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Default Can you get committed to a person having divergent political opinion? - 13th April 2006

Politics are thoroughly involved (whether we like it or not) in every aspects of societal culture, were it from recruitment policies, to trade operations, sports events, medias, entertainement and others...
(I am not generalising, but talking about "inicidents" that i either encountered or that drew my attention).

I was wondering if politics did also harm our personal decisions:
- Can you get committed to a person having a totally different political opinion?
- Do you think that 2 activists in different parties can get attracted to each others?

or another scenario: if your parents used to fight on a different front that his/her parents, and maybe shot on each other, do you think that would be an obstacle to a potential commitment?

Maybe i am opening this thread because I had some "bad" example in front of me. I will state 2 examples to clarify my point of view:

A friend of mine refused a marriage 'cause the groom holds the family name of a political figurine she hates,

Another friend (her sister in fact) married her 2nd choice groom, because he was a fellow fighter, while the one she claimed to have loved more was politically neutral.

Those are 2 examples, just to clarify my point of view
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Politics are thoroughly involved (whether we like it or not) in every aspects of societal culture, were it from recruitment policies, to trade operations, sports events, medias, entertainement and others...
(I am not generalising, but talking about "inicidents" that i either encountered or that drew my attention).

I was wondering if politics did also harm our personal decisions:
- Can you get committed to a person having a totally different political opinion?
- Do you think that 2 activists in different parties can get attracted to each others?

or another scenario: if your parents used to fight on a different front that his/her parents, and maybe shot on each other, do you think that would be an obstacle to a potential commitment?

Maybe i am opening this thread because I had some "bad" example in front of me. I will state 2 examples to clarify my point of view:

A friend of mine refused a marriage 'cause the groom holds the family name of a political figurine she hates,

Another friend (her sister in fact) married her 2nd choice groom, because he was a fellow fighter, while the one she claimed to have loved more was politically neutral.

Those 2 examples
I wanted to ask the same question!
I am currently very tired of Lebanese politics so this may affect my judgment but thats my new(there was no old I just couldn't find the answer) opinion.

Personnaly I do not care, and no one should why should you? who knows tomorow the political party she/he is following will switch his oppinion! every political party switched his position in the past year at least 3 times so who cares, you will like her for a month and hate her for another.
I decided to not care about lebanese politics anymore khallass ba7ba7 Lebanon they murdered him at his birth, let her like who ever she wants I will not care bi keil l a7weil 3abayna bil 7eit I will not even try to convince her, I have nothing to convince her. If one day someone good comes he'll follow Lebanon (to death) in a few years so let her follow him she'll cry a bit at his death and then move on, I did my mistakes and I really don't care about other let them do the mistakes they want to do the patient is dead anyway.

Hala2 to answer you second question yeah they'll get attracted to each other you don't have an FPMer stamp on your head! she wont know, attraction is fast love is slow so they will get attracted but I don't know if they can love each other
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Default Re: Can you get committed to a person having divergent political opinion? - 14th April 2006

No way

I ve tried it and i failed. I mean never i can get commited to someone that has divergent political view and stands. He can be neutral, yes, but not more than neutral..

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Personnaly I do not care, and no one should why should you? who knows tomorow the political party she/he is following will switch his oppinion!
I don't care either, but the examples i stated keep on hunting me... I never understood why they behaved like so!

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every political party switched his position in the past year at least 3 times so who cares, you will like her for a month and hate her for another.
I decided to not care about lebanese politics anymore khallass ba7ba7 Lebanon they murdered him at his birth, let her like who ever she wants I will not care bi keil l a7weil 3abayna bil 7eit I will not even try to convince her, I have nothing to convince her. If one day someone good comes he'll follow Lebanon (to death) in a few years so let her follow him she'll cry a bit at his death and then move on, I did my mistakes and I really don't care about other let them do the mistakes they want to do the patient is dead anyway.

Hala2 to answer you second question yeah they'll get attracted to each other you don't have an FPMer stamp on your head! she wont know, attraction is fast love is slow so they will get attracted but I don't know if they can love each other
What i meant to say is that, do you think that politics can play the same 'separator' role, like religions or sects sometimes do (one often hesitates a lot before getting committed, and sometimes refuses the sommitment, to a person of another religion)
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Default Re: Can you get committed to a person having divergent political opinion? - 14th April 2006

that wont work at all !!! it never works between just friends ....

i can say that almost ALL of my friends are FPMers , because i cant get along with non FPMers . if i cant have a non FPMer as a friend , then i surely cant commit to a girl who has a divergent political opinion .
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Default Re: Can you get committed to a person having divergent political opinion? - 14th April 2006

هذه مشكلة دول العالم الثالث !!!
ان الانسان هو انسان قبل ان يكون محازب او مؤمن او عامل او غيره من الامور الحيلتية
ان العلاقة الزوجية اعمق من حزب ما وبالاحرى يجب على الفكر السياسي ان ينفصل عن حياتنا اليومية لان العلاقات البشرية اهم من حزازيات قد تمنعنا النظر في مواضيع اعمق من موضوع يومي او موضوع يتبلور مع الايام المؤسسة الزوجية واعتقد ان العلاقات الفاشلة التي تفشل تحت ستار السياسة هي اصلا و ضمنيا علاقة حتم عليها الفشل الا انها لبست علة السياسة لا اكثر والا ما التفسير في زواج الاخرى
انها امور شخصية
حتى الامور البسيطة تسيّس وهذه مصيبة العالم الثالث
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Default Re: Can you get committed to a person having divergent political opinion? - 14th April 2006

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هذه مشكلة دول العالم الثالث !!!
ان الانسان هو انسان قبل ان يكون محازب او مؤمن او عامل او غيره من الامور الحيلتية
ان العلاقة الزوجية اعمق من حزب ما وبالاحرى يجب على الفكر السياسي ان ينفصل عن حياتنا اليومية لان العلاقات البشرية اهم من حزازيات قد تمنعنا النظر في مواضيع اعمق من موضوع يومي او موضوع يتبلور مع الايام المؤسسة الزوجية واعتقد ان العلاقات الفاشلة التي تفشل تحت ستار السياسة هي اصلا و ضمنيا علاقة حتم عليها الفشل الا انها لبست علة السياسة لا اكثر والا ما التفسير في زواج الاخرى
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حتى الامور البسيطة تسيّس وهذه مصيبة العالم الثالث
Pretty much, i was always a firm believer of this. Personal relations come before politics or anything. It doesn't mean that i will sacrifice my beliefs for some one, but it means that i will seperate the too. I will be honest. most of my friends are LFers. They're stupid i know. We get into fight... i know. They're retard... i'm certain. But they're still my friends and id take a bullet for any one of them. Not liking a person because of his political affiliation is just as superficial as not liking some one because of the way he dresses.
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Default Re: Can you get committed to a person having divergent political opinion? - 14th April 2006

dunno honestly, never been there.. But I guess it won't be such a problem, we'll just have to accomodate to it, try not to debate that much and respect each other's opinions.
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Default Re: Can you get committed to a person having divergent political opinion? - 14th April 2006

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هذه مشكلة دول العالم الثالث !!!
ان الانسان هو انسان قبل ان يكون محازب او مؤمن او عامل او غيره من الامور الحيلتية
ان العلاقة الزوجية اعمق من حزب ما وبالاحرى يجب على الفكر السياسي ان ينفصل عن حياتنا اليومية لان العلاقات البشرية اهم من حزازيات قد تمنعنا النظر في مواضيع اعمق من موضوع يومي او موضوع يتبلور مع الايام المؤسسة الزوجية واعتقد ان العلاقات الفاشلة التي تفشل تحت ستار السياسة هي اصلا و ضمنيا علاقة حتم عليها الفشل الا انها لبست علة السياسة لا اكثر والا ما التفسير في زواج الاخرى
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حتى الامور البسيطة تسيّس وهذه مصيبة العالم الثالث

True. A Canadian friend of mine told me that he never knew to which party his wife votes in national elections. He was an active Conservative and one day he told his wife" listen, if you're voting Liberal I won't argue with you, but I want to know just so we could both just stay at home and not vote because our votes would cancel each other!".... That was the only time he knew the political affiliation of his wife.

P.S. They ended up going to the polling station!
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Default Re: Can you get committed to a person having divergent political opinion? - 14th April 2006

Lebanon is not like any other country lebanese politics is in our blood . civil war and death affected us a lot , politics became our religion our ideal our task we cant say im neutral , exemples are many ppl say well i dont care im neutral i dont back up any political parti yet when any disscussion start we see that we simply cant hold ourselves and before we notice somehow we are in the middle of the conversation defending this or that "political principales" . i think if we are clever enough we can separate our personal political affilliations from our personal intimete life , but are we that clever ? can we love a person more then our political ideas ? i did nt see this happening in Lebanon , any way from my side i would say no we cant personaly i will not be able to deal with this problem i cant imagine myself for exemple with a jumblati fighter knowing that he had something to do with all the massacres and tehjir of a whole population or today dfending a flipfloping point view i simply cant accept it, beside all my friends are FPMers so basicly we have the same ideas and same goals .
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