How the BigBang proves the existence of God.

[Stella]

Originally Posted by taifoon

Doc, there is no big bang, but rather endless recurring big bangs, in a hermetically sealed and closed universe being part of a bigger constructions of universes.

All what you see around you now has already existed endless of times before today, and will keep coming exactly as you see it today for endless of times in the furure.. You have been posting this topic on this same forum for 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000 times in the past and will keep doing so for the same and more amount of times in the future.. every atom, light beam, buzzing fly and cloud formation you see today, will be here again and again, at the same spot, in the same chemical structure and the same sky of the same earth.. We come into our birth from the same place where we go when we die..

The physics of this construction are such that nothing that was once created will ever cease to exist, but is only recycled.
Thus at some point in time and as the inevitable consequence of time absorbation into a diminishing space, all existing space surfing objects (galaxies, stars, interstellar dust and gas clouds, the dark materia spots, wondering blackholes and all those lonly particles and their anti-twins) once generated by the first and ultimate Big Bang, will merge again in a never ending collapse to restart the rebirth of this same universe..
All this will happen irrespective of how much i might get bashed for saying this or you might praise the lord.. :)

Where does the notion of God fits in here?
It fits in here as much as anything else you know of.. The matrix put upon and before our eyes through this construction is already described by few wisemen, philosophers and physists: Kama fi l sama2 kazalika 3ala al ard.. We mirror what is mirrored on us. We see actions and effects, the casual laws surrounding us everywhere and hence, bound by the senses given to us, are inclined to think the same about the creation riddle: The need of a having a DOER to what we see IS BEING DONE.. and worse, we keep seeking a meaning for its actions and love to make it fit into our earthy worries...

Will you repeat what you have done millions and millions of times before today and answer me that: No my friend, there is a GOD, and HE is utterly engaged in such details as to listening carefully to the thousands upon thousands of daily prayers asking him for mercy upon their miserable lives?
Or for those poor sick crying for his divine attention to cure their blinds, their deafs and their dyings?
To prevent utter ignorance from leading nations into deadly perils?

Or is it only a construction to substitute the sane but highly required active conduct of loving and living in harmony with each others only to ease the way we spend together our common share in space and time?

Let's guess which one..:)

taifoon, dear friend

I wonder when we will be able to live the "here and now" rather than bothering with such nonsense as sapce and time! What if Time stands still? Bc it has never ever existed? What if we see only the eternal ever repeating same old patterns? Oh yeah fractals again! So after all we get again to the conclusion: that everyhing is ONE! Let me quote again our wise Coelho: you can see the perfection of the universe in the most tiniest grain of sand, and these perfect patterns of energy are all around us, its part of us and we are part of it. Its the same with God too.

ps: taifoon dear, why do you use the term "He" for God? You think God has a gender? Surely God is wiser than that!

[Orangina]

Originally Posted by Stella23

ps: taifoon dear, why do you use the term "He" for God? You think God has a gender? Surely God is wiser than that!

i like this stella23

you are right....

you made my day lady

cheers

[taifoon]

Originally Posted by Stella23

taifoon, dear friend

I wonder when we will be able to live the "here and now" rather than bothering with such nonsense as sapce and time! What if Time stands still? Bc it has never ever existed?

Because, Stella dear friend, ""here" is "space" and "now" is "time"
And also "If time stands still" then space will also cease to exist and this is exactly what happens at some point when two people get deeply in love with each other , since in singularity, all existing 'bodies' will have merged together into one holy "body"

What if we see only the eternal ever repeating same old patterns? Oh yeah fractals again! So after all we get again to the conclusion: that everyhing is ONE! Let me quote again our wise Coelho: you can see the perfection of the universe in the most tiniest grain of sand, and these perfect patterns of energy are all around us, its part of us and we are part of it. Its the same with God too.

Stella, you are then agreeing on this notion of the creation repeating itself? Good, because this is what the endless patterns within patterns of those fractals tell us.. But from this to the notion of having a perfect God very conscious and steadly engaged in the details of Its creation needs light years of persuading efforts on me.. This is my whole point: We have indeed a marvellous creation, a construction where we all constitute parts of.. We only are bound by our senses to translate its manifestation according to the boundaries set upon us by those senses. We translate casuality laws and applicate them on everything, thus Gods Notion.. Even if i will be tempted to think this is the case, i still ask: So what? God exists or Not exists, is not an issue.
The issue in my point is if we do beleive IT ( ) cares much if we do or not do beleive in its existence, and thus the relevance of its notion in our human context ;)

ps: taifoon dear, why do you use the term "He" for God? You think God has a gender? Surely God is wiser than that!

I was alluding to docs HE mentioning of God.. Of course a SHE would suit you more , but i'd rather stick to an IT..

[Osiris]

Originally Posted by GeneralDave

For the people who do think that God doesn't exist...can you give me a single proof ?

Same for those who claim otherwise !
No one would ever know the truth (at least in this life ).

Originally Posted by GeneralDave

I will give you a proof that God does exist...here is a simple one...Check our planet and its characteristics:
...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter. Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day. And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet it restrains our massive oceans from spilling over across the continents.

So who did create and organized the earth? was it luck or It was God who did oraganize it this way? I don't think it was luck

Ok.
Imagine you are holding 10 dices in your hand, you throw them all.. what is the probability of getting '6' on every dice ? it is simple (1/6) to the power 10, which is 1/60466176 = 1.654 * 10 power -8.

This is a very low probability indeed, but guess what! We have the 1 in 1/60466176 !! So there is 1 chance indeed!!

In other words, there exists many other "earthes" that are 1 cm closer to their "sun" that ours, or 1 cm further away, or rotating at a lesser rate.. etc ! But there exists our earth that had everything needed for this form of life. And who knows, maybe there exists other forms of life elsewhere! Maybe another form of life in another "earth" that is 1 cm closer to its "sun" !! who knows !

Dave, I am not trying to prove anything. This is only mathematics and probability.

Cheers.

[Stella]

Originally Posted by taifoon

Because, Stella dear friend, ""here" is "space" and "now" is "time"
And also "If time stands still" then space will also cease to exist and this is exactly what happens at some point when two people get deeply in love with each other , since in singularity, all existing 'bodies' will have merged together into one holy "body"

hehe what a marvellous example! Ok se we can agree on the concept of ONE, defining the whole universe!

Stella, you are then agreeing on this notion of the creation repeating itself?

Yes, I just adore fractals, so utterly perfect they are!

Good, because this is what the endless patterns within patterns of those fractals tell us.. But from this to the notion of having a perfect God very conscious and steadly engaged in the details of Its creation needs light years of persuading efforts on me.. This is my whole point: We have indeed a marvellous creation, a construction where we all constitute parts of.. We only are bound by our senses to translate its manifestation according to the boundaries set upon us by those senses. We translate casuality laws and applicate them on everything, thus Gods Notion.. Even if i will be tempted to think this is the case, i still ask: So what? God exists or Not exists, is not an issue.
The issue in my point is if we do beleive IT ( ) cares much if we do or not do beleive in its existence, and thus the relevance of its notion in our human context ;)

Well I guess God is even perfect in being imperfect too!

I was alluding to docs HE mentioning of God.. Of course a SHE would suit you more, but i'd rather stick to an IT..

No, no taifoon, I wasnt suggesting any SHE, and I dont like the IT neither, lets simply use God, without any gender indication. Otherwise it would be so human!




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[Chrysostomos]

Originally Posted by Orangina

General Dave thanks for your good explanation about the earth and moon position, the universe is definitely going to his more stable state!

i do believe that god exists!!

but how do you want me to answer when my mom asks:

where is your god, while watching all the disaster happening all over the world?

Where is your god, when she sees pure little innocent children dying from hard deseases?

Where is your god, when she sees how this political are ruling their countries?

Where is your god, when she look at how people are killing each other?

Where is your god, when a woman is rapped?

Where is your god, when a child get rapped?

Where is your god, where is your god?

I don't know general dave what to answer, and i'll definitely not give your answer about the organisation of earth to my mom!!

cheers

God could create us as robots who always praise him, follow his will, don't fall into temptations which might lead to falling into sins.
Bud God did respect us as Sacred Creatures above all creatures on earth.
That's why God gave us FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
Those acts you are talking about (from killing each others to rapping a child or a woman, to the economical or natural disaster happening around the world etc etc...) are results from this freedom because many ppl did choose the evil way (thus to kill, to steal, to rape, to be bad dictators...) and God can't interfere with this freedom of choice because He gave it to the human race as a sacred gift. And about the natural disasters, the nature is created on basis and principles and even science now can predict way before the disaster might occure. Disasters can happen anywhere anytime that's why Jesus did state in the Gospels that no body knows when the time comes so we shall be always ready because the thief might come when nobody is ready.

Let me give you 3 small examples realted to your questions:

-1st example:
When i was at Medjugorje, we had a meeting with well-known priest there.
An Italian woman did ask him:"what did i do for God that he would take my child from me when he was only 1 year old?" and the Priest did reply her wisely: "God did gave you your child and it's up tp him to take him back...Your child is now an angel in Heaven and he's always praying for you and for all his family members...Moreover, many times we can't assimilate and understand the Logic of God because it's way bigger and rational than our small limited brains"

-2nd example:
2 men went to a barber. While sitting there they opened the subject about the existence of God. The first one began to clame that God doesn't exist becase he didn't do anything in regard to the disasters happening around the globe. And the first one resume on talking and talking and he didn't shut up. The second man who was a man of faith just kept silent until a man with a very long barb passed near the barber's shop. Both men did look toward the one who did pass near the shop. So the Second One stoop up and claimed that BARBERS do not exist because this man has a very long barb.
The second man had a very wise response meaning by it that God is knocking at your heart and it's your job to welcome him or not, it's like the man who didn't like to cut off his long barb, some ppl don't like to take the right path and are still looking from one perspective for one reason only:Fear of change.
But through the words of Jesus everyone should remember that this marteliastic world...even if we'll win it all...We'll be the poorest because in the end we'll lose it all and we might even lose ourselves.

-3rd example:
In France, a young man went to an old man telling him:"Thanks to the sciences, the humanity is getting better, now we have medicaments for almost every kind of sickness....God doesn't exist...only science does exist and thanks to people like Pasteur and others we've got cure for our illness"
The old man kept silent and he didn't look into the young man before him...so the young man kept on talking and talking until the Old man interfered him (He was praying the Rosary) :"My son, i am Pasteur and i am praying for God"

This story emphasizes the idea that we can be true believer and true men of science at the same time.

Hope i answered your questions...
God bless

[Chrysostomos]

Originally Posted by Osiris

Same for those who claim otherwise !
No one would ever know the truth (at least in this life ).

Many (including me) did experience the work of God in this life...
The wonderful order or evidence of intelligent design which the universe exhibits implies the existence of a supramundane Designer, who is no other than God Himself....Imagine looking at Mount Rushmore, in which the likenesses of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt are carved. Could you ever believe that it came about by chance? Given infinite time, wind, rain and chance, it is still hard to believe something like that, tied to history, was randomly formed in the side of a mountain. Common sense tells us that people planned and skillfully carved those figures.And Common Sense tell me that a Supernatural Creator did create our Earth and our Solar system.This is a living proof that God does exist.
Give me a proof that God doesn't exist

Originally Posted by Osiris

Ok.
Imagine you are holding 10 dices in your hand, you throw them all.. what is the probability of getting '6' on every dice ? it is simple (1/6) to the power 10, which is 1/60466176 = 1.654 * 10 power -8.

This is a very low probability indeed, but guess what! We have the 1 in 1/60466176 !! So there is 1 chance indeed!!

In other words, there exists many other "earthes" that are 1 cm closer to their "sun" that ours, or 1 cm further away, or rotating at a lesser rate.. etc ! But there exists our earth that had everything needed for this form of life. And who knows, maybe there exists other forms of life elsewhere! Maybe another form of life in another "earth" that is 1 cm closer to its "sun" !! who knows !

Dave, I am not trying to prove anything. This is only mathematics and probability.

Cheers.

1 chance ideed?....Let us wait and see...Until now i am right...Earth is unique from every aspect espscially that it contains smart humans such me and you LOL

[drmaalouf]

GeneralDave this is for your eyes, a few examples about the fine tuning of this universe, a few proof of intelligent design: (by Dr. Hugh Ross)

1. strong nuclear force constant
if larger: no hydrogen would form; atomic nuclei for most life-essential elements would be unstable; thus, no life chemistry
if smaller: no elements heavier than hydrogen would form: again, no life chemistry

2.weak nuclear force constant
if larger: too much hydrogen would convert to helium in big bang; hence, stars would convert too much matter into heavy elements making life chemistry impossible
if smaller: too little helium would be produced from big bang; hence, stars would convert too little matter into heavy elements making life chemistry impossible

3.gravitational force constant
if larger: stars would be too hot and would burn too rapidly and too unevenly for life chemistry
if smaller: stars would be too cool to ignite nuclear fusion; thus, many of the elements needed for life chemistry would never form

4.electromagnetic force constant
if greater: chemical bonding would be disrupted; elements more massive than boron would be unstable to fission
if lesser: chemical bonding would be insufficient for life chemistry

5.ratio of electromagnetic force constant to gravitational force constant
if larger: all stars would be at least 40% more massive than the sun; hence,stellar burning would be too brief and too uneven for life support
if smaller: all stars would be at least 20% less massive than the sun, thus incapable of producing heavy elements

6.ratio of electron to proton mass
if larger: chemical bonding would be insufficient for life chemistry
if smaller: same as above

7.ratio of number of protons to number of electrons
if larger: electromagnetism would dominate gravity, preventing galaxy, star, and planet formation
if smaller: same as above

8.expansion rate of the universe
if larger: no galaxies would form
if smaller: universe would collapse, even before stars formed

9.entropy level of the universe
if larger: stars would not form within proto-galaxies
if smaller: no proto-galaxies would form

10.mass density of the universe
if larger: overabundance of deuterium from big bang would cause stars to burn rapidly, too rapidly for life to form
if smaller: insufficient helium from big bang would result in a shortage of heavy elements

11.velocity of light
if faster: stars would be too luminous for life support
if slower: stars would be insufficiently luminous for life support

12.age of the universe
if older: no solar-type stars in a stable burning phase would exist in the right (for life) part of the galaxy
if younger: solar-type stars in a stable burning phase would not yet have formed

13.initial uniformity of radiation
if more uniform: stars, star clusters, and galaxies would not have formed
if less uniform: universe by now would be mostly black holes and empty space

14.average distance between galaxies
if larger: star formation late enough in the history of the universe would be hampered by lack of material
if smaller: gravitational tug-of-wars would destabilize the sun's orbit

15.density of galaxy cluster
if denser: galaxy collisions and mergers would disrupt the sun's orbit
if less dense: star formation late enough in the history of the universe would be hampered by lack of material

16.average distance between stars
if larger: heavy element density would be too sparse for rocky planets to form
if smaller: planetary orbits would be too unstable for life

17.fine structure constant (describing the fine-structure splitting of spectral lines) if larger: all stars would be at least 30% less massive than the sun
if larger than 0.06: matter would be unstable in large magnetic fields
if smaller: all stars would be at least 80% more massive than the sun

18.decay rate of protons
if greater: life would be exterminated by the release of radiation
if smaller: universe would contain insufficient matter for life

19.12C to 16O nuclear energy level ratio
if larger: universe would contain insufficient oxygen for life
if smaller: universe would contain insufficient carbon for life

20.ground state energy level for 4He
if larger: universe would contain insufficient carbon and oxygen for life
if smaller: same as above

21.decay rate of 8Be
if slower: heavy element fusion would generate catastrophic explosions in all the stars
if faster: no element heavier than beryllium would form; thus, no life chemistry

22.ratio of neutron mass to proton mass
if higher: neutron decay would yield too few neutrons for the formation of many life-essential elements
if lower: neutron decay would produce so many neutrons as to collapse all stars into neutron stars or black holes

23.initial excess of nucleons over anti-nucleons
if greater: radiation would prohibit planet formation
if lesser: matter would be insufficient for galaxy or star formation

24.polarity of the water molecule
if greater: heat of fusion and vaporization would be too high for life
if smaller: heat of fusion and vaporization would be too low for life; liquid water would not work as a solvent for life chemistry; ice would not float, and a runaway freeze-up would result

25.supernovae eruptions
if too close, too frequent, or too late: radiation would exterminate life on the planet
if too distant, too infrequent, or too soon: heavy elements would be too sparse for rocky planets to form

26.white dwarf binaries
if too few: insufficient fluorine would exist for life chemistry
if too many: planetary orbits would be too unstable for life
if formed too soon: insufficient fluorine production
if formed too late: fluorine would arrive too late for life chemistry

27.ratio of exotic matter mass to ordinary matter mass
if larger: universe would collapse before solar-type stars could form
if smaller: no galaxies would form

28.number of effective dimensions in the early universe
if larger: quantum mechanics, gravity, and relativity could not coexist; thus, life would be impossible
if smaller: same result

29.number of effective dimensions in the present universe
if smaller: electron, planet, and star orbits would become unstable
if larger: same result

30.mass of the neutrino
if smaller: galaxy clusters, galaxies, and stars would not form
if larger: galaxy clusters and galaxies would be too dense

31.big bang ripples
if smaller: galaxies would not form; universe would expand too rapidly
if larger: galaxies/galaxy clusters would be too dense for life; black holes would dominate; universe would collapse before life-site could form

32.size of the relativistic dilation factor
if smaller: certain life-essential chemical reactions will not function properly
if larger: same result

33.uncertainty magnitude in the Heisenberg uncertainty principle
if smaller: oxygen transport to body cells would be too small and certain life-essential elements would be unstable
if larger: oxygen transport to body cells would be too great and certain life-essential elements would be unstable

34.cosmological constant
if larger: universe would expand too quickly to form solar-type stars

The probability of all this happening on it's own, by random chance, is NEGLIGIBLE!

[Chrysostomos]

Originally Posted by drmaalouf

GeneralDave this is for your eyes, a few examples about the fine tuning of this universe, a few proof of intelligent design.

1. strong nuclear force constant
if larger: no hydrogen would form; atomic nuclei for most life-essential elements would be unstable; thus, no life chemistry
if smaller: no elements heavier than hydrogen would form: again, no life chemistry

2.weak nuclear force constant
if larger: too much hydrogen would convert to helium in big bang; hence, stars would convert too much matter into heavy elements making life chemistry impossible
if smaller: too little helium would be produced from big bang; hence, stars would convert too little matter into heavy elements making life chemistry impossible

3.gravitational force constant
if larger: stars would be too hot and would burn too rapidly and too unevenly for life chemistry
if smaller: stars would be too cool to ignite nuclear fusion; thus, many of the elements needed for life chemistry would never form

4.electromagnetic force constant
if greater: chemical bonding would be disrupted; elements more massive than boron would be unstable to fission
if lesser: chemical bonding would be insufficient for life chemistry

5.ratio of electromagnetic force constant to gravitational force constant
if larger: all stars would be at least 40% more massive than the sun; hence,stellar burning would be too brief and too uneven for life support
if smaller: all stars would be at least 20% less massive than the sun, thus incapable of producing heavy elements

6.ratio of electron to proton mass
if larger: chemical bonding would be insufficient for life chemistry
if smaller: same as above

7.ratio of number of protons to number of electrons
if larger: electromagnetism would dominate gravity, preventing galaxy, star, and planet formation
if smaller: same as above

8.expansion rate of the universe
if larger: no galaxies would form
if smaller: universe would collapse, even before stars formed

9.entropy level of the universe
if larger: stars would not form within proto-galaxies
if smaller: no proto-galaxies would form

10.mass density of the universe
if larger: overabundance of deuterium from big bang would cause stars to burn rapidly, too rapidly for life to form
if smaller: insufficient helium from big bang would result in a shortage of heavy elements

11.velocity of light
if faster: stars would be too luminous for life support
if slower: stars would be insufficiently luminous for life support

12.age of the universe
if older: no solar-type stars in a stable burning phase would exist in the right (for life) part of the galaxy
if younger: solar-type stars in a stable burning phase would not yet have formed

13.initial uniformity of radiation
if more uniform: stars, star clusters, and galaxies would not have formed
if less uniform: universe by now would be mostly black holes and empty space

14.average distance between galaxies
if larger: star formation late enough in the history of the universe would be hampered by lack of material
if smaller: gravitational tug-of-wars would destabilize the sun's orbit

15.density of galaxy cluster
if denser: galaxy collisions and mergers would disrupt the sun's orbit
if less dense: star formation late enough in the history of the universe would be hampered by lack of material

16.average distance between stars
if larger: heavy element density would be too sparse for rocky planets to form
if smaller: planetary orbits would be too unstable for life

17.fine structure constant (describing the fine-structure splitting of spectral lines) if larger: all stars would be at least 30% less massive than the sun
if larger than 0.06: matter would be unstable in large magnetic fields
if smaller: all stars would be at least 80% more massive than the sun

18.decay rate of protons
if greater: life would be exterminated by the release of radiation
if smaller: universe would contain insufficient matter for life

19.12C to 16O nuclear energy level ratio
if larger: universe would contain insufficient oxygen for life
if smaller: universe would contain insufficient carbon for life

20.ground state energy level for 4He
if larger: universe would contain insufficient carbon and oxygen for life
if smaller: same as above

21.decay rate of 8Be
if slower: heavy element fusion would generate catastrophic explosions in all the stars
if faster: no element heavier than beryllium would form; thus, no life chemistry

22.ratio of neutron mass to proton mass
if higher: neutron decay would yield too few neutrons for the formation of many life-essential elements
if lower: neutron decay would produce so many neutrons as to collapse all stars into neutron stars or black holes

23.initial excess of nucleons over anti-nucleons
if greater: radiation would prohibit planet formation
if lesser: matter would be insufficient for galaxy or star formation

24.polarity of the water molecule
if greater: heat of fusion and vaporization would be too high for life
if smaller: heat of fusion and vaporization would be too low for life; liquid water would not work as a solvent for life chemistry; ice would not float, and a runaway freeze-up would result

25.supernovae eruptions
if too close, too frequent, or too late: radiation would exterminate life on the planet
if too distant, too infrequent, or too soon: heavy elements would be too sparse for rocky planets to form

26.white dwarf binaries
if too few: insufficient fluorine would exist for life chemistry
if too many: planetary orbits would be too unstable for life
if formed too soon: insufficient fluorine production
if formed too late: fluorine would arrive too late for life chemistry

27.ratio of exotic matter mass to ordinary matter mass
if larger: universe would collapse before solar-type stars could form
if smaller: no galaxies would form

28.number of effective dimensions in the early universe
if larger: quantum mechanics, gravity, and relativity could not coexist; thus, life would be impossible
if smaller: same result

29.number of effective dimensions in the present universe
if smaller: electron, planet, and star orbits would become unstable
if larger: same result

30.mass of the neutrino
if smaller: galaxy clusters, galaxies, and stars would not form
if larger: galaxy clusters and galaxies would be too dense

31.big bang ripples
if smaller: galaxies would not form; universe would expand too rapidly
if larger: galaxies/galaxy clusters would be too dense for life; black holes would dominate; universe would collapse before life-site could form

32.size of the relativistic dilation factor
if smaller: certain life-essential chemical reactions will not function properly
if larger: same result

33.uncertainty magnitude in the Heisenberg uncertainty principle
if smaller: oxygen transport to body cells would be too small and certain life-essential elements would be unstable
if larger: oxygen transport to body cells would be too great and certain life-essential elements would be unstable

34.cosmological constant
if larger: universe would expand too quickly to form solar-type stars

The probability of all this happening on it's own, by random chance, is NEGLIGIBLE!

WOW...I am AMAZED...You keep amazing us Dr. Maalouf.
God bless

[lebanesecanadian]

To Dr. maalouf,

so now you're proving the intelligent design theory??????

The intelligent design theory is rejected by the slashing majority of scientists. Most even don't consider it neither a theory nor a science. It's simply a backdoor to introducing God to the science class. The evolution theory is the one accepted by the scientific community, just like the relativity or the gravity theory is. It's not abt a guess, and it's not abt random chance. There are a lot of supporting evidence involved. As i said before, leave science to science and Faith to Faith. And personnaly I don't see any contradiction between what science tells me and what the Bible tells me, so no need to invent new theories.


Regards,