Can love be scientifically proved?

[DaManInChrist]

Originally Posted by Materialist

Did you read my previous posts, it seems that you didn't understand anything

Of course, I didn't understand anything ACCORDING TO YOU ... because you want me to be convinced of what you say, even if what you say is not true!

Here I will post it again

"Emotions can be easily explained by science. For example, when a man see a beautiful naked women, the image comes to his eye and the signals moves throw his neurons then it makes stimulation in his brain, and this stimulation will make a reaction. This reaction is called "Emotion".

Did you ever ask yourself why looking at a beautiful naked woman does such a thing to you? I mean ... does looking at a naked old woman make you have the same reaction as when looking at a beautiful naked woman?

Or maybe we're not allowed to ask these questions ...

Another example, When your stomach is empty your brain releases chemicals that make stimulation in your brain and you would feel hungry..... All other types of emotions can be explained in this materialistic way."

Hunger is not an emotion. We are talking about emotions ...

When you see a tall person with big muscles, you will say that this person is strong, right ? But does the word "strong" exist ? No, it is just a word that describe something.

That's why we don't consider what we say as physical.

Love, fear, hunger..... are words that describe certain physical reactions.

That's true when you are talking about the TERMS. The term "materialist" is also a word to denote a materialist. Does this mean you don't exist?

In other words, emotions don't exist in absolute sense.

Based on what you concluded above ...

[DaManInChrist]

Originally Posted by Osiris

It was proved long time ago..

When? In the prehistoric days?

go read things other than religion!

Who told you I don't?

Emotions and feelings, like wrath, fright, passion, love, hate, joy and sadness, are mammalian inventions, originated in the limbic system. This system is also responsible for some aspects of personal identity and for important functions related to memory.

Yes, according to:
http://www.healing-arts.org/n-r-limbic.htm

Read about how the brain processes emotions HERE.
Read about the limbic system HERE.
See your emotions HERE.

Why don't you show me that you know what you're talking about here, instead of copy/pasting.

Or could it be that you don't have any good arguments to make concerning this subject?

And finally, have a nice day !!

Yes, thank you.

[Evolution]

Did you ever ask yourself why looking at a beautiful naked woman does such a thing to you? I mean ... does looking at a naked old woman make you have the same reaction as when looking at a beautiful naked woman?

Our brain makes different reactions depending on what we see and experience.

Hunger is not an emotion. We are talking about emotions

It is a feeling, but feelings and emotions are the same in my dictionary.

That's true when you are talking about the TERMS. The term "materialist" is also a word to denote a materialist. Does this mean you don't exist?

A materialist is someone who believes that only thing that can truly be said to exist is matter (The things that are made from particles like Atom, electrons, photons .... etc which constitute the observable universe.) and believes that all phenomena are the result of material interactions.

"Materialist" is a term that describe someones beliefs

[Osiris]

Originally Posted by DaManInChrist

Why don't you show me that you know what you're talking about here, instead of copy/pasting.

Or could it be that you don't have any good arguments to make concerning this subject?

Show you what I know? I showed you what I know, it seems you don't read well.

I know that emotions are based in the brain and I provided the links for you to read about that, but you did not read any of them. I do provide Biology private lessons if you are interested, PM me for details.

Have a great day!

[DaManInChrist]

Originally Posted by Materialist

Our brain makes different reactions depending on what we see and experience.

You didn't answer my question(s).

Did you ever ask yourself why looking at a beautiful naked woman does such a thing to you? I mean ... does looking at a naked old woman make you have the same reaction as when looking at a beautiful naked young woman? If not, why not?

It is a feeling, but feelings and emotions are the same in my dictionary.

Ok, but hunger is different from ... let's say ... love.

A materialist is someone who believes that only thing that can truly be said to exist is matter (The things that are made from particles like Atom, electrons, photons .... etc which constitute the observable universe.) and believes that all phenomena are the result of material interactions.

"Materialist" is a term that describe someones beliefs

And materialists exist, like you.

[DaManInChrist]

Originally Posted by Osiris

Show you what I know? I showed you what I know, it seems you don't read well.

Yes, copy-pastes and links ...

I know that emotions are based in the brain and I provided the links for you to read about that, but you did not read any of them.

So you base your scientific knowledge on what other humans say. Nothing wrong with that ... unless humans decide to study emotions and the origin of life using operation science ...

I do provide Biology private lessons if you are interested, PM me for details.

And there are biologists who don't believe in evolution. These are better scientists than the ones who insist on studying the origins using operation science.

Have a great day!

Thank you again.

[Claudia]

I don't know why non-Believers members get angry so fast!... They say "Goodbye, we're done, have a nice day!" all the time when people disagree with them. By the contrary, I don't say goodbye to anyone... they may disagree me but I am always delighted to talk with them. But of course, Tolerance has no scientific evident, so maybe that's why Osiris and Materialist don't believe it.

Originally Posted by Materialist

By the way, there are already project by IBM to simulate a complete human brain in a computer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Brain

And we have already simulated "half a virtual mouse brain" on a supercomputer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6600965.stm

Originally Posted by Osiris

It was proved long time ago.. go read things other than religion!
Emotions and feelings, like wrath, fright, passion, love, hate, joy and sadness, are mammalian inventions, originated in the limbic system. This system is also responsible for some aspects of personal identity and for important functions related to memory.

Read about how the brain processes emotions HERE.
Read about the limbic system HERE.
See your emotions HERE.

And finally, have a nice day !!

Thanks for all the links, I know you want to give us good and reliable facts, but humans are not God, they fail too, so we'll never know if those links are 100% correct.
Anyway, your psychological explanations might not be scientific... That is, they might not be testable. Your psychology does not really tell you how the mind works; if it did, you'd be able to make predictions. But you can't because my mind is different from yours, and yours is different from Y's mind... I believe most humans have a psychological instinct that makes them believe in God (or in something transcendental) We have instincts and brain centers for food and many other things, and no one claims that food is an illusion.

[Evolution]

Originally Posted by DaManInChrist

You didn't answer my question(s).

Did you ever ask yourself why looking at a beautiful naked woman does such a thing to you? I mean ... does looking at a naked old woman make you have the same reaction as when looking at a beautiful naked young woman? If not, why not?

You should know this by yourself.....

When you press "A" in the keyboard, does the computer display the same thing as you press "B" ? Of course No, because when you press "A" you are sending different data to the computer than pressing "B"

When you see "a beautiful young women" you are sending different data to your brain than seeing "an old women"

However, your reaction may vary between you and another person because you have different genetics, life experience, moods and other things.

Ok, but hunger is different from ... let's say ... love..

But both are the result of material interactions in our brain

And materialists exist, like you.

I'm as a person, I exist.

[Omeros]

Originally Posted by Materialist

If emotions are not physical reactions, then what they would be ? A magical power ?

It seems religious people like you love to believe in mysteries !!!

I don't need to prove that our brain is a complex biological machine made from cells, neurons and organic materials, because it is self-evident that our brain is machine. All you need is to observe and study the structure of the Brain, and you will see that our brain is just made of cells and neurons connected together. We have looked inside our brain and the only thing we found is matter.

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By the way, there are already project by IBM to simulate a complete human brain in a computer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Brain

And we have already simulated "half a virtual mouse brain" on a supercomputer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6600965.stm

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[Omeros]

Originally Posted by Materialist

"Emotions can be easily explained by science. For example, when a man see a beautiful naked women, the image comes to his eye and the signals moves throw his neurons then it makes stimulation in his brain, and this stimulation will make a reaction. This reaction is called "Emotion". Another example, When your stomach is empty your brain releases chemicals that make stimulation in your brain and you would feel hungry..... All other types of emotions can be explained in this materialistic way."


When you see a tall person with big muscles, you will say that this person is strong, right ? But does the word "strong" exist ? No, it is just a word that describe something.

Love, fear, hunger..... are words that describe certain physical reactions. In other words, emotions don't exist in absolute sense.

noway ill shoot myself
not any naked women will stimulate ur neurone for exemple when ur painting a beautiful naked women u won't think that she have a great *** or whatever ull think oh I have a great painting ma khas neurone bel feelings when u love a women maybe ur neurone will be stimulate but not anynaked women will do that I gave u the ex of those girl who dnt put clothes ta yeresmouwon and ill gave u the exemple of porno girl's the camerman dnt feel or eprouve same feeling to his beloved