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How do you see the Celibacy in this age? Is it outdated? Should it be still maintained?

In this thread I would like you to discuss the religious celibacy, all relevant religions can be discussed not just the catholic.

In my culture I can observe and have feedback about the catholic religion though. It truly disgusts me the abuse of certain catholic priests who sometimes even dare to abuse little children out of frustration or whatever leads them to commit those crimes.

Why does the Church maintain this obviously meaningless and harmful, very unnatural dogma? Why cant they allow the priests to have normal sexual life as well, thus avoiding any abnormal behaviour from them later?

Sexuality is part of humanity, it is very natural and nothing wrong in it. I think to live a healthy life both mentally and psychologically one need to have a harmonious sexual life as well.

So its rather ridiculous accepting the preachings of those men who are living an abnormal life, thus having a deformed way of behaviour and thus mentality right away.

And we all see the consequenses of it, how those priests are becoming mentally deformed thus committing those crimes!

I think the right to have a normal sexual life, as an essence of health, shall be put into the Human Rights Charter, and be considered thus as a basic human right! Everybody constraining it shall be considered as violating a human right.

Feel free to express your opinions on the issue.

DaMan am counting on your quotes from the Bible, where do they state exactly that priests shall live in celibacy? Also I dont remember Jesus saying anything about celibacy.

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DaMan am counting on your quotes from the Bible, where do they state exactly that priests shall live in celibacy? Also I dont remember Jesus saying anything about celibacy.
There are none.

That's why I'm not a follower of the [] Roman Catholicism.

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Here are some verses that are against celibacy.

1 Corinthians 7:9
But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

1 Timothy 3:2
Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,

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More about the abuses:

Roman Catholic sex abuse cases


And what happens to those who try to push for reforms:


Renegade archbishop excommunicated
POSTED: 1:10 p.m. EDT, September 26, 2006


ROME, Italy (CNN) -- A Zambian archbishop who has riled the Roman Catholic Church by supporting marriage among Catholic priests has been excommunicated, the Vatican has said.

"The Holy See has patiently witnessed the evolution of the events which, unfortunately, have led Archbishop Milingo to a state of irregularity and progressive open break from communion with the Church," the Vatican said in a statement Tuesday.

The final straw for Emmanual Milingo -- the archbishop of Lusaka, Zambia -- was a service last weekend in Washington, D.C., in which he ordained four married priests as bishops without the consent of the Holy See.

The four priests were also excommunicated by the Vatican.

Five years ago, Milingo broke his own vows as a Catholic priest by marrying a woman in a mass wedding service in New York officiated by Korean evangelist Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church.

Months later, he repented and was forgiven by the Vatican.

But Milingo has not stopped pushing for the Catholic Church to change its policy of not allowing priests to marry. The 71-year-old recently formed a group called Married Priests Now and is calling for the return of approximately 150,000 former priests who are now married, according to his Web site.

The Vatican, however, has rejected Milingo's organization, saying it has created "divisions and consternations among the faithful."

The Vatican under Pope John Paul II was reluctant to excommunicate Milingo because of his popularity in his home country and across Africa, and the church did not want to create a schism within the continent.

According to the Vatican statement issued Monday, church officials have "vainly tried to contact Archbishop Milingo in order to dissuade him into committing actions that provoke scandals, especially in regards to the faithful that have followed his pastoral ministry on favor of the poor and sick."

The Vatican demoted Milingo in 1983 after the church learned he was holding faith-healing services and exorcisms in Lusaka. He was forced to leave the Zambian capital and given a minor job in Rome.

Milingo could not immediately be reached for comment and did not post any response on his Web site.


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