Is chastity still a value?

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[Shah Massoud]

A girl is free to do whatever she wants with her body...just like the guy

the only catch is : before getting married : both the girl and the guy should inform each other of their past experiences in the name of honesty and before opening a new page together....

[coralie]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

Sorry, but 'WE' don't respect that choice and you know that more than you know your eye colour.

Cheers!

who is the "WE" ?

i am a woman i do respect the choice of the woman what ever it is and i know that as i know the color of my eyes take my word for it .
i do not judge , i dont have a say about HER CHOICE it is non of my business , i do certainly not call her names i will simply respect her free choice point a la ligne . as long as she is doing it with her free will , consent and conviction .

my "values" my "principles" might be different or opposite to hers this is also MY CHOICE it is my personal belief it consern only me but i will never never never interfer in her choice or call her a prostitute , dirty , lowlife or whatever why the hell do i want to do that ????? . who am i to judge her choices ?

chastity and vertue lies much further than a hymen ! some tongues and some minds are chastity free more than the worst sexualy active prostitute .(prostitute here = the one geting payed for her sexual services fa ktada el tawdi7)

it all reside in your mind in your heart not between the legs this is for me the core of chastity and vertue .

on another note howcome we are simply discussing women's chastity and vertue , what about men ? as if chastity and vertue are an exclusif caracteristic for women . !!!!! heit tan chouf most of the prosters here were men debating about women ... what do you have to say about your manly chastity and vertue ?

[GMA forever]

Originally Posted by coralie

on another note howcome we are simply discussing women's chastity and vertue , what about men ? as if chastity and vertue are an exclusif caracteristic for women . !!!!! heit tan chouf most of the prosters here were men debating about women ... what do you have to say about your manly chastity and vertue ?

Wlak shou hal so2al heda ka Coralie?? Anno what do you want us men to answer, our chastity lies between our legs???

[Salome]

Chastity of men was briefly discussed and as some here enlightened us this is how it evolved, this is how it is socially accepted: men have more rights in reality, men can have way looser interpretation of chastity, men in fact can have as many women as they wish and still they wont be labelled maximum as cool...

Personally I find it double standard and enraging however as you see some women dont mind it, and blame all the testosterone driven adventures of men on women actually!!

But how is it? It is in men's blood or better say in their lower part by nature by biology by instinct to be testosterone driven and to have the urge to spread their seed all around the world...so how the hell could be this actually the fault of the women???
Why make saints from men, when its good if one finds a decent man who controls his urges and is faithful to one woman, and not cheating left and right.

Well there is nothing wrong with chastity, it can be a great value beside many other important personal values as well but I do have problems with when it is not reciprocal. Some men with no morals at all, and with a sexual history better than a prostitute dare to have claims for a virgin and label non-virgins as "unclean" or disgraceful or whatever....while he never had the decency to keep his pants on

ah but yeah well they are men, they are different, they have urges, and the society favours male monkey behaviour

[coralie]

Originally Posted by GMA forever

Wlak shou hal so2al heda ka Coralie?? Anno what do you want us men to answer, our chastity lies between our legs???

wlak ka GMA forever chou 7erim el sou2al ???? as Salome said

Originally Posted by Salome

Chastity of men was briefly discussed

nothing much to say about the subject huh ?

trekni 3ala niyeti ka GMA forever !!!! lol... i was still hoping we can get little bit more than a "brief" enlightenment...
i tried to throw the best question i have regarding men's side of the story knowing the answer cant come better then the above LOOOOOOL ..... ^.... well at least it is "brief" clear and honest answer right to the heart of men's "chastity" !!!!!!

[Red Phoenix]

what is manly chastity ?

[Salome]

I wonder when it comes to men, chastity has a meaning only if one is a priest or a monk?

Since I see men minds are blank now:D let me ask some helping questions.

Chastity in a sense that you can control yourself and not trying to have every women around you, was that ever a virtue of yours?

Chastity in a sense that is an ability to commit to one person (at least at a time) and not to cheat on her?

Chastity in a sense to have the decency to remain virgin for your wife if you expect her to be virgin as well? (I know this is a tough one)

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Salome

I wonder when it comes to men, chastity has a meaning only if one is a priest or a monk?

pretty much so ya

Since I see men minds are blank now:D let me ask some helping questions.

u are most generous ;)

Chastity in a sense that you can control yourself and not trying to have every women around you, was that ever a virtue of yours?

not thinking about having every women around is not normal, now since we are civil we dont always go for it

Chastity in a sense that is an ability to commit to one person (at least at a time) and not to cheat on her?

sure why not, that's possible, as long as she is very sexually active to compensate

Chastity in a sense to have the decency to remain virgin for your wife if you expect her to be virgin as well? (I know this is a tough one)

why not, but if by accident i happened to lose my virginity to another women in this long arduous life full of perils and temptation, i can always lie to her according to what he prefers to hear: if she 'likes' virgin men then i'm her man (she can 'teach me sex' her way), and if she likes sex maniacs then i'm her man also (so we can make sweet symphony together)

at any rate, having answered ur question

it all boils down to how much a guy is willing to be honest or not with his girl and eventually with himself

it just aches me to see horny married guys around that aren't honest with their honey cakes ;)

[Salome]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

it all boils down to how much a guy is willing to be honest or not with his girl and eventually with himself

it just aches me to see horny married guys around that aren't honest with their honey cakes ;)

Some men just dont appreciate women enough, what at this stage of evolution would be expected actually, but apparently men mature way slower than women.

Men and honesty together is kind of rare, at least I can say it from womens point of view, dont know what men say about women.

Either way a non-honest man deserves all the way an equal lieing woman, and vice versa.