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13th July 2007
Prophecies are given to us by types in our Father’s word, and it’s very important to keep this in mind when reading the Bible, especially for us who now live in the last generations or the generation of the fig tree. In another words, there is nothing new under the sun, what happened back then will happen again today.
“Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.” 1 Corinthians 10:11
Ensamples=tupos Gr. which is types.
In this thread we will examine some prophecies concerning the rise of communism and the conflict that in one form or the other is still on going today between the clashing ideals of the West (led by the U.S. and its allies in Western Europe, Canada etc.), the East (led by Russia and its former satellite states etc.) I’m sure you’re all aware of the stark differences between communism & capitalism, socialist systems & democratic systems, so I won’t list their characteristics here because I assume most people are familiar with this topic.
“And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to enquire of the LORD.
And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.
And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.
And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.
And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.” Genesis 25:22-26
Here we have the first clue; Isaac’s wife Rebekah is pregnant with twins who are already struggling together within her womb; whether symbolically or literally, I think you get the point. The Lord identifies the two children in her womb as “two nations” and “two manner of people”, who shall be separated at birth and one people shall be stronger than the other. Esau the eldest is described as coming out red, which is very significant for two reasons. First, Red=admoniy in Heb. which means reddish (of the hair or the complexion) red, ruddy. Second, red is the color associated with the Soviet Union and communism. I’m sure you’re all familiar with the USSR flag. Also, I would like to point out in Esau’s genealogy there were “dukes” of the sons of Esau specifically mentioned. The word dukes=alluph Heb. also means “chief” or “chieftain”, and the Hebrew word for chief=rosh, roshe which is used in Ezekiel 38. When this is coupled with the migration of the Edomites and the so-called “10 lost tribes of Israel”, it starts to make sense and fits in perfectly. Jacob came out with his hand holding Esau’s heel, thus his name yakob, heel catcher; hence contender. Jacob would contend for Esau’s birthright which traditionally goes to the eldest son. God would later rename Jacob, Israel.
“And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;
And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land.” Genesis 35:10-12
Israel would take Esau’s birthright and receive the blessing of the Lord. Through Isaac’s seed, Israel’s descendants would become a great nation and company of nations with kings. Israel’s descendants would inherit the promised land of Judea and expand their kingdom under the kings, i.e. David, Solomon from Dan to Beersheba until the United Kingdom of Israel is scattered. This is important to remember especially when you consider were the 10 tribes of Israel migrated and that prophecies are given in types.
Picking it back up at verse 29:
“And Jacob sod pottage: and Esau came from the field, and he was faint:
And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage; for I am faint: therefore was his name called Edom.
And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright.
And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me?
And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob.
Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised his birthright.” Genesis 25:29-34
Again, the color red is stressed here from the porridge to the name Edom=red, ruddy in Hebrew. Birthright included the Father’s blessing and supremacy which went to Jacob in Genesis 27. In the last verse the four “ands” mark the deliberateness of Esau’s acts, and their solemn significance. He despised grace and that’s why he is called “a profane person” in Hebrews 12:16, because he rejected God to fill his belly with red mush, which shows how much he valued his heritage and his Father in heaven. You should also note that the Soviet Union and communism despised and rejected grace given by the Father. Communists rejected God, and persecuted His Church; they cared not for their heritage, but brushed it aside and suffered the consequences. Maybe you can now see why the West was blessed and communist nations utterly failed. When Lenin and the Bolsheviks first took over, cannibalism became a way of life in red Russia because of the famine that had cursed the land from its crops, not to mention the famine of God’s word. Ironically, communism was supposed to be the answer for the poor, instead it turned out to be light years worse and more despotic than the monarchy that preceded it. We have two superpowers or magnificent nations; one nation (America) sought God to the point that you can find Him on their coinage, and the other nation (Russia) drove Him out to the point that they turned Churches into storage houses because they cared not for their heritage. God would ensure through the descendants of Jacob that righteousness would ultimately prevail and serve as an equalizer to tyranny.
“That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.” Romans 9:8-15
The children of the flesh are those who care only for the things of the flesh. Esau was a man of this world, a hunter (no sin in being a hunter, but there is a point being made here) who thought in the flesh and cared more about his belly than he cared about his Father in heaven and his heritage. Jacob was a plain man who lived in tents, which is to say upright, pure and civilized. Esau did not wait to be born in the flesh to hate his heritage, God knew while he was still in his mother’s womb the soul that He placed in Esau despised and disregarded his heritage, which is to say disregarded God. It gives you a clue which side Esau sided on during Satan’s rebellion in the first earth age.
Later in Gen. 27, Rebekah would help Jacob claim his birthright from Isaac. A lot of people try to label Rebekah in a negative light and say she used trickery, but this is false especially when you consider these facts: 1) Gen. 25:23, God told Rebekah the elder shall serve the younger. 2) Gen. 25:33-34, Esau sold his birthright to Jacob. Gen. 26:34-35, Esau married out of the lineage much to the dismay of his father and mother. In another words, Rebekah was serving God’s will and plan.
Let’s pick it back up in Gen.27:
“Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine:
Let people serve thee, and nations bow down to thee: be lord over thy brethren, and let thy mother's sons bow down to thee: cursed be every one that curseth thee, and blessed be he that blesseth thee.
And it came to pass, as soon as Isaac had made an end of blessing Jacob, and Jacob was yet scarce gone out from the presence of Isaac his father, that Esau his brother came in from his hunting.
And he also had made savoury meat, and brought it unto his father, and said unto his father, Let my father arise, and eat of his son's venison, that thy soul may bless me.
And Isaac his father said unto him, Who art thou? And he said, I am thy son, thy firstborn Esau.
And Isaac trembled very exceedingly, and said, Who? where is he that hath taken venison, and brought it me, and I have eaten of all before thou camest, and have blessed him? yea, and he shall be blessed.
And when Esau heard the words of his father, he cried with a great and exceeding bitter cry, and said unto his father, Bless me, even me also, O my father.
And he said, Thy brother came with subtilty, and hath taken away thy blessing.
And he said, Is not he rightly named Jacob? for he hath supplanted me these two times: he took away my birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing. And he said, Hast thou not reserved a blessing for me?
And Isaac answered and said unto Esau, Behold, I have made him thy lord, and all his brethren have I given to him for servants; and with corn and wine have I sustained him: and what shall I do now unto thee, my son?
And Esau said unto his father, Hast thou but one blessing, my father? bless me, even me also, O my father. And Esau lifted up his voice, and wept.
And Isaac his father answered and said unto him, Behold, thy dwelling shall be the fatness of the earth, and of the dew of heaven from above;
And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck.
And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob.” Genesis 27:28-41
You can see from the above verses why Esau was called profane, he sold his birthright to Jacob and doesn’t mention this to Isaac, but rather he whines and cries to his earthly father and not once does he think of going to his eternal Father. Basically, he took God out of the equation. God’s blessing to Jacob would be the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine. To Esau, there is a mistranslation from the Hebrew in verse 39; it should be obvious to the reader since it doesn’t fit the context and outcome. “the fatness of the earth, and of”. In Hebrew, the “of” which is omitted in the first clause is the preposition which means “from”. It should be “Far from the fatness of the earth shall be thy dwelling, and far from the dew of the heaven,” Jacob had already received the blessing “of” the fatness of the earth or the land in verse 28 and Esau was to be far from it, in the desert; and so it was; as documented. After the migrations took place, Jacob’s descendants would inherit a rich land were they literally have to put a limit on how much they can produce here in the U.S. and most of Western Europe because of surplus, and the Edomites would inherit Russia were they struggle to grow crops. Under the Soviet Union cannibalism became a way to survive for some people because of food shortages. The Edomites first inherited a desert region and after the migration they would inherit a desolate & barren land in the north. They made things even harder on themselves when they took God out of the equation under communism. I won’t get into the details regarding the migration of the Tribes and the Edomites here, because it requires a thread of it’s own to cover all the ground. I will open a new thread soon to discuss the so-called “10 lost tribes of Israel”. For now, I’ll just point to Jeremiah 31 which is one good source on the tribe of Ephraim. It speaks of, among other things, the establishment of stone monuments or finger posts to indicate their path of movement away from the holy land and the way they are destined to return. The trails of stone-monuments exist. They demonstrate the movement of peoples between Israel and West Europe. They help to identify the said peoples with Israel. A king from the House of David will rule over them. Monarchs from the line of David were recorded in Scythian Sakastan in Ancient Persia. From this region came part of the Anglo-Saxon monarchs and aristocracy as well as those of the later Dutch and Scandinavians including the Normans. Also, Manasseh means "forgetfulness", and I don't think that's just an accident, the people of the United States have certainly forgotten their past. In Gen. 48, Joseph brought his two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh to his father Israel for a blessing. What Israel did was adopt them by putting his name on the sons of Joseph. So from that time on, Ephraim and Manasseh were part of the children of Israel. Also part of the blessing Israel gave to the sons of Joseph is that Manasseh would become a great nation and Ephraim would be a company of nations. Gen. 48 is prophetic even in the time sequence of the rise of these two nations, England then America.
“And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;” Genesis 26:4
Look around you today, who are the most blessed nations? It’s not hard to tell, most of you know the answer to that question. It’s also vital to remember that we are living in the generations of the fig tree, which means we are living in the end times and the prophecies are being fulfilled at a fast pace. I would like to clarify one point regarding Russia. This thread is not directed at Russian Christians who were persecuted for their faith. Russian Christians are God fearing people and they would break ice in the middle of a Russian winter to be baptized in ice cold water. This thread applies to the nation, the system and those who lead it and support it.
I think Malachi sums it all up:
“The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.
I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.
And your eyes shall see, and ye shall say, The LORD will be magnified from the border of Israel.” Malachi 1:1-5 |
