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You say its not about rights, still many accept women having less salary for the same job. How is that fair.
That's not fair. Women should be paid more if you want to be fair. Such delicate creatures working so hard... What a crime.

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Of course there are biological differences, who is debating that?? And of course there are certain professions which requires rather male or female workers.
Rather it is about advocating for equal social and political rights, only asking for to respect the universal human rights. As in many places it exists on paper only, you dont need to look too far to notice it
No one is disagreeing with that :).

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And you dont need to be a hairy ugly feminist to advocate for women rights.
Those are the only ones i seem to be seeing lol. I'm all for women rights when there's logic, but when they want to put extra pressure on women by turning us to men, i'm against it. Many feminists have anger towards men (maybe it's because they're ugly ), that kind turn me off and so do their calls.

One things certain, when women impose power and authority over men, society is torn to shreds. A home where a woman is the man is no home, it's a stable. I also look down on a society where women are ruling, my nature, it gives me the impression that they have no men. Which man would accept to be controlled by a woman? Tfeh
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I belive that men and women can only be partners and not a slave to the other. No body in a relationship can be trained, you have to accept the other as he/she is. I dont think men should do some home duties except helping with the kids and maybe cooking if he really likes too but for the rest, a woman who has a job can divide her time between home duties even if she is married and have kids. I dont know this is how I saw my mother and father do when I was growing up.

For the real man question, here is my answer: there is no standards of being a real men, it all depends on what a women wants in each men and every women is different. My definition of what a real men is is someone who knows what he wants in life and is doing everything to get what he wants. Someone who isnt scared of being with the same girl all his life when he finally find his perfect match and has a heart and its not scared to follow his heart and mind (both of them). Quelqu'un qui a confiance en lui-meme. Voila c'est ca un vrai homme pour moi.
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How about training him on the art of massage, manicure and pedicure, romantic dinners and the like. Would he have been a real man according to the feminists? I think yes. Feminists corrupted women more than they think.
Keep the pedicure and manicure aside! :D But what's wrong with the 'art' of massage and romantic dinners every now and then?
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You just got to find the right guy at the right time :)
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if that lady felt that she had to "tame" her husband like that, it means she married the wrong guy ...
nobody actually notices that her husband is a little dumber than her ? there's no IQ compatibility between the couple. i say she should have married someone equal to her in terms of IQ, he should be as civilized as she is.
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Keep the pedicure and manicure aside! :D But what's wrong with the 'art' of massage and romantic dinners every now and then?
Nothing is wrong with it (do not know why even keeping manicure and pedicure aside..) what I said was in the context of a question.
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Those are the only ones i seem to be seeing lol. I'm all for women rights when there's logic, but when they want to put extra pressure on women by turning us to men, i'm against it. Many feminists have anger towards men (maybe it's because they're ugly ), that kind turn me off and so do their calls.

One things certain, when women impose power and authority over men, society is torn to shreds. A home where a woman is the man is no home, it's a stable. I also look down on a society where women are ruling, my nature, it gives me the impression that they have no men. Which man would accept to be controlled by a woman? Tfeh
I second this post. This is the kind of feminism that I can appreciate.

And I would like to add something from a man's perspective, about what makes women attractive. Beyond the looks and cosmetics and outward pleasantries, the thing that really makes a woman attractive is her gentile feminine nature. In order for any relationship to last, men and women need to compliment one another. We are not at war. At the end of the day, we both want the same things: love, security, peace, happiness, success, etc. And it is precisely the fragile, sweet, feminine aspects of women that compliment the characteristics of men. Men want to feel that they are capable of providing outward sense of security and safety for women, and in turn women provide men with a more subtle sense of security and safety by loving us and caring for us. Smart women will know how to give their men that tender, subtle security and love, and still know how to get what they want out of their man without drawing lines in the sand and going to war.

But when women want to assume the roles of men, not socially but within the framework of a relationship, this is where the problems arise. Women who act as men are simply not attractive to us. They come off as militaristic, and under no circumstances should a women be reduced to militarism, because it directly contradicts their nature. It is simply catastrophic.
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I second this post. This is the kind of feminism that I can appreciate.

And I would like to add something from a man's perspective, about what makes women attractive. Beyond the looks and cosmetics and outward pleasantries, the thing that really makes a woman attractive is her gentile feminine nature. In order for any relationship to last, men and women need to compliment one another. We are not at war. At the end of the day, we both want the same things: love, security, peace, happiness, success, etc. And it is precisely the fragile, sweet, feminine aspects of women that compliment the characteristics of men. Men want to feel that they are capable of providing outward sense of security and safety for women, and in turn women provide men with a more subtle sense of security and safety by loving us and caring for us. Smart women will know how to give their men that tender, subtle security and love, and still know how to get what they want out of their man without drawing lines in the sand and going to war.

But when women want to assume the roles of men, not socially but within the framework of a relationship, this is where the problems arise. Women who act as men are simply not attractive to us. They come off as militaristic, and under no circumstances should a women be reduced to militarism, because it directly contradicts their nature. It is simply catastrophic.

you spoke the mind of almost all men. Brilliant post.
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