Can love be scientifically proved?

[Claudia]

Originally Posted by Materialist

Based on the current scientific evidences, the only thing that exist is matter.

May I ask you if you ever fall in love? How can "love" be scientific proved? It can't. The same happens with Faith. Faith is a Gift, a grace from God, you can't explain it.
I can't explain it better than saying that Faith is the greatest gift someone can have. I compare it to love. Until you feel it, you don't know how strong it can be.

To me God's presence is an evidence in my life, that's why I don't need scientific proofs.

The "problem" with God is that when He is present in your life, you have Duties and moral Responsibilities. Differently from religion, Darwinism justifies every mistake, personal or collective.

[Evolution]

Originally Posted by Claudia

May I ask you if you ever fall in love? How can "love" be scientific proved? It can't. The same happens with Faith. Faith is a Gift, a grace from God, you can't explain it.

Emotions such as love, fear, hunger........ are physical reactions

I have talked about this in many posts

http://www.lfpm.org/forum/showpost.p...&postcount=295
http://www.lfpm.org/forum/showpost.p...67&postcount=2
http://www.lfpm.org/forum/showpost.p...2&postcount=75
http://www.lfpm.org/forum/showpost.p...3&postcount=33


Emotions can be easily explained by science. For example, when a man see a beautiful naked women, the image comes to his eye and the signals moves throw his neurons then it makes stimulation in his brain, and this stimulation will make a reaction. This reaction is called "Emotion". Another example, When your stomach is empty your brain releases chemicals that make stimulation in your brain and you would feel hungry..... All other types of emotions can be explained in this materialistic way.

[Claudia]

[quote=Materialist;519081]

Originally Posted by Materialist

Emotions such as love, fear, hunger........ are physical reactions

I have talked about this in many posts

http://www.lfpm.org/forum/showpost.p...&postcount=295
http://www.lfpm.org/forum/showpost.p...67&postcount=2
http://www.lfpm.org/forum/showpost.p...2&postcount=75
http://www.lfpm.org/forum/showpost.p...3&postcount=33


Emotions can be easily explained in materialistic way. For example, when a man see a beautiful naked women, the image comes to your eye and the signals moves throw your neurons then it makes stimulation in your brain, and this stimulation will make a reaction. This reaction is called "Emotion". Another example, When your stomach is empty your brain releases chemicals that make stimulation in your brain and you would feel hungry..... All other type emotions can be explained in this materialistic way.

Love is different from fear or hunger. These last two are uncontrollable and unpleasant physical reactions. IMO, love is a feeling. You say "I fall in love" but not "I fall in hunger".

[gramsci]

[quote=Claudia;519268]

Originally Posted by Materialist

Love is different from fear or hunger. These last two are uncontrollable and unpleasant physical reactions. IMO, love is a feeling. You say "I fall in love" but not "I fall in hunger".

love is a feeling exist in every human , even among animals ,and it comes in itsmaterialist form and have nothing to do with spiritualism ( hence in case if u believe in god and u have this feeling toward god but thats love is different that the love or feeling toward another person , whiich is different than ur love to ur parents or ur sister or brother ,
and have nothing to do with religion :)

[Osiris]

Originally Posted by Claudia

May I ask you if you ever fall in love? How can "love" be scientific proved? It can't. The same happens with Faith. Faith is a Gift, a grace from God, you can't explain it.
I can't explain it better than saying that Faith is the greatest gift someone can have. I compare it to love. Until you feel it, you don't know how strong it can be.

Love is not proved? Where did you get that from?
Our emotions are a bunch of electric waves.. nothing more nothing less. Everything reside in our brain and this is the result of about 550 million years of brain evolution.

Originally Posted by Claudia

The "problem" with God is that when He is present in your life, you have Duties and moral Responsibilities. Differently from religion, Darwinism justifies every mistake, personal or collective.

Again, the same conclusion!
Duties and moral responsibilities also apply to atheist people!

[DaManInChrist]

Originally Posted by Osiris

Love is not proved? Where did you get that from?
Our emotions are a bunch of electric waves.. nothing more nothing less. Everything reside in our brain and this is the result of about 550 million years of brain evolution.

Since you seem so knowledgeable, prove what you say here!

[Evolution]

Originally Posted by DaManInChrist

Since you seem so knowledgeable, prove what you say here!

If emotions are not physical reactions, then what they would be ? A magical power ?

It seems religious people like you love to believe in mysteries !!!

I don't need to prove that our brain is a complex biological machine made from cells, neurons and organic materials, because it is self-evident that our brain is machine. All you need is to observe and study the structure of the Brain, and you will see that our brain is just made of cells and neurons connected together. We have looked inside our brain and the only thing we found is matter.

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By the way, there are already project by IBM to simulate a complete human brain in a computer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Brain

And we have already simulated "half a virtual mouse brain" on a supercomputer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6600965.stm

[DaManInChrist]

Originally Posted by Materialist

If emotions are not physical reactions, then what they would be ? A magical power ?

What do you mean by "physical"? You can't touch emotions. You can't see them. So how can they be physical reactions?

No, it has nothing to do with magic ... unless you think that God's works are magical ...

It seems religious people like you love to believe in mysteries !!!

I'm not religious. I'm a Christian.

I don't need to prove that our brain is a complex biological machine made from cells, neurons and organic materials, because it is self-evident that our brain is machine. All you need is to observe and study the structure of the Brain, and you will see that our brain is just made of cells and neurons connected together. We have looked inside our brain and the only thing we found is matter.

That's because you can see matter, but you can't see emotions! This shows that you can't use operation science to study emotions.

By the way, there are already project by IBM to simulate a complete human brain in a computer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Brain

Please let us know when the project is successfully done.

And we have already simulated "half a virtual mouse brain" on a supercomputer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6600965.stm

Yes ... half a virtual mouse brain ...

[Evolution]

Originally Posted by DaManInChrist

What do you mean by "physical"? You can't touch emotions. You can't see them. So how can they be physical reactions?

Did you read my previous posts, it seems that you didn't understand anything

Here I will post it again

"Emotions can be easily explained by science. For example, when a man see a beautiful naked women, the image comes to his eye and the signals moves throw his neurons then it makes stimulation in his brain, and this stimulation will make a reaction. This reaction is called "Emotion". Another example, When your stomach is empty your brain releases chemicals that make stimulation in your brain and you would feel hungry..... All other types of emotions can be explained in this materialistic way."


When you see a tall person with big muscles, you will say that this person is strong, right ? But does the word "strong" exist ? No, it is just a word that describe something.

Love, fear, hunger..... are words that describe certain physical reactions. In other words, emotions don't exist in absolute sense.

[Osiris]

Originally Posted by DaManInChrist

Since you seem so knowledgeable, prove what you say here!

It was proved long time ago.. go read things other than religion!
Emotions and feelings, like wrath, fright, passion, love, hate, joy and sadness, are mammalian inventions, originated in the limbic system. This system is also responsible for some aspects of personal identity and for important functions related to memory.

Read about how the brain processes emotions HERE.
Read about the limbic system HERE.
See your emotions HERE.

And finally, have a nice day !!