Does he need to be rich?

[shadow1]

Originally Posted by Nayla

Maybe I won't love a rich man, but when I'll think of marriage, he sure needs to be rich.

I agree. if you marry a rich man you can afford to find saomeone you love a lot more easily.

No, it matters for me cz I'm not planning to spend my life 2eddem beb l jemi3 aw l kniseh

Especially now with only poor people going to church or jeme3.

Who told you that? Diamonds aren't our unique friends.. there's the shoes too

It's a material world we live in. You might as well include the whole wardrobe. This way you'd never feel lonely ever.

[freedom4ever]

Originally Posted by Orange angel

Wel if you GF truly loves you, she'll wait for you to grow a carreer, while building her own ... She doesn't have to say anything, i'm sure you won't accept to get married unless you can provide her a decent living...

Sure i wont accept to marry if i cannot afford the basic for living,
I do believe in growing up together, in fact i am interested to have a female that is ready to do this, and if i was rich i would look for someone like this, if she expecting me to bring her Gold spoons, well she shall leave me now,
Felle7 w eben felle7 im building myself from zero, i working in the most dangerous place in the world so i can afford my studies.

But sometimes we have to be realistic, i need at least 2 years so i can start building my self seriously and this process will take at least 5 years time in Lebanon,
adding 7 years to a girls age isnt easy.

[shadow1]

Originally Posted by Orange angel

I got prostitution in it as some sort of indirect mentality. Men pay prositutes to have sex with them.. isn't it the same when a guy buys a woman some dinner, with the intention of getting under her pants??

Sure if she is not going to get any pleasure of it. and It's a good idea he finds that out before he pays for too many dinners.

In "memorable" it can be a very nice conversation, getting to know eachother, not necessarily something physical, right??

Memorable is what gives the optimal satisfaction.

Thankyou ... we're gona share everything for the rest of our lives, so this is the minimum..

And as for the maximum? Or is it that loves knows no bounds?

No, simply because he didn't let me and we were still in the "7aya" stage

The age of innocence! Memories!

(p.s: we have memorable fights about me insisting to pay and ebding up "netjarras" in the restaurant ). Later on though, he started accepting invittions from me...

Even men become less immune to wisdom eventually.

Well, i never said that manly desire is not normal, of course it is, and so is our desire for the guy we're dating. But there's a difference between longing to kiss your date and wating to get under her pants! believe e, women sense that... no Jerk can ever fool an intelligent woman.

People have all sorts of sexual fetishes and one whou try a variety of them to see what suits their desires best.

mazbout but they didn't really express it that way...

Allabeebou mina l isharati yafhamou.

You know, not everything has a price... good moments do not necessarily have to be bought... you can go to Marina if you feel like it, sit on a bench and remain hours, just discussing and laughing... Innocent and fresh moments like those are the most memorable for me...

If you havent heard it or read it before Oscar Wilde once said: "A cynic is someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing"

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by freemind

In the first place, there was no reason that men felt so financialy concerned; a woman has a job nowadays, at times she has a job better-payed than the guy; there is no reason why the guy should be paying, unless she's a cheap girl he's looking to buy off.

Wrong honey, the "man" pays. It's sissy of him to have the "lady" pay for him. Ste7o

I was once told that being low on money is a turn off though; i know sex will push her down the cliff in the end as much as it'll push me.

Make sure you don't hurt your head as you tumble down that cliff.

[Orange angel]

Originally Posted by freedom4ever

Sure i wont accept to marry if i cannot afford the basic for living,
I do believe in growing up together, in fact i am interested to have a female that is ready to do this, and if i was rich i would look for someone like this, if she expecting me to bring her Gold spoons, well she shall leave me now,
Felle7 w eben felle7 im building myself from zero, i working in the most dangerous place in the world so i can afford my studies.

But sometimes we have to be realistic, i need at least 2 years so i can start building my self seriously and this process will take at least 5 years time in Lebanon,
adding 7 years to a girls age isnt easy.

I know, it's a long time, however:
1- it'll be ok if she's kinda young, meaning 18-19. in seven years she'll be 25/26, which is a very good age for marriage... i'v got a friend who met the love of her life when she was 18. They've been together for 7 years and they got recently engaged, her wedding is next summer... so u c it's not impossible.
2- Maybe 7 years are too much, don't you think? sometimes a person succeeds much faster than he thinks... and in worse cases, if you both really wana get together, no need to buy a house just now, just rent one, and buy later, when ur financially ready...

I'm telling you all this becoz i'v lived it... believe me it's possible

Cheers

[shadow1]

Originally Posted by Orange angel

Wel if you GF truly loves you, she'll wait for you to grow a carreer, while building her own ...

And make sure he builds his before she builds hers. Otherwise she will be the one who will have to provide him with a decent living And khidi 3a torbee7 jmili sa3eta.

She doesn't have to say anything, i'm sure you won't accept to get married unless you can provide her a decent living...

[Orange angel]

Originally Posted by shadow1

If you havent heard it or read it before Oscar Wilde once said: "A cynic is someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing"

hahaha you sure do seem cynical ... mmm not my thing lol i believe in having faith. I'v had many many chances to be as cynical as you are, due to several heartaches, but faith in life and love made me hold on... dunno, it's a different perspective...

[Orange angel]

Originally Posted by shadow1

And make sure he builds his before she builds hers. Otherwise she will be the one who will have to provide him with a decent living And khidi 3a torbee7 jmili sa3eta.

hahaha 7abbeit fekret terbi7 el jmile... unfortunately, there's no such thing when there's true love...
There's a person i know... the first 2 years of his marriage, he was jobless, at home, taking care of the children and the house while his wife was working. She never nagged about it or said anything. After that he found a job, and now, several years later he opened a factory and is a millionaire... when you do love one another, you help your partner and share everything. There's no such thing as a "constant" situation, as in the man MUST be always working, NEVER take care of the house, never cook or take care of the kidz... aslan this concept is changing a lot nowadays, men and women are starting to tasks more and more...

[shadow1]

Originally Posted by Orange angel

hahaha you sure do seem cynical ... mmm not my thing lol i believe in having faith. I'v had many many chances to be as cynical as you are, due to several heartaches, but faith in life and love made me hold on... dunno, it's a different perspective...

Let's not go overboard. i had few candlelit dinners, strolls on the beaches and walks in moonlit dark alleys. We even gazed into each other's eyes and felt breathless and ovewhelmed by a sensation we couldnt describe in other than deep and true love. We were the talk of the town at some stage. Malicious true gossip.

Dont worry too much about missing your chances to be cynical. There you go. That is something to look forward to in life when Arthritis makes walking on the beach or in moon lit alleys a bit of a chore. If love doesnt come to the rescue then, one's own preoccupation with one's health will.

[Salome]

Originally Posted by shadow1

Without that "specific purpose" I could never imagine how any relationship could be that serious.

cmon don't take it now out of context... we agree on this actually

Originally Posted by freedom4ever

Depending on what you are saying, than my Girlfriend should marry me blindly

I have an engineering degree, plus im into the master program with a high GPA,
but on the other side, im broke:( no house, no car, just my education and brain.

I dont think a women will marry education and brain.
She wants to enjoy some diamonds in her life for sure.

Maybe at a certain level after 2-3 years she will leave me to look for a more wealthy guy, with fancy cars and houses.

It depends on your preferences, do you prefer the girls who want to enjoy diamonds only or someone who appreciate you the way you are?

Now why are people so hasty about marriage?? If you are in your 20s you think it is too late?? Hell no, you don't even need to get married for Gods sake:D

Originally Posted by Nayla

Maybe I won't love a rich man, but when I'll think of marriage, he sure needs to be rich.

How rich?:D Are there certain criterias, like a list maybe he has to have this or that, or X amount of money etc...

Originally Posted by Dalzi

Wrong honey, the "man" pays. It's sissy of him to have the "lady" pay for him. Ste7o

The lady can pay sometimes especially if they are in a serious relationship and not like just dating each others. Why would that make her partner look sissy?? You are strange:D