Do you believe in God? Why or why not?

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

I don't care what it contradicts with, it means you can have children without a man, imagine you can create the sperm from women's embryo? then there is no need for men, go tell religious scholars about this. Men are not needed we procreate only using women, tell me what they have to say.

There's nothing that contradicts the Islamic notion of God in creating a child out of a woman's embryo (I can't speak for other religions because we dont' share the same understanding of what God is). You're still using humans to create it. And according to God humans are able to reach anything with knowledge. Maybe you ought to examine the pshycological aspects of having no father, especially for a child who sees that s/he doesn't have what others have and grows up lacking what s/he is in need of. One thing goes up, the other goes down. Every violation to the perfect pattern of nature is another hole in the pants.

Bottom line there are things we don't understand and we always say God created it. Now we can create a man or a woman without the need of a man. We can have a full planet of women from this stem cells sperm thingy and then we can send them live on a planet, each day we deposit a baby in a basket on top of a building, never send them a man.
Then all of a sudden we send them a man and he starts creating babies the way we know it now, guess what, they will probably say God sent him, why? because they don't understand how it works.

What makes you think that saying there is a creator is related to not 'understanding' things? lol The more we understand things, the more we believe in a creator. Doesn't that baby need a scientist to create it?

Originally Posted by Danny Z

Wrong conclusion Dude.

The conclusion here should be not everything we don't understand should be attributed to something called God, we should stop exporting the responsibility of our lack of knowledge of the nature of things to something else than our ignorance to understand.

That's how it is to you because maybe your knowledge on religion comes from society or most probably from the holy church.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

if u ask me, there is nothing to prove to start with cuz i can't say that religions have any idea about what they are talking about

This is interesting if you ask me. Do you yourself know what religions are about? What do you know about God? That he's a wallking talking man with a mother and a father who's not his father?

in the past strange ppl spread religions, perhaps in the future it's wiser to have some estranged scientists spread new religions instead ;)

They will come to only one religion, let them keep searching. The more the merrier for us ;) I just hope they give up their search for the gay gene, coz we know they're not gonna find it.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Jasper

@TripoliSunni: There's no reason to mention Christianity in this, Science can do what it wants, but it can't dissapoint this religion.

It's not about this at all, all he's saying is that science doesn't 'dissapoint' (in your own terms) Islam. If Christianity is 'dissapointed' by science, that's not a Muslim's problem. If they want to discuss God based on Christian doctrines, church teachings, popic beliefs...etc they're free to do so with those who believe in them, but it's comical when debating with Muslims.

[J. Abizeid]

I have a feeling if I start telling my story this thread will be closed and that is not fair to the rest of us who are having fun entertaining each other.

[I_Am_LebanoN]

Originally Posted by J. Abizeid

I have a feeling if I start telling my story this thread will be closed and that is not fair to the rest of us who are having fun entertaining each other.

Why, do you have solid proof of God's existence ? That would be funny.

[LubnanALkawi]

Originally Posted by I_Am_LebanoN

Why, do you have solid proof of God's existence ? That would be funny.

I have proof of God's existence!
but only if the meaning of the word 'GOD' is 'The Creator' and not some guy in heaven giving us some orders and if we don't obey him we would burn in hell like most ancient beliefs would tell us!


now it is an scientific fact that evolution was real but still most monotheism believers refuse this real fact!

they claim about a god they don't even have any proof of

if this god they are talking about really exist why dont this god show him self and make our life and his life much more easier!

we just cant follow any fiction ancient book and start to make it our religion i think human are or should be smarter than thinking this way!

anyway if the word god and creator are synonymous the only fact i have about this creator is nature!

nature created us nature created this world so nature is god the universe is god everything you see is god!

now some people will say if god is nature,, then who created this nature

i would say i have no idea because we can only say the things we know about and we know that nature created us as human it created the earth we know it created almost everything.
we don't know much about it but at the same time we do know a lot of things about it and we are learning more about it everyday..
40 years ago human landed on the moon and few years ago we learned about how many billion galaxies there are in the universe just knowing those stuff is fascinating if we want to know about our god we have to look more maybe the next step is landing on the red planet this is part of knowing more about god!

time to stop looking into those ancient believes and look into the future as the answer will be there!

so yes god exist only if we mean the god is a creator!

i do believe that religion was important in the human history and thanks to it we became better in many ways but everything has its time so it is time now to release our self from it as we dont need religion any more religion is so ancient.. praying, temples etc are so ancient

[Lebanesegirl]

Yes I do believe in God! why? Because this is the way I was raised and without the help of God I don't think I can live my life easily!!

[Picasso]

لا أرى الإيمان بالله كقناعة عقلية مجردة فحسب، الإيمان حالة نورانية تعيشها وتشعر بها كما هي قناعة، لذا من المفترض أن يخرج هذا الضوء من داخلك، لا أحتاج إلى البرهنة على أني أحتاج إلى الحب في حياتي، حب كبير يجعلني أشعر باحتضانه وعطفه ورحمته، أن أحتاج إلى محبة عارمة لا حدود لها، وإلى فضاء لا متناه من الرحمة والغفران، قد نعتبر أن الديانات محل جدل، في نشوئها وتطورها ومآلاتها، وقد تكون مملة هذه اللعبة حين يولد المرء على دين أو مذهب ثم يبدأ بالقول إن ما لديه الحق والصواب، وأن جماعته هي الفرقة الناجية، وقد يتحول الأمر إلى غرور ديني ليصطفي الإنسان نفسه، وقد يبرر لنفسه كل أشكال العنف بالفعل أو القول ضد الآخر لأن هلوسة وهذيان أصابت عقله وجعلته يظن أن الله معه لأنه من دين محدد، وأن الآخرين مغضوب عليهم ولو كانوا أهل أخلاق. هذا شطط، الدين ليس حربة، بل أرى صواباً فيما قال النبي محمد (ص): إنما بُعثتُ لأتممَ مكارم الأخلاق. وبهذا تستوي علائق الناس، فأحب الناس إلى الله أكثرهم نفعاً لهم لا تكبراً عليهم واصطفاءً لنفسه كما نرى لدى كثيرين

الإيمان مسألة شخصية وذاتية ونابعة من الداخل، حين أرى الكائنات البحرية بألوانها المذهلة أعرف أن فناناً وراء ذلك، ولو كان تطوراً طبيعياً فسيكون هناك سر لهذا الكون لا نعرفه، وقد يكون هذا السر هو الله، فالبحث العلمي لا ينفي وجود الله، لكنه لا يثبته. النظام البيئي أو ما يعرف بالإنكليزية بـ"الإيكو سيستام" نظام دقيق ويدل على تنظيم جميل يخربه هذه الأيام الإنسان. أن تؤمن أو لا تؤمن، الخيار لك، وحرية المعتقد ينبغي أن تكون محفوظة، لكن لا ينبغي لأحد أن يستخدم العلم سيفاً ضد الإيمان، فالعلم فضاء مفتوح على الإكتشاف، وقد يكتشف الله بعد حين، قد يصل العلم إلى أن يرى الله على طريقته

قرأت منذ فترة على الـ"بي بي سي" أنهم يقتربون من اختراع ما يجعل الإنسان يختفي عن نظرك، فلا تراه ولو بإمكانك لمسه، وهذا ليس خيالاً علمياً بل قدرة يمتلكها الإنسان ببحثه الدؤوب، سيكون المرء إلى جانبك فلا تراه،، سيكون بإمكانه أن يصفعك على وجهك، وستظن أن الجن حضروا وصفعوك، لكن بعقل علمي ستعرف أن شخصاً إلى جانبك استخدم ذاك المسحوق أو مهما كان، هكذا يتطور الإنسان ليعرف قوانين الطبيعة وليدرك ما يجري حوله، لكنك إن نظرت إلى جانبك ولم تكن تعرف بأمر الإختراع الجديد فستجزم صادقاً أن الشخص الذي إلى جانبك ليس موجوداً، لكنه موجود. وهذا باختراع جديد، فكيفَ الأمر بالكون وأسراره التي تمتد أمامنا كلما ازددنا علماً؟

[Frisbeetarian]

Originally Posted by Gaius Julius Caesar

To deny the presence of God is to be ignorant of your existence and environment. In the whole scheme of things your logic or lack thereof leads to a void, a vast sea of ignorance. God is not a man in the sky pulling strings; He is an uncaused cause of limitless nature who manifests himself in every aspect of life. It is scientifically impossible for this universe to exist without a limitless force of energy that fuels it. Science proves energy flows even in the vast emptiness of space. Every force has its source and without this source nothing can exist. If you follow a logical line of thought, you will arrive at the conclusion that something cannot come out of nothing if there is nothing there to begin with. Science supports the existence of a Divine Creator, therefore, the burden falls on non-believers to prove otherwise.

Which science?

Originally Posted by Gaius Julius Caesar

Evolution is a cocktail of erroneous assertions from faulty dating methods & techniques, inaccurate identification, missing links, exaggeration and outright fraud & forgery based on flawed assumptions and embraced by secularized Atheistic nations to fit their political agendas.

Exemplify the: faulty methods & techniques, inacurrate identification, missing links, exaggerations and outright fraud. I dont really care about your fact deprived, example denuded opinion.

Even your Catholic Church (assuming you are Catholic, correct me if im wrong) details its opinion on the theory of evolution "as being more than probable".

[Zouxi]

Well, this is the most futile question anybody can ask, not for the unseriousness of the subject, but rather for the dead-lock outcome.

For me, i strongly believe in God, he is everything in my life, i don't want to prove to anybody his existence...