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The UNICEF statement on gender equality, particularly on gender discrimination:

"Discrimination robs girls and women of the the power to make decisions, to earn a living and to be free from violence, abuse and exploitation. Often it deprives them of any legal protection.
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By recognizing and addressing discrimination against girls and women, success in the fight against all forms of discrimination -- class, race, ethnicity and age -- will become more likely, and more lasting. We have learned that entire societies develop when girls and women are enabled to be fully contributing community members."


Gender equality is a highly debated issue, and often interpreted in various ways.

What does it mean to you? How do you see the role of women and men in society? Do you support granting the women equal rights, on the fields of education, employment, marital issues, political life?

On the personal level, as a man how do you treat women/ your wife? Do you give her equal voice, do you support her aspirations?

As a woman how are you treated by men, do you feel yourself oppressed, or did you face any discrimantion?
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The UNICEF statement on gender equality, particularly on gender discrimination:

"Discrimination robs girls and women of the the power to make decisions, to earn a living and to be free from violence, abuse and exploitation. Often it deprives them of any legal protection.
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By recognizing and addressing discrimination against girls and women, success in the fight against all forms of discrimination -- class, race, ethnicity and age -- will become more likely, and more lasting. We have learned that entire societies develop when girls and women are enabled to be fully contributing community members."


Gender equality is a highly debated issue, and often interpreted in various ways.

What does it mean to you? How do you see the role of women and men in society? Do you support granting the women equal rights, on the fields of education, employment, marital issues, political life?

On the personal level, as a man how do you treat women/ your wife? Do you give her equal voice, do you support her aspirations?

As a woman how are you treated by men, do you feel yourself oppressed, or did you face any discrimantion?

I would love to see one day that women will be equal to men on earth on every field you mentioned. Women have gained alot of power in the 20th century specially in education, employment and marital issues. There are laws that protects women from descrimination specially in the western world. I am not too sure about Lebanon because there are still issues on who keeps the kids if there is a divorce. In the political life, I think most of the women do not like that field that much since we dont have many of them in politics even in he western societies. We are seing a colored person Obama who is the president of the most powerful state, maybe the next president will be a woman, who knows. I think we are gaining more and more power.

I have to add that on the education side, you will see more women studying in universities than men specially in the medicine field. In the science section (specially in engenering, you will see very few women), lets face it, there are subjects that intrest more men than women and vice-versa but in my opinion, we have gained alot of power since the 30s and we will gain more and more. I am not too sure what will happen in the islamic states such as afghanistan and other countries were women are not very protected from laws against their descriminitation. Lets wait and see.
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The UNICEF statement on gender equality, particularly on gender discrimination:

"Discrimination robs girls and women of the the power to make decisions, to earn a living and to be free from violence, abuse and exploitation. Often it deprives them of any legal protection.
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By recognizing and addressing discrimination against girls and women, success in the fight against all forms of discrimination -- class, race, ethnicity and age -- will become more likely, and more lasting. We have learned that entire societies develop when girls and women are enabled to be fully contributing community members."


Gender equality is a highly debated issue, and often interpreted in various ways.

What does it mean to you? How do you see the role of women and men in society? Do you support granting the women equal rights, on the fields of education, employment, marital issues, political life?

On the personal level, as a man how do you treat women/ your wife? Do you give her equal voice, do you support her aspirations?

As a woman how are you treated by men, do you feel yourself oppressed, or did you face any discrimantion?
Nowadays women can vote,contribute in every aspect including culture and economy.In many western countries women have gained greater equality ,freedom and choice,and even awarded equal pay for work of equal value>Most of the jobs can be done by both gender and can achieve same results .Girls even have higher education than boys these days .
I believe in some countries women are still treated badly and deprived from their rights which i find it really wrong and hope one day they fight for their rights and earn it...Of course i support granting women total equality in everything..As a woman i am treated really well by men..Women should have also the right to have custody after divorce in some countries she has no right to keep her kids this isn't fair for the mum nor the kids..
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Equality might be a misleading word, and sadly many women interpret it wrong and think it makes them look stronger if they appear more masculine.

By equality I wouldnt mean erasing the difference in appearance and behaviour, but more on a social and humanistic level.

In many developing countries women have no say in social life, and are not considered equal human beings. Though it might seem like these are the extreme cases, but sadly it concerns the majority of the women in this world. Seemingly it takes generations to break through the fabric of these traditional societies.

Now back to the more modern societies, even there the picture varies by culture. In some cultures the women are more acceptive, and are in peace with their silent role, and give way to the men to lead. In others, they demand equal participation and aspire for leading positions.

How do you see the cases when a woman's aspiration might conflict with family? Would strong traditions and social roles win over in the end, and the woman has to seek compromise and give up on self aspirations?
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The UNICEF statement on gender equality, particularly on gender discrimination:

"Discrimination robs girls and women of the the power to make decisions, to earn a living and to be free from violence, abuse and exploitation. Often it deprives them of any legal protection.
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By recognizing and addressing discrimination against girls and women, success in the fight against all forms of discrimination -- class, race, ethnicity and age -- will become more likely, and more lasting. We have learned that entire societies develop when girls and women are enabled to be fully contributing community members".

Gender equality is a highly debated issue, and often interpreted in various ways.
The right for women to be women and the right for men to be men. That should sum up my understanding of equality. I don't like to see women turning masculine or men turning feminine. Does this make sense?

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How do you see the role of women and men in society? Do you support granting the women equal rights, on the fields of education, employment, marital issues, political life?
Behind every great man is a great woman ;) Mothers create societies, if they're not properly created :P, society is bound to rot.

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Men treat women better than women treat women, no? No, i've never felt opressed and I've never faced any discrimination based on gender.

On another note, societies that oppress women are just as bad as societies that use women as objects and legalize prostitution. I don't call those modern, I call them rotten. It's funny how women think that they're given 'freedom' or 'equality' when they are used in such a cheap manner. If you want to consider a woman as an equal, you start by treating her with respect.

Thank you for this thread Salome.

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Women should have also the right to have custody after divorce in some countries she has no right to keep her kids this isn't fair for the mum nor the kids..
Islamic law gives men custody over chidlren (at a certain age) because it's a man's responsibility to financially support the children who carry his name. I don't believe that a woman should have custody over her children just like that, blindly; rather each divorce case should be dealt with separately. If the kids are in better hands with their father, then they should be with him; if they're in better hands with the mother, then they should be with her. As a judge, I wouldn't like to see kids being raised by a morally bankrupt mother/father (for example). If they're both not worth having children, then the kids should be taken from them. (Assuming that we have a proper fair and just legal system).
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How Many genders are there in the world?
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Inequality/discrimination/blablablabla

Now seriously, this is becoming like the Holocaust thingy. Stop milking a story that used to happen 50 years in the past just to obtain green lights to do whatever you please
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How Many genders are there in the world?
Assuming that gender is defined by 'how we feel' as well as our assets, there would be 6 human genders: Male, female, hemaphrodite, gay, lesbian, and transexual. And between them all we are lost in translation :D
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While it is not solely limited to biological sex, most societies tend to have binary gender systems, male and female. But some seem to include a third gender. Check the two-spirit people upon native Americans, pretty much interesting !
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On another note, societies that oppress women are just as bad as societies that use women as objects and legalize prostitution. I don't call those modern, I call them rotten. It's funny how women think that they're given 'freedom' or 'equality' when they are used in such a cheap manner. If you want to consider a woman as an equal, you start by treating her with respect.
I guess at least there is more potential in that so called modern societies, where you have a system of legal protection already, and all those side effects can be cured. While in other societies where women are treated as second grade humans, there women are not just abused (and we can mention here the widespread of forced prostitution) but also left unprotected by the law.



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My dictionary says only two, based on the present human conditions.


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Inequality/discrimination/blablablabla

It's ok, everybody can have bad moments, I would still grant you that you have more intelligent comments than these 3 words.


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Now seriously, this is becoming like the Holocaust thingy. Stop milking a story that used to happen 50 years in the past just to obtain green lights to do whatever you please

now great for this longer comment, but what are you talking about? are you sure you are in the right thread?
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