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Default Five Lebanese Muslim girls barred from tourney vows to wear hijab - 16th April 2007

Quebec tae kwon do team knocked out for wearing hijab
BERTRAND MAROTTE

With a report from Canadian Press

MONTREAL -- Five young girls were suddenly thrust into Quebec's controversy over the rights of religious minorities yesterday when they weren't allowed to compete in a local tae kwon do meet unless they removed their Islamic head scarves.

The girls, between the ages of 10 and 14, had trained for days and were eagerly anticipating competing for medals at the competition in Longueuil, south of Montreal.

The members of the Montreal team were told they couldn't participate unless they removed their head scarves for safety reasons.

However, organizers from the Muslim community centre that sponsors them say they were at the same event in previous years and there was no problem whatsoever with their garments.

The incident -- the girls and their coaches refused to comply and were joined by the 10 members of the Muslim boys club who snubbed the event in a sympathy protest -- was a sharp reminder that the issue of so-called reasonable accommodation of religious minorities continues to simmer in Quebec.

It also has unfortunate similarities to a recent incident in the Montreal area in which an 11-year old Muslim girl from Ottawa was expelled by a referee from a soccer game for wearing a hijab, again for safety reasons.

Other, related, events have included protests after a Montreal YMCA agreed to install frosted windows to obscure the sight of females working out in scanty outfits that offended neighbouring conservative Jews, and a code of conduct enacted by the small town of Hérouxville solemnly banning the stoning of women.

"I was really very angry," rebuffed tae kwon do competitor Bissan Mansour, 11, told a local television network at the event.

"I find this unjust," said fellow team member Datoul Atwi, 12.

For Bassam Hussein, the only way to explain the apparent reversal on the wearing of the hijab by the provincial tae kwon do association is the public backlash against reasonable accommodation.

That backlash has played into the popularity of Mario Dumont's Action démocratique du Québec, newly elected as the province's Official Opposition.

"The whole discussion about reasonable accommodation that has been taking place in Quebec has contributed to this, big time," said Mr. Hussein, the president of the executive committee of the Centre Communautaire Musulman de Montréal, which backs the boys' and girls' tae kwon do clubs.

"It used to be very normal, very natural [to wear the hijab at sporting events]. Now, everyone is second-guessing this," he added, pointing out there is no danger of a choking or grabbing incident involving head scarves in tae kwon do, given the fact that the hijab is almost completely out of reach under the mandatory helmet.

"It's not something that was there before, it was never an issue. Now it's being politicized," he said.

Women from Indonesia, Iran, Egypt and other Muslim countries routinely participate in international tae kwon do competitions and are not banned from wearing the hijab, according to Mr. Hussein.

The danger is that seemingly unreasonable hijab bans will only succeed in alienating members of religious minorities when all they want is to be accepted as full members of society by joining activities such as tae kwon do, he said.

Jean Faucher, president of the Fédération de Tae kwondo du Québec and the individual responsible for yesterday's ban on the hijab, says he isn't at all happy about being thrust into the controversy.

"I don't want to get into religious issues. I'm not a racist," he said. "I understand they're disappointed. We're not shutting the door on the Muslim community, we're just enforcing the rules and regulations that are there to be respected."

The Muslim team's coaches and organizers have been invited to attend the next meeting of the tae kwon do association to discuss the issue and explore possible solutions, he said.

Mr. Faucher said there may well have been previous meets at which girls wearing the hijab were allowed to compete, but a few lapses in enforcement are no excuse to ignore the rulebook entirely.

Gael Texier, the girls' coach, said the issue will have to go all the way to the sport's governing body, the World Tae Kwon Do Federation.

"We'll have to take a stand," she said.

International referee Stéphane Ménard says the girls weren't allowed to take part in yesterday's event because the sport's rules don't allow hijabs.

Tournament organizer Raymond Mourad says he wanted officials to let the Muslim girls compete yesterday and warn them of the rule for next time, but his pleas went unheard.

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For a long time, Quebec society was very accomodating to religious and cultural minorities but some of these especially the orthodox jews and some muslim groups took advantage of this to make ridiculous demands and there is a feeling now among Quebeckers that their social values and way of life are threatened by some people in the name of their religious beliefs which explains the backlash against religious minorities in Quebec.
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Who is a Quebecois?
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games have rules...

the only football player allowed to wear pants is the goalkeeper...

all others have to wear shorts...

i dont see this as discrimination... i wont allow a guy wearing a gallabieh to play in my football team... or wearing 3gal...

i tae kwon doe, all ur allowed to wear are pants, a jaket and some special socks if u like... some underwear shirt maybe, but nothing more... a girl has to tightly tie her hair if it's long...

why is wearing a hat in class not allowed, whereas wearing a full head cover (7ijab) is allowed??

many logical questions that dont really have to do with religion...

what if a girl hides some earphones with some recording in her 7ijab and cheats in an exam?? no one would discover that...

i guess i gave u an excellent way to cheat, huh?? now christian girls will put a veil throughout the semester :-)
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Who is a Quebecois?
Quebecois is to Quebec as Lebanese (citizen) is to Lebanon.
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syrian, gellabieh or 3egal is different than hijab. One is a religious duty, the others are not.

Now I am sure the argument here is not about Canadian's values rather than tae kwon doe rules.

As far as I know Canada is one of the best countries with human rights records, but was the reason of their refusal due to Canadian's values or tae kwon doe rules ?

I thnk its the latter however the question is should we ammend tae kwon doe rules to accomodate hijab ?

Why would you ban me from tae kwon doe if I happen to be a Muslim girl who follows my religion ?
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For a long time, Quebec society was very accomodating to religious and cultural minorities but some of these especially the orthodox jews and some muslim groups took advantage of this to make ridiculous demands and there is a feeling now among Quebeckers that their social values and way of life are threatened by some people in the name of their religious beliefs which explains the backlash against religious minorities in Quebec.
I don't buy such comments; if a group or two does some bad things, that has nothing to do with what a religion tells you to wear. What values are threatened? Shou "a group of minorities" is gonna take over their coutnry or something? The backlash against Muslims has more serious political reasons. Every single thing that goes on anywhere in the world is traced back to September 11 and the Middle East Muslim vs Zionit conflict. And Orthodox Jews... Muslims... what do they have in common?

Btw, it's amazing how most Lebanese Canadians on this forum hold similar opinions. It's interesting to know how the world functions there.
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Separation of church and state is universally more important than freedom of religion.

In a question of your right to hold whatever religious beliefs you choose conflicting with someone else's right to not have your beliefs forced upon them, their right ALWAYS supersedes your own.

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Morpheus, I do not see how this relates to the topic ? How is allowing wearing hijab while playing tae kwan doe forcing religious beliefs on the others ?

Maybe I misunderstood something ?
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Mahyar,

If one considers Hijab as a means of Daawa, then it applies as preaching religion within a civil context (sports), that is unacceptable in a secular setting IMO; those who introduced those secular laws were looking at the whole picture and not at the simple issue of someone wearing a piece of cloth at a sports game or not.
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