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Here are a couple of lines for you Faithful from my favourite play: Streetcar Named Desire


Blanche DuBois: I know I fib a good deal. After all, a woman's charm is 50% illusion.

Blanche DuBois: I don't want realism. I want magic! Yes, yes, magic. I try to give that to people. I do misrepresent things. I don't tell truths. I tell what ought to be truth.
I love that and i agree with you that some people don't want realism and they prefer living with lies, so we have to give them what they wish for .... but some others really like to hear the truth all the time.

If someone is asking a person to always be honest with him and to tell him the truth even if it was hard and painful .... Why he doesn't respect that wish and tell him the truth ??? ... why he lies when he knows that lying will hurt that person even more than the reality itself ???
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I love that and i agree with you that some people don't want realism and they prefer living with lies, so we have to give them what they wish for .... but some others really like to hear the truth all the time.

If someone is asking a person to always be honest with him and to tell him the truth even if it was hard and painful .... Why he doesn't respect that wish and tell him the truth ??? ... why he lies when he knows that lying will hurt that person even more than the reality itself ???
i told u,

cuz u got chronic liars, it's a disease for them they can't help but lie

and u got white lies

such as 'oh i dont want to murder u boss, i swear !'
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So, Why do people lie ???
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why do people kill , why do people rape , why do people steal
why do people pick on each other , why do they drive their motorcycles into peaceful neighborhood and pick on girls or kill some men
if u can answer these questions maybe you will stop asking why do people lie because lying is not a sin anymore at least not when u compare it to other acts we see day and night
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i told u,

cuz u got chronic liars, it's a disease for them they can't help but lie
!'
Ok RP it's a disease but it surely had causes No ??? ... what are they ??


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why do people kill , why do people rape , why do people steal
why do people pick on each other , why do they drive their motorcycles into peaceful neighborhood and pick on girls or kill some men
if u can answer these questions maybe you will stop asking why do people lie because lying is not a sin anymore at least not when u compare it to other acts we see day and night
ouf , khalas fashet khel2eh
Good facheyt khil2ak Orange Infection bas ma nafa3tne bi chi

Why do u lie ???
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I love that and i agree with you that some people don't want realism and they prefer living with lies, so we have to give them what they wish for .... but some others really like to hear the truth all the time.
First of all untruths are not necessarily lies. And the truth as it ought to be is much sexier than the truth as it really is. Embroidering reality with threads of colourful magic makes it more delectable. So much of life is subjective. The key in all of this is to avoid harming anyone. Do you remember how much you were delighted with the stories of my wretched wife.
As for those who want to hear the truth all the time, my heart goes out to them as I couldnt think of anything worse. There are times when self-deception could be a temporary reprieve from the oppresson of reality. 2008 was just a living hell for me ( I shall regale you one day with the sordid details) and I made it through by telling myself all sorts of lies: The truth as it ought to be. And when that dark cloud passed over and there was no more need to lie, I descended to the real world and have been yawning eversince.

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If someone is asking a person to always be honest with him and to tell him the truth even if it was hard and painful .... Why he doesn't respect that wish and tell him the truth ???
Some people are averse to sadistic tendencies. One must respect and admire that. Let's not always jump to extremes. There are ways to be tactful. Example. This girl at work was transferred to another branch and came to visit today I said to her: "Paulina, how nice to see you, I missed your ugly face". So I gave her half the truth not to hurt her feelings. But she can see through me and she said: I love you too and more than the plague".

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"... why he lies when he knows that lying will hurt that person even more than the reality itself ???
If someone's lie is more hurtful than the truth, that simply means the person does not know how to lie period. He should give up lying altogether.
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First of all untruths are not necessarily lies. And the truth as it ought to be is much sexier than the truth as it really is. Embroidering reality with threads of colourful magic makes it more delectable. So much of life is subjective. The key in all of this is to avoid harming anyone. Do you remember how much you were delighted with the stories of my wretched wife.
As for those who want to hear the truth all the time, my heart goes out to them as I couldnt think of anything worse. There are times when self-deception could be a temporary reprieve from the oppresson of reality. 2008 was just a living hell for me ( I shall regale you one day with the sordid details) and I made it through by telling myself all sorts of lies: The truth as it ought to be. And when that dark cloud passed over and there was no more need to lie, I descended to the real world and have been yawning eversince.
You know Shadow, i am always touched by your posts ....u always made me smile ... It's amazing how you manage to express your ideas in a very smart and entertaining way ... you always make the reader (at least me) agree with you even though he thinks differently
As for the red part ..it will be my pleasure ... but was that a white lie ??

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Some people are averse to sadistic tendencies. One must respect and admire that. Let's not always jump to extremes. There are ways to be tactful. Example. This girl at work was transferred to another branch and came to visit today I said to her: "Paulina, how nice to see you, I missed your ugly face". So I gave her half the truth not to hurt her feelings. But she can see through me and she said: I love you too and more than the plague".

If someone's lie is more hurtful than the truth, that simply means the person does not know how to lie period. He should give up lying altogether.
lol You are a Pro Shadow

Yes sometimes people lie just to avoid harming anyone.. your above mentioned cases are a real example, so lying was not so harmful and it happened with a good intention ... but it's not always the case ... Sometimes people need to hear the truth for many reasons ... and it is their right to know it specially if this is their wish so i don't think it is fair lying to them.
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Ok RP it's a disease but it surely had causes No ??? ... what are they ??




Good facheyt khil2ak Orange Infection bas ma nafa3tne bi chi

Why do u lie ???
honestly , i don't lie much
i hate liars , i just lie when it comes to feelings , and if someone asks me if her pic is pretty or if i like her hair etc..... , you know , the usual
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Guys when will you learn... There is no such thing as "lying"... I never lie i just bend the truth...
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