccine and tetanus toxoid-containing vaccines and GBS. However, recent evidence from large epidemiological studies and mass immunization campaigns in different countries found no correlation between oral polio vaccine or tetanus toxoid-containing vaccines and GBS. Spontaneous reports to the US Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System shortly after the introduction of quadrivalent conjugated meningococcal vaccine (MCV4) raised concerns of a possible association with GBS. Comparisons with expected rates of GBS, however, were inconclusive for an increased risk, and lack of controlled epidemiological studies makes it difficult to draw conclusions about a causal association. For other vaccines, available data are based on isolated case reports or very small clusters temporally related to immunizations, and no conclusion about causality can be drawn. There are certain circumstances in which immunizing individuals, particularly those with a prior history of GBS, may require caution. However, the benefit of vaccines in preventing disease and decreasing morbidity and mortality, particularly for influenza, needs to be weighed against the potential risk of GBS.
Now me talking: The talk about brain tumors, blindness and other effects mentioned in the previous interview is pure BS. You bring me one case report showing a brain tumor or blindness related to a vaccine, any vaccine!
H1N1 Cases Vastly Underreported, CDC Says
October 29 2009
WASHINGTON -- The number of confirmed cases of H1N1 flu from April to July represents just 2% of the actual people who were infected with the virus, according to a report by the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
The report, posted to the agency's Web site, says the number of people infected with H1N1 flu from April to July likely was between 1.8 million and 5.7 million, much higher than the 43,677 confirmed cases. The paper also said the virus hospitalized 9,000 to 21,000 people during the same period.
The study shows the prevalence of the virus is more widespread than originally reported. The CDC and World Health Organization in July stopped tracking individual cases because they acknowledged doing so was difficult.
In recent weeks, government health officials have instead been describing the scope of the virus by saying it is widespread in 46 states. The authors of the study say the report may help health officials plan for a subsequent wave of the epidemic in the fall and winter months.
Steve Brozak, an analyst and president of WBB Securities LLC, said the report shows there are just "too many variables" for the government to track individual cases, and suggests the government can't be held accountable if the disease becomes more or less widespread than health officials estimate.
"Now there's just no way you can say statistically we should have done this or done that," Mr. Brozak said.
The report says underreporting may occurs for a handful of reasons, including because not everyone gets tested and the quality of tests varies.
The authors of the study created a model to estimate cases based off the number of confirmed reports and other studies, such as the rate at which people with the season flu seek help.
The study estimates that for every confirmed case, there was likely a median of 79 actual people infected with the virus. Using the same model, the authors estimate about 800 people died from the virus during the same time frame. H1N1 Cases Vastly Underreported, CDC Says - WSJ.com
Armenian, it has been few months now that most countries dropped individual testing and screening for H1N1, and cases reported to the WHO are a huge underestimation of the actual figures of infections. At this point, tracking numbers isnt of any significance, so the WHO is conducting "sample testing" to keep track of the trend of the pandemic, of clusters and of any possible mutations the virus might undergo.
Anyways, the ECDC now reports 6051 deaths worldwide, the WHO reports 5712 deaths, and total reports from wikipedia put the number of deaths at 6694 with the USA and Brazil being the most affected countries (1451 and 1403 fatalities respectively).
In Lebanon, we have 1500 confirmed cases and 3 fatalities.
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Maybe you should check what confirmed means! Confirmed when you do a PCR analysis and establish that it's H1N1 flu.
PCR is currently only being done on severe cases that require hospital admission. Every other case with flu like symptoms is being send home and asked to stay there!
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Originally Posted by Rors
H1N1 Cases Vastly Underreported, CDC Says
October 29 2009
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I'm not a doctor nor an expert, I was reading about it just today that's why I gave the info...
From the article we can see that nothing is known, but you should also remember that each year 250 000 people die from regular flu, that we often get and heal by Tylenol Cold or panadol.
As for a case, check this out ( I am aware that it's not about the H1N1 shot, but a regular flu shot):
There is nothing that is 100% safe nor guaranteed in life. Aspirin is not 100% safe, the side effects include ulcers, bleeding, reyes syndrome.....The question is what percentage of population gets them? I bet that you've taken some aspirin in your life didn't you?
The question now is: what's more risky, taking the vaccine or not? and by any measure not taking the vaccine is riskier and presents the risks of much serious side effects. To answer the "dr", the company making the vaccine is actually french and not american and is called sanofi pasteur.
And i could care less if you take the vaccine or not, my only issue is you publishing lies without the least of critical thinking applied to them.....Last the video is old because apparently we have millions of infections already :)
KN, while you are right on the money regarding the vaccine, may i add that the H1N1 vaccine is produced by several companies, around 5-7, including sanofi pasteur for their monovalent vaccine. Medimmune, part of AstraZeneca, produces the nasal one and another American company alsoproducing the vaccine-can't recall the name.
Overall, the fast development of the vaccine is expected given the fact that enormous biological knowledge based is available nowadays unlike in the 1920s and 1952.
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I'm not a doctor nor an expert, I was reading about it just today that's why I gave the info...
From the article we can see that nothing is known, but you should also remember that each year 250 000 people die from regular flu, that we often get and heal by Tylenol Cold or panadol.
As for a case, check this out ( I am aware that it's not about the H1N1 shot, but a regular flu shot):
The problem is not the nr of deaths . Here are the concerns:
1- The virus is highly contagious
2- The complications seem to be much more complex in children and in pregnant women.
Now having said that, it is true that most people will have mild symptoms, however the fear from a healthcare provider's perspective is this:
Let's say you have 10000 infections in an area and only 3% of them are severe enough to require hospitalization. That's 300 people!!!! What do we do then ? We don't have 300 ICU beds, nor 300 ventilators and not even the staff to take care of them.....you see my point?
The CDC does not recommend the vaccine to everyone, that's something that all the conspiracy theories proponents keep forgetthing to mention....Only people at risk for severe complications and those who might be spreading it (hospital staff) should take it....
As for the video, this is certainly a heartbreaking story good luck demonstrating the causality though! you know how many people tell me, Oh i took the vaccine before and it gave me the flu....(When the regular flu vaccine doesn't contain a virus). Trying to make sense of random events is hard wired human trait...