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20th May 2007
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Originally Posted by Gaius Julius Caesar
Since this topic was brought up in another thread, I thought we should find out what the Bible has to say about homosexuality.
“And God said, Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.”Genesis 1:26-27
God created all the people of the earth in his basic image. Obviously, there is a good reason God created male and female.
“And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.”Genesis 1:28
Here we have God's first command to mankind and that is to be fruitful and multiply. God created us male and female to have children. If a person is in a gay relationship, they cannot have children the way God intended them to.
“And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.”Genesis 1:29-31
God saw everything he had made and it was very good. In another words, you’re not born gay.
God's law on homosexuality:
“Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”Leviticus 18:22
Men having sexual relations with other men is morally repugnant in God's eyes. And it’s the same for women with women.
“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”Leviticus 20:13
God's judgment for gay people is that they are put to death. For the politicians and other people that support gay rights, they probably think this verse is a hate crime. By calling God's Holy Word a hate crime they are walking on very thin ice. Someday they will see God face to face and chances are they are not going to be very happy on that day. God is going to want to know why they ignored his Word. What are they going to say to Him on that day? "Sorry God, but I know how to treat your children that you created better than you do." If you are a Christian and you think this verse is a hate crime, you better wise up fast. If you think you know more than God, you have become a fool.
“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,”Romans 1:22
Anytime someone thinks they know more than God, they become a fool. How can the creature know more than it's Creator?
“And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.”Romans 1:23
These fools will worship anything except the immortal God. God gave us his Word, which is the Bible, to guide us in our daily life. Sad to say but many of his children have never bothered to read his letter to us. We should love God more than anything else in this world.
“Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:”Romans 1:24
These people did not follow God's laws and turned there back on him. If you reject God, he will reject you.
“Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.”Romans 1:25
Christians that say being gay is alright with God and that he does not think homosexuality is a sin have changed the truth of God's Word into a lie.
“For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:”Romans 1:26
Homosexuality is against nature for mankind. If gay people are born gay, why would God tell us it is against nature? God said being homosexual is against nature because not one single person ever was or ever will be born homosexual. It is a lifestyle that a person has chosen and it is a sin. Women having sexual relations with other women is just as much a sin as men with men.
“And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”Romans 1:27
Homosexuality is an indecency and unnatural. Being gay is wrong and a sin. Don't believe the lies you hear on the news or in some of the false teaching churches that homosexual people are born that way and that we should all support homosexuality. If you are a true Christian, you will be against homosexuality because our Father is against homosexuality. It is a sin and a sin people could stop committing if they wanted to. Standing up for the truth of God's Word will not make you very popular with mankind. Should a Christian really care about that? No! A true Christian wants to make God our Father happy and if that upsets other people, that is their problem. Jesus did not care if he upset people. He did what God told him to do and that should be the desire of every Christian. That is how we make God happy.
“But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”1 Timothy 1:8-10
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”1 Corinthians 6:9-10
If you are homosexual and would like to go to heaven, repent to God for your sin of homosexuality and ask the Lord to help you change your ways. Christ died for the sins of the world and homosexuality is a sin that he will forgive if you repent and change your ways.
“And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.”1 Corinthians 6:11
By the blood of Christ our sins can be washed away and we can have a fresh new start. Some people teach that gay people will automatically go to hell. That is a lie. There is only one unforgivable sin and this is not it. Does that mean that homosexual people can keep on being homosexual and still go to heaven? No. They must repent and change their ways. The Bible clearly tells us that being gay is wrong and a sin. God is a God of love and fairness and would not call something a sin if there was absolutely no way for the person to stop committing that sin. If a homosexual person seeks forgiveness from God, they need to repent and change their ways. Ask the Lord for help. If you’re honest with him and really want to change, he will help you. You may fall at times and sin again but repent and keep on trying. You don't want Satan to control your life, so never give up. Christians should not support gay rights because as we have read in the Bible, homosexuality is against God's law. Does anybody really believe that God will bless them if they support gay rights? Why would he when he said homosexuality is a sin?
I posted an article few weeks ago about Homosexuality, and directly one of the community moderators moved it. When I asked why, the answer was: “… we want to make sure that the level of the forum doesn’t drop down”.
Please for God sake, read what this guy is saying. For God sake this is a direct and inhuman discrimination. He is discriminating more than 25% of the Society (this is the minimum percentage of gay and bisexual people in Lebanon) in the name of the Bible. Please the book was written to inspire us for a better life. Not to ruin or rule our life.
I can’t blame the Guy; he is just a Homophobic person who is trying to express his fears. And he found few words in the Bible to support him. Let him keep his phobia and his believes for himself.
But I do blame the moderators… Be clear about that subject. If you don’t accept the Homosexual people, just say it so we can take that in consideration and think again about the policy of this forum and this party. But I know well that this mistake is from few moderators who are not taking in consideration the image of the party.
The homosexuality is not my real concern but the way such delicate subjects are treated over here.
Don’t ruin the beautiful image that we saw in this party; a FREE PATRIOTIC movement. A dream of a free country where all humans are equal, are free to believe in what they want, are free TO BE WHAT THEY ARE.
The "guy" has posted a religious thread. Ya3ne something new. We are discussing Homosexuality from a religious point of view. Again something new on the forum.
Stating "your opinion" is what freedom is. You want to stop people from expressing their ideas from a "religious" perspective? If you don't like what Caesar said, you can argue along the line.
"Express his fears"? What's he afraid of? You're the one who's afraid from listening to what he has to say. I advice you to read the Bible before you speak.
You didn’t get the point. He is denying homosexual people their right to exist, using some words from the Bible. I don’t even need to read all that, although I already did. We know very well how this book was written and by whom. If you don’t know, you better read something else than this old book…
Thank you for taking the time to read my thread
You didn’t get the point. He is denying homosexual people their right to exist, using some words from the Bible. I don’t even need to read all that, although I already did. We know very well how this book was written and by whom. If you don’t know, you better read something else than this old book…
Thank you for taking the time to read my thread
How was the Bible written and by whom?
By the way, you said that people are free to believe in what they want, so why do you want to restrict this freedom?
You didn’t get the point. He is denying homosexual people their right to exist, using some words from the Bible. I don’t even need to read all that, although I already did. We know very well how this book was written and by whom. If you don’t know, you better read something else than this old book…
Thank you for taking the time to read my thread
I've ready a lot, not only the Bible. The Bible says that, God says that. So we are discussing it from a religious perspective and religion says it's wrong. what is your point?
I posted an article few weeks ago about Homosexuality, and directly one of the community moderators moved it. When I asked why, the answer was: “… we want to make sure that the level of the forum doesn’t drop down”.
Please for God sake, read what this guy is saying. For God sake this is a direct and inhuman discrimination. He is discriminating more than 25% of the Society (this is the minimum percentage of gay and bisexual people in Lebanon) in the name of the Bible. Please the book was written to inspire us for a better life. Not to ruin or rule our life.
I can’t blame the Guy; he is just a Homophobic person who is trying to express his fears. And he found few words in the Bible to support him. Let him keep his phobia and his believes for himself.
But I do blame the moderators… Be clear about that subject. If you don’t accept the Homosexual people, just say it so we can take that in consideration and think again about the policy of this forum and this party. But I know well that this mistake is from few moderators who are not taking in consideration the image of the party.
The homosexuality is not my real concern but the way such delicate subjects are treated over here.
Don’t ruin the beautiful image that we saw in this party; a FREE PATRIOTIC movement. A dream of a free country where all humans are equal, are free to believe in what they want, are free TO BE WHAT THEY ARE.
The content of the post of any member including the one you posted reflect only his opinion and does not reflect on the image of the forum or Free Patriotic Movement as you suggested.
Let me assure again that the forum does not condone discrimination of any kind including upon sexual orientation as clearly stated in rule 6:
Yet the forum respects the freedom of speech of all members and the post you quoted does not constitute discrimination as the poster is interpreting in his own way (which again the forum is not responsible for) what the bible says about homosexuality.
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20th May 2007
