Circumcision

[Sirius]

TESTIMONY! :P

Well, a friend of mine underwent the procedure at the age of 21. It was therapeutic as he could no longer push back the foreskin. All I know (or he knows for that matter) is that he lost sensitivity. No input was given about sexual performance as he is still, faithfully and keenly, a virgin.

[Stella]

Originally Posted by LebaneseNProud

TESTIMONY! :P

Well, a friend of mine underwent the procedure at the age of 21. It was therapeutic as he could no longer push back the foreskin. All I know (or he knows for that matter) is that he lost sensitivity. No input was given about sexual performance as he is still, faithfully and keenly, a virgin.

Thanks for sharing. So he was not under pressure of any kind of trend, but he had to do it for medical reasons, right?
Anyway his feedback will be appreciated later too:D

[Fragrance of Roses]

Originally Posted by marisha

I can only tell you about my modest experience with men and there is a HUGE difference if talking about sensitivity, performance, self confidence etc.. Men are always obssesed with their ***** :) so why make it more problematic for them?! Haram..

Hahahahahahahahaa! You seriously made my day!!!!

As for the ones who said that breasts should be eliminated (given as an example to prove something else as I understood it to be) in order to reduce or eliminate breast cancer, well studies show that if a woman breast feeds her child, she is less likely to develop breast cancer. Therefore, my suggestion is "if you have them, use them... You'll both help your baby and save yourself."

Also, for those who are asking about the states and if circumcission is a common practice there, well it is all entirely up to the parents... In California, the matter is left up to the parents and their advice "Research it, and see for yourself. It is after all your decision."

Whatever medical studies prove or do not prove... one can still go either way, and from what I have read in this regards is that the biggest complaint that uncircumcized men have is the odor produced from the secreted fluids that get stuck under the foreskin... and that they have to bathe many many many times a day to get rid of it...

[Stella]

Originally Posted by AbirWard

Whatever medical studies prove or do not prove... one can still go either way, and from what I have read in this regards is that the biggest complaint that uncircumcized men have is the odor produced from the secreted fluids that get stuck under the foreskin... and that they have to bathe many many many times a day to get rid of it...

Thanks for mentioning, I heard about this aspect too. I guess it can be avoided if one takes care really properly, and maybe uses special cosmetics to cleansen it, but do all uncircumcised men take care about that properly?
Before men get enraged here:D:P yes women shall take care of themselves properly too, in the same way using cosmetics and special cleansening stuffs for women, as they also have some parts where they need to take care properly to avoid odors!

So hygieny and fresh smell is very basic, if you dont want to scare away your partner

[lebanesecanadian]

I have no opinion about the subject but here's an interesting scientific article about it:

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Does circumcision harm your sex life?

26 April 2007
From New Scientist Print Edition.

Does circumcision harm your sex life? This question has become more pressing than ever with the recent endorsement by the World Health Organization of circumcision as a means of reducing HIV infection in Africa (New Scientist, 31 March, p 7). But as two new studies show, it's proving tricky to resolve.
Kimberley Payne of the Riverside Professional Centre in Ottawa, Canada, and her colleagues tested the sensitivity of 20 intact and 20 circumcised men's penises as they watched erotic movie clips, by touching the penises with filaments that press down with predetermined amounts of pressure (The Journal of Sexual Medicine, DOI: 10.1111/j.1743-6109.2007.00471.x). They found no difference in penile sensation between circumcised and uncircumcised men.
However, when Robert Van Howe of Michigan State University used a similar method to measure sensitivity at 19 points along the penises of 163 men, he found that the five most sensitive points were all in portions of the ***** removed by circumcision, especially those in folds exposed as the ***** becomes erect (BJU International, vol 99, p 864).
Van Howe says Payne's team might have had similar results if they had tested more men and made measurements at more than two points. He denied that funding by the National Organization of Circumcision Information Resource Centers, which opposes circumcision, influenced the result. "It would be hard to fake," he says. He hopes other groups will try to replicate the findings.
From issue 2601 of New Scientist magazine, 26 April 2007, page 17

[marisha]

Originally Posted by lebanesecanadian

I have no opinion about the subject but here's an interesting scientific article about it:

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Does circumcision harm your sex life?

26 April 2007
From New Scientist Print Edition.

Does circumcision harm your sex life? This question has become more pressing than ever with the recent endorsement by the World Health Organization of circumcision as a means of reducing HIV infection in Africa (New Scientist, 31 March, p 7). But as two new studies show, it's proving tricky to resolve.
Kimberley Payne of the Riverside Professional Centre in Ottawa, Canada, and her colleagues tested the sensitivity of 20 intact and 20 circumcised men's penises as they watched erotic movie clips, by touching the penises with filaments that press down with predetermined amounts of pressure (The Journal of Sexual Medicine, DOI: 10.1111/j.1743-6109.2007.00471.x). They found no difference in penile sensation between circumcised and uncircumcised men.
However, when Robert Van Howe of Michigan State University used a similar method to measure sensitivity at 19 points along the penises of 163 men, he found that the five most sensitive points were all in portions of the ***** removed by circumcision, especially those in folds exposed as the ***** becomes erect (BJU International, vol 99, p 864).
Van Howe says Payne's team might have had similar results if they had tested more men and made measurements at more than two points. He denied that funding by the National Organization of Circumcision Information Resource Centers, which opposes circumcision, influenced the result. "It would be hard to fake," he says. He hopes other groups will try to replicate the findings.
From issue 2601 of New Scientist magazine, 26 April 2007, page 17

An uncovered ***** becomes more sensitive to any contact which leads to an earlier ejaculation. Circumsised men come faster than non circomcised ones.
That is in fact a problematic issue in a couple's sex life.

But in any case, I heard that any uncut man, whatever he did, his ***** will just smell sometimes, the hygiene factor is indeed a big issue and for some it is somehow an embarrassing matter.
I also read that a grown man did get cut for hygiene reasons and decided to circumsise his baby boys too for saving them the psycological issues he had to face when growing up, among them sarcasm, jokes about his organ and bad funky smells.

[lebgeneral]

Originally Posted by freak

Male circumcision 'cuts' HIV risk
Infected cell
Foreskin cells are thought to be more vulnerable to HIV infection
Circumcision can cut the rate of HIV infection in heterosexual men by 50%, results from two African trials show.

The findings are so striking, the US National Institutes of Health decided it would be unethical to continue and stopped the trials early.

It supports a previous South African study which reported similar results.

Experts said it was a significant breakthrough but could not replace standard methods of preventing infection such as condoms.

BBC

True,
but just a clarification that what reduces HIV risk is that without circumcision, the environment becomes more humid, and this is what increases the Virus to survive, not the nature of the skin..

This is the main advantage in addition to the hygiene reason I guess..

[rayograph]

although i do believe that keeping a good genital hygiene is a lot easier for circumcised men than intact ones, i can honestly say that keeping a good hygiene in general is the key; i mean, it's either you're someone clean who takes good care of his over-all hygiene or you're not... don't you think?

[Stella]

Originally Posted by marisha

An uncovered ***** becomes more sensitive to any contact which leads to an earlier ejaculation. Circumsised men come faster than non circomcised ones.

Not necesseraly:) It is also a matter of maturity + psychological factors, and also whether the couple is in harmony with each other etc.. so many things which will determine by either side when they come.

But in any case, I heard that any uncut man, whatever he did, his ***** will just smell sometimes, the hygiene factor is indeed a big issue and for some it is somehow an embarrassing matter.

Really now Nip/Tuck comes into my mind, where the young boy bc of the pressure of his gf, and bc of trend he made a circumcision. From the movie it didnt turn out whether the smell played also a role in his decision.

[HooKs]

Ok, a brief info about the origin of the act of circumcision. It is originally a or to be specific, THE Jewish tradition. It is what is called Brit Milla- which indicates their contract with God. In simple words, its contract they have with God, and eventually what differentiates their status and advanced rank towards God as opposed to the gentiles, the non-Jews.
There might be multiple versions or accounts on this issue, i just wrote what i have learned about it.

Mature guys, if u r uncut, do NOT do it. If u r thinking or thought about it, then my advice to u is to forget about it. Believe me i know what i`m talking about as i have so very unpleasant experience with this issue. I regret this almost everyday. I was happily uncut, so very sexually active (i`m still btw) but things changed a lot. The scars not only leave a mark on ur member, they more importantly leave a mental and psychological scar as well. They will hurt for the rest of ur life, relatively speaking. And the sexual ability will drop remarkably. I`m talking about 20-30%, and in some cases much more than that. I did it for cosmetic and hygenic( read it reduces chances in catching HIV), but i wish i never done it.