Christianity - opinions, questions & answers

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[DaManInChrist]

Some of the doctrines of the Christian faith:

God is the Creator of the whole universe.

God is one God of three distinct but inseperable persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

All three persons of God are equal in nature. Each person is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, eternal, and everlasting. However, they are not equal by rank. The Father, for example, is greater than the Son by rank.

Jesus is the Son (the Word) made flesh. He is both fully human and fully divine in nature.

Jesus, who is the Incarnation of God, was conceived by the Holy Spirit in Mary's womb around 2000 years ago.

Sin (and death) entered the world through Adam. All humans have sinned because all have inherited the sinful nature from their common ancestor, Adam.

Sin separates us from God. Sin angers Him.

Jesus, unlike all other humans, has always had a sinless nature (because of the Holy Spirit). He is the only human who's never sinned and fallen short of God's glory.

Jesus died on the cross to pay the price for all our sins.

Jesus rose from the dead a few days later.

Jesus ascended into Heaven days after His resurrection.

Jesus is the only Way to the Father.

Anyone who rejects Jesus till the end will end up in hell.

Hell is eternal separation from God's grace. It never ends.

Salvation is a free gift from God to us. We do not deserve this gift.

Salvation is by God's grace alone through faith alone. Our deeds cannot save us.

There is only one saving faith - living faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour.

The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ.

Anyone who is saved is born again by the Spirit.

Every born again enters the Kingdom of God the moment he is saved - not after he physically dies.

The Church is the assembly of all true Christians (i.e. born again Christians). It is not a building or a spiritual place.

Jesus is the Head of the Church. The Church is His Body.

Jesus is the living Word of God, while the Bible is the written Word of God.

The Bible is an inerrant book. It has no errors in it, for it was written by God.

The Bible was written by God through His prophets and the Apostles. The Words in the Bible are God's Words.

Jesus will return someday to this world.

The saved will be raised from the dead and possess new bodies of a sinless nature.

The damned (including Satan) will eventually be thrown into the lake of fire.

Eventually, there will be a new world, which will replace this current world.

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The above are just some of the doctrines.

[Phoenician]

While I have many questions I would like to note only a few of them.

-How do evangelicals (as I assume you are) perceive the prophets prior to Jesus. Are they also infallible?

-How was the New Testament revelead to Christians, and why does the Church (Roman) get to choose which is really from God and which isn't?

-Why are masses and prayers traditionally Latin knowing that neither Jesus nor the Apostles spoke Latin? Carrying this point further, why is the Church Roman?

[DaManInChrist]

Originally Posted by Phoenician

While I have many questions I would like to note only a few of them.

And I will answer with all pleasure, dear friend.

-How do evangelicals (as I assume you are) perceive the prophets prior to Jesus. Are they also infallible?

Not at all. Only God's Words are infallible. In fact, God's Words (the Bible) show us how fallible His prophets were.

-How was the New Testament revelead to Christians, and why does the Church (Roman) get to choose which is really from God and which isn't?

Every New Testament book was revealed to Christians the moment it was written ... because, don't forget, the New Testament books were written by Christians themselves.

As for the second part of your question, it is actually a wrong question to ask. The Church (which is not actually Roman) did not do any choosing ... for every New Testament book was already considered God's Words the moment it was written.

-Why are masses and prayers traditionally Latin knowing that neither Jesus nor the Apostles spoke Latin? Carrying this point further, why is the Church Roman?

Concerning the first question, it doesn't really matter, my friend.

Latin, Greek, Hebrew, English, Arabic ... all good.

I don't know exactly why, though. You'll have to wait for someone else to answer (or I can answer this for you later if it's God's will).

As for the Church, it's not Roman. It's universal. The Church isn't a building or a spiritual place. It's the assembly of all truly born again Christians.

What is perceived by many as the Church is not actually the Church of Jesus Christ. It is a "Church" that bases its doctrines on its manmade traditions instead of on God's Words.

[Abufijli]

Originally Posted by DaManInChrist

Some of the doctrines of the Christian faith:

God is the Creator of the whole universe.

God is one God of three distinct but inseperable persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

All three persons of God are equal in nature. Each person is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, eternal, and everlasting. However, they are not equal by rank. The Father, for example, is greater than the Son by rank.

Jesus is the Son (the Word) made flesh. He is both fully human and fully divine in nature.

Jesus, who is the Incarnation of God, was conceived by the Holy Spirit in Mary's womb around 2000 years ago.

Sin (and death) entered the world through Adam. All humans have sinned because all have inherited the sinful nature from their common ancestor, Adam.

Sin separates us from God. Sin angers Him.

Jesus, unlike all other humans, has always had a sinless nature (because of the Holy Spirit). He is the only human who's never sinned and fallen short of God's glory.

Jesus died on the cross to pay the price for all our sins.

Jesus rose from the dead a few days later.

Jesus ascended into Heaven days after His resurrection.

Jesus is the only Way to the Father.

Anyone who rejects Jesus till the end will end up in hell.

Hell is eternal separation from God's grace. It never ends.

Salvation is a free gift from God to us. We do not deserve this gift.

Salvation is by God's grace alone through faith alone. Our deeds cannot save us.

There is only one saving faith - living faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour.

The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ.

Anyone who is saved is born again by the Spirit.

Every born again enters the Kingdom of God the moment he is saved - not after he physically dies.

The Church is the assembly of all true Christians (i.e. born again Christians). It is not a building or a spiritual place.

Jesus is the Head of the Church. The Church is His Body.

Jesus is the living Word of God, while the Bible is the written Word of God.

The Bible is an inerrant book. It has no errors in it, for it was written by God.

The Bible was written by God through His prophets and the Apostles. The Words in the Bible are God's Words.

Jesus will return someday to this world.

The saved will be raised from the dead and possess new bodies of a sinless nature.

The damned (including Satan) will eventually be thrown into the lake of fire.

Eventually, there will be a new world, which will replace this current world.

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The above are just some of the doctrines.

Is incest allowed in christianity.???

[DaManInChrist]

Originally Posted by Abufijli

Is incest allowed in christianity.???

Unfortunately for you, no.

[Abufijli]

Originally Posted by DaManInChrist

Unfortunately for you, no.

Are you sure about that? I have some verses from Genesis right here which condone incest:

Genesis, Chapter 19, Verses 30-38.

30. And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
31. And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

32. Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

33. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

34. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

35. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

36. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

37. And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.

38. And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Ben-ammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.

What is exactly going on here?

[Dalzi]

Abufijli, this is exactly why wine is 7aram ...

[Abufijli]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

Abufijli, this is exactly why wine is 7aram ...

The problem with these verses is that you have a prophet of God, who is supposed to be the ambassador of Allah on earth doing an act which no sane person on the face of this earth wouold even think of doing. How can Allah send us such flawed human beings to teach us right and wrong?

If that story is true, and I know that it is not, then I will live the rest of my life in complete sin, fornicating, drinking, killing etc.. and when judgement day comes, I will tell god that he has no right to punish me as I am a mere mortal human who makes less mistakes than your blessed ambassador. If your own prophet commited the most atrocious of sins, how can you expect me to live a pious life?

[DaManInChrist]

Originally Posted by Abufijli

Are you sure about that? I have some verses from Genesis right here which condone incest:



What is exactly going on here?

You didn't post verses that CONDONE incest. You posted a story about how certain people sinned.