Forgiveness

[Faithful]

Originally Posted by DL

Two things I can never forgive others (or even myself) if they were done:

1. Lying - all types included - no matter what the reasons are!

2. Cheating!

DL, when you don't forgive them, you won't talk to them anymore? is that what you mean? what about if you love them ? Don't you think that they deserve another chance ?

[Abufijli]

Originally Posted by faithful

DL, when you don't forgive them, you won't talk to them anymore? is that what you mean? what about if you love them ? Don't you think that they deserve another chance ?

Men and Women usually view cheating differently.

I can still have feelings for my partner if she cheated on me, but I sure as hell will never forgive or forget it, no second chance in that area.

But a woman can usually forgive a man, I have seen this happen repeatedly. I guess women are more forgiving than us.

[DL]

Originally Posted by faithful

DL, when you don't forgive them, you won't talk to them anymore? is that what you mean? what about if you love them ? Don't you think that they deserve another chance ?

In the case of lying, then I wil take my distance and may be cut any intimate relation I could have ever had with them!

In the case of cheating, it will be a straightforward goodbye. Unless we were married and had children together. In this case, a solution needs to be found to guarantee the children's best interests.

Mind you - I would behave in the same manner if I lied or cheated on someone else. Ya3ni I will have no more respect to myself to be able to continue no matter what the sacrifices migth be!

[Faithful]

Abufijli and DL,

I know that lying and cheating are very bad habits and when it come from the persons we really love and trust, it will really hurts.

But when i talked about forgiving , i didn't mean that once you forgive a person ya3ni you must see him again or renew the relation. A lot of times we forgive just to be able to forget. Then we stop seing these persons because we don't trust them anymore. So khalliyoun b3ad a7ssan.
But in that case we will be free of them because we don't have any feelings for them anymore, neither love nor hate and anger. Are you getting my point?

I also what to ask something, when anyone refuse to forgive persons, does he really live his life normally as they don't exist? or they will always have some effects on his life even in their absence.?

[DL]

Originally Posted by faithful

Abufijli and DL,

I know that lying and cheating are very bad habits and when it come from the persons we really love and trust, it will really hurts.

But when i talked about forgiving , i didn't mean that once you forgive a person ya3ni you must see him again or renew the relation. A lot of times we forgive just to be able to forget. Then we stop seing these persons because we don't trust them anymore. So khalliyoun b3ad a7ssan.
But in that case we will be free of them because we don't have any feelings for them anymore, neither love nor hate and anger. Are you getting my point?

I also what to ask something, when anyone refuse to forgive persons, does he really live his life normally as they don't exist? or they will always have some effects on his life even in their absence.?

Faithful,

You can never forgive cheating - and I mean NEVER!

Even if you say you forget, the next time you see the person, you cant but think about what they have done to THEMSELVES first and then to you!

For anyone who think about cheating: Dont ever do it...

[coralie]

Originally Posted by DL

Two things I can never forgive others (or even myself) if they were done:

1. Lying - all types included - no matter what the reasons are!

2. Cheating!

same here ... 2 things in life i cant forgive because they hurt too much .

Mahatma Ghadi said forgiveness is the quality of the strong well i guess i am not that strong and there is things in life i simply cant forgive because i cant forget !
"I can forgive, but I cannot forget, is only another way of saying, I will not forgive. Forgiveness ought to be like a cancelled note - torn in two, and burned up, so that it never can be shown against one.
-- Henry Ward Beecher."

[Faithful]

Originally Posted by DL

Faithful,

You can never forgive cheating - and I mean NEVER!

Even if you say you forget, the next time you see the person, you cant but think about what they have done to THEMSELVES first and then to you!

For anyone who think about cheating: Dont ever do it...

Of course loyalty and honesty are very precious and very important and one of the basis of any relationship. Personnaly i cant lie or cheat, because first i will be lying and cheating to myself before others, and i never did it and i will never do.

I never faced such thing , but i disagree with you with the words in bold, i feel that if you want to forgive you will be able to forgive anything. But this is just me.

[DL]

Originally Posted by faithful

Of course loyalty and honesty are very precious and very important and one of the basis of any relationship. Personnaly i cant lie or cheat, because first i will be lying and cheating to myself before others, and i never did it and i will never do.

I never faced such thing , but i disagree with you with the words in bold, i feel that if you want to forgive you will be able to forgive anything. But this is just me.

I honestly wish you not to ever face this situation of either cheating or being cheated at! I prefer that you would disagree with me rather than you taste the bitterness of this situation!

[Faithful]

Originally Posted by coralie

same here ... 2 things in life i cant forgive because they hurt too much .

Mahatma Ghadi said forgiveness is the quality of the strong well i guess i am not that strong and there is things in life i simply cant forgive because i cant forget !
"I can forgive, but I cannot forget, is only another way of saying, I will not forgive. Forgiveness ought to be like a cancelled note - torn in two, and burned up, so that it never can be shown against one.
-- Henry Ward Beecher."

Coralie, i agree with you when you said: i can forgive but i cant forget.

What i meant about forgetting is that when you see or remember the person who hurt you, you won't feel the same pain anymore if you forgave him. And not to totally forget what he did to you. But his effect on you will change.

Inno why you must feel the pain to the rest of your life? he doesn't deserve to spend all your energy on anger and hate. Its like he owns you for the rest of your life. Are you getting me?

[coralie]

Originally Posted by faithful

Of course loyalty and honesty are very precious and very important and one of the basis of any relationship. Personnaly i cant lie or cheat, because first i will be lying and cheating to myself before others, and i never did it and i will never do.

I never faced such thing , but i disagree with you with the words in bold, i feel that if you want to forgive you will be able to forgive anything. But this is just me.

i sincerely wish you never have to go through that cheating can hurt much more then you can imagine . it can destroy your trust for ever how can you forgive that ?