freedom

[coralie]

i was wondering what is freedom ? is it a total anarchy of the mind the soul and the body ? does it have boundries ? do freedom of a person should cease when it hurt others and step on their rights, honor , beliefs ?

this essay is intresting .

By Julie Watner


Freedom is a mental condition-a condition of the spirit. All of us are free, if we but choose to acknowledge it. To borrow from Rose Wilder Lane, freedom is control of self. The essence of your "self" is your mind, soul, and spirit. We all are always free to change our thoughts, improve our knowledge and understanding, change our attitudes and beliefs-the inner part of each of us. We do need more folks to recognize that they already are FREE!

Liberty is a condition of the physical body: the absence of physical restraints. We seek liberty to use our resources, time, intelligence, and energy in the most beneficial (to us) way.

A productive, healthy society of freedom-and liberty-minded individuals is not to be confused with a libertine one. The conditions of liberty and freedom, above all, require individual responsibility in every phase of life. Each of us must take the consequences of our actions, good and bad. This is not easy, especially with our Big Brother the State standing by to present at least the illusion of "help" with every aspect of our lives.

Because the root of the problem (irresponsibility) is so ingrained, trying to convince others to live the freedom ideas through slogans, speeches, and hype is usually short on results. At best they provide the spark which causes an individual to seek out new information.

The "library of freedom"-books, pamphlets, newspapers, and magazines-not only documents man's quest from ancient times forward, but also is an important, longer lasting way to spread the word and fan the spark of interest into a flame.

But "plain-Jane" and unexciting as it sounds, I believe the most effective way to spread the freedom idea is to educate ourselves and raise our children to be honest, knowledgeable, confident, responsible lovers of freedom-to light a single candle. If each one of us lights another candle, and each of those follows suit, the freedom ideas will grow from a quiet bonfire to a WILDFIRE engulfing everything in its path.

Living in an environment of liberty and freedom is akin to being a parent-it is the best of times; it is the worst of times. With neither can you ever relax your vigilance, there is always work to be done, you are always being called upon to exercise new skills, and improve upon old ones. There is a tremendous amount of worry involved, also discouragement and uncertainty. On the other hand, it is hard to convey to a non-parent, just as to a statist, the joys, rewards, exhilaration, and satisfactions that make the responsibilities worthwhile. You just have to have faith, jump in, and DO IT!

how do you live your freedom ? and do you think you should stop at some point when you feel your freedom is steping on other's rights? is freedom granted or involve a big amount of responsabilities ?

[Stella]

Julie summerized up its essence very well, I agree with it fully.

Freedom requires taking responsibility indeed however can you feel yourself truly free within a society? /regardless of the type of regime now/ As society has its regulations on individuals, or is there a fine line, where above you your freedom is violated?

[coralie]

stella regardless of your society how do you live your freedom when you act withing this society or/and toward others . this is the main question how do we use our freedom ? are we able to do a self controle ? or we simply over use our freedom to its extend ? are we able to stop when others rights are in stake or we simply dont care ?

[Stella]

Originally Posted by coralie

stella regardless of your society how do you live your freedom when you act withing this society or/and toward others . this is the main question how do we use our freedom ? are we able to do a self controle ? or we simply over use our freedom to its extend ? are we able to stop when others rights are in stake or we simply dont care ?

Well the society has a constraint though, I can not do whatever I want within the society, even if its a liberal democratic one.

One shall have self control of course, if doesnt then the person is facing law, and the authorities are dealing with him. So thats why I was referring to the society as imposing regulations on the individuels. So of course you are not allowed to violate the rules, and violate other's rights.

Question is how to draw the regulations to not to constrain personal freedom, or at least not considerably?

[Omeros]

لا حرية في هذا العالم وكذب من يقول ان حيتي تتوقف عند حرية الاخرين وهو انسان رجعي ....فالواقع ليس كذلك الواقع هو البقاء للاقوى ...انا حريتي هي في ضميري ...فهو صوت العقل وابن المنطق يعرف الخطا من الصواب وهو وحده الحر لانه مرتبط بمبادئ وبافكار عقلانية ....حريتي هي في الحب فمن يحب لا ياسر ...حريتي هي انا ...وانا ان حرة فغيري فلا بالتالي لا حرية في العالم هي تسبية تختلف النظرة اليها من فرد لاخر ..بالنتيجة لا حرية في المطلق

[Akhwat belmarra]

Originally Posted by Omeros

لا حرية في هذا العالم وكذب من يقول ان حيتي تتوقف عند حرية الاخرين وهو انسان رجعي ....فالواقع ليس كذلك الواقع هو البقاء للاقوى ...انا حريتي هي في ضميري ...فهو صوت العقل وابن المنطق يعرف الخطا من الصواب وهو وحده الحر لانه مرتبط بمبادئ وبافكار عقلانية ....حريتي هي في الحب فمن يحب لا ياسر ...حريتي هي انا ...وانا ان حرة فغيري فلا بالتالي لا حرية في العالم هي تسبية تختلف النظرة اليها من فرد لاخر ..بالنتيجة لا حرية في المطلق

Could you explain what you mean by the highlighted red part please, in Arabic?
Do you mean that if someone loves another he or she will not deprive them of their freedom, the freedom they had before falling in love? Or maybe you mean jealousy?

[Omeros]

Originally Posted by Akhwat belmarra

Could you explain what you mean by the highlighted red part please, in Arabic?
Do you mean that if someone loves another he or she will not deprive them of their freedom, the freedom they had before falling in love? Or maybe you mean jealousy?

first ....i like ur nick name :D ( akhwat bel marra:D)
second:

حريتي هي في الحب
هذه فلسفتي في الحياة فعليا ....فمن يحب لا يخنق ...من يحب لا يشد الخناق ..يترك الحرية المطلقة للاخر ...يترك الاخر حرا ...يتركه كما هو
الحرية قبل الوقوع بالحب او بعده ليس من المفترض ان نحرم منها ..بالعكس وان حرمنا من بعضها ..تكون باسم الحب وبارادة الطرف وليس اكراها وهنا المفهوم الخاطئ في هذا العالم ...فان انا تخليت عن حريتي ليس لانك يا رجل اردت ذلك بل لانني انا رايت من الانسب ان افعل ذلك ففعلت من اجل حبي لك ...وهذه ايضا نوع من حرية الخيار

والغيرة ليست قيد بالعكس هي اجمل ما في العلاقة ....هي شعلة تشعل الحب بذاته

[Omeros]

Originally Posted by Stella

Julie summerized up its essence very well, I agree with it fully.

Freedom requires taking responsibility indeed however can you feel yourself truly free within a society? /regardless of the type of regime now/ As society has its regulations on individuals, or is there a fine line, where above you your freedom is violated?

its not true ya stella always we violate the freedom of others cz the way of other see the world is not our way ..so what we see as A GOOd and freedom for the other houe naheb ou ser2a
its depend from person 2 other and btw from this subjct we have problems and war

[coralie]

what about freedom of speech ?
is it a wide open door that allow every thing from insults to personal attacks to bashing and ...and... is this freedom or a kind of low level chaos ?
do our education play a role in our freedom i mean education help us put self boundries in a way that our freedom is delivered in a respectful way for both others and ourselves ?
for exemple if i am pissed of from a person how will i deal with the issue ? is it "freedom of speech" to insult the peson using the worst low termology ? or i can still be free when i deal with the issue with a certain class that reflect my standards and my true freedom based on self respect and wisdom ? education and our serounding can play a role ?

[Omeros]

what about freedom of speech ?

as i said on tv once .....
انا لا انتظر ان يعطوني حريتي في التعبير لان من حريتي ان اعبر وهمي ليس كيف يتقبلون الفكرة همي ان اقول الراي ...اقول كلمتي وامشي ...واحاول قدر المستطاع ان تخرق القلب وان كان بطريقة عنيفة احيانا
ان انتظرت الاخرين لاتكلم فلن افعل ابدا ...علينا ان نقول لكن لكل مقام مقال
في النهاية البقاء للاقوى فكريا ..واحيانا بالشخصية ..اذا لا نفرض الحرية قد لا نتحرر ابدا

is it a wide open door that allow every thing from insults to personal attacks to bashing and ...and... is this freedom or a kind of low level chaos ?

لا احبذ التعدي او التجريح قد اجرح لكن بدبلوماسية ....قد استعمل ما لا يستعمل من الاهانات لكن بلغة راقية تجعل الاخر مجبر على التقبل

do our education play a role in our freedom i mean education help us put self boundries in a way that our freedom is delivered in a respectful way for both others and ourselves ?

ان الثقافة هي من تحرر وليس العلم ....الثقافة تجعل الفرد سامي التفكير غير مادي وغير مرتبط بالفكر المعتاد ...بالتالي هو حر لانه يختلف فهو من اصحاب العقول الحرة

for exemple if i am pissed of from a person how will i deal with the issue ?

latche zghyre would be enought .....somtimes u cant control ur reaction but in general latche zghyre after all we are human and our nature mean "no control" but with time the person learn how 2 control the reaction