اللذة

[Omeros]

كلمة تشكل " العيب " في المجتمع الا وانه لا يبحث الا عنها ......اعتقد ذلك فكل فرد لا يقوم باي فعل الا من منطلق لذته ..اما الجنسية ( اي البيولوجية ايضا لا اتكلم عن الجنس ففرويد يسمى اللذة الجنسية كل ما يرتبط بالبيولوجيا ) اما اللذة الفكرية وهي تحديدا اللاكتشاف ...
انا ارى انه لا يجب كبت هذا الشعور ربما يخالف الاديان ....لكن ارى انه اساس وجود الانسان .....انه الدافع ..فلا تنسوا الانسان هو حيواني الطابع

[Omeros]

ما هو مفهوم اللذة الجنسية . هل هو نتاج ممارسة الحب او ممارسة الجنس ؟ ...هل المجتمع قابل الاعتراف؟
او انه جد مكبوت لا يقوى حتى على القراءة في هذا الموضوع ؟

[4U2IMI8]

Originally Posted by Omeros

كلمة تشكل " العيب " في المجتمع الا وانه لا يبحث الا عنها ......اعتقد ذلك فكل فرد لا يقوم باي فعل الا من منطلق لذته ..اما الجنسية ( اي البيولوجية ايضا لا اتكلم عن الجنس ففرويد يسمى اللذة الجنسية كل ما يرتبط بالبيولوجيا ) اما اللذة الفكرية وهي تحديدا اللاكتشاف ...
انا ارى انه لا يجب كبت هذا الشعور ربما يخالف الاديان ....لكن ارى انه اساس وجود الانسان .....انه الدافع ..فلا تنسوا الانسان هو حيواني الطابع

Pleasure itself is not what constitute the "3eib", it's the methods used to attain it. Pleasure is not always what we seek, sometimes we seek satisfaction rather than pleasure. Pleasure is probably the ultimate satisfaction.
Biological pleasure seeking is much different than intellectual pleasure. Biological pleasure is to supress, or satisfy an animalistic need for some, for others it is a way to share the need to transfer emotions while satisfying a personal need.
Intellectual pleasure is much broader as it involves many variables. There are no preset conditions to satisfy to attain that type of pleasure. It varies between individuals.

[Omeros]

Pleasure itself is not what constitute the "3eib", it's the methods used to attain it.

can you elaborate your idea ... 2eno what methods your talking about ? how we can say that is a bad method and this is the perfect ?
and if the pleasure itself is not what constitute the ' 3eb ' why making love or sex are a taboo subject ?

Pleasure is not always what we seek, sometimes we seek satisfaction rather than pleasure.

what's the difference?

[Xena]

even when talking about love making, pleasure doesn't neceseraly mean attaining orgasm!!
if its only purpose is physical satisfaction then it can't be pleasurable it would only make people feel more hollow, since real pleasure comes only with the intensity of the whole experience, where feelings are involved!!

that being said, pleasure should not only be associated with love making.... it can be anything! eating belgian praline while watching a great movie with your man next to you, and your cat on your lap is very pleasurable

[Omeros]

Originally Posted by Xena

even when talking about love making, pleasure doesn't neceseraly mean attaining orgasm!!
if its only purpose is physical satisfaction then it can't be pleasurable it would only make people feel more hollow, since real pleasure comes only with the intensity of the whole experience, where feelings are involved!!

that being said, pleasure should not only be associated with love making.... it can be anything! eating belgian praline while watching a great movie with your man next to you, and your cat on your lap is very pleasurable

gr8 answer :D
i guess our society or arabic society relate pleasure with sex and its not true :)
for me the pleasure is when i finish a book ... while im dancing ... when i have a nice conversation .. and during a fight ... :D:D:D:D

which activities have a special feeling ... have a different conception of pleasure .. for example : finishing a book = the feeling mean i have a new info in my mind and ive learned a new strategies
dancing = pleasure cz i did a gr8' defoulment'
nice conv = pleasure cz my brain was working while he work
fight ; dnt know how i feel bas it is a pleasure