Zahle Elections 09 : Updates & Discussion

[NAFAR]

Originally Posted by Saladin

Ah walla, so Hariri shouldve put on his list Ali Eid in order not to marginalize the Alawites? Fashar 3a ra2ebto. And regarding the armenians, there was a battle and they lost, as simple as that. Hariri offered them 4MPs yet the wise guys refused.

Are you tring to look smart?
Hariri lust for power is increasing the secterian strife in Lebanon.
Zahly is boiling and the fooled christians good citizens that voted for hariri list under the slogan of " Hizbullah weopons, wylaiat fakih..blablabla" are shocked seeing hariri flirting with Hizb and flying to KSA to take the orders for the coming stage.

[MPFL]

Originally Posted by IA64

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1. When did this transfer in Beirut happened? Hossa Era
2. Who were the transferred guys? Shiites
3. To which places they were transferred? Beirut 2 & 3
4. What is their estimated numbers? 48K
5. When was the last time an MP of Beirut spoke about that? You should blame the MPs present at that time

6. Was it legally done?

The Law says any person living in an area for 3 yrs can move his registration to it.

Those transferred people lives in those area (Beirut 2 & 3)?
Was their transfer legal?

7. You think it was done for electoral purposes?

Side Note: There should be law preventing Lebanese people from moving their registration.

As if it not enough that when a Christian person looks to buy a house he looks in Baabda - Maten - Kesserwein...

A sunni looks in Hamra - Mazra3a....

A Shiite looks in Da7yeh....

We are already living a divided Lebanon & it'll only get worse by moving registrations and our villages will become 1 color!

There is no reason why someone would move his registration...

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by SamerTayyar

zahle for catholics, Keserwen for maronites, Nabatiyeh for shi3a, Beirut for sunna

Mazeri3 7ayawenet...

samer u have no deep idea of what zahle is about

if u think i'm a secterian ***** from zahle, then just wait til u hear a true secterian ***** from zahle and prepare a prozac pill in hand.

the idea is not being nice and politically correct, the idea is that what happened in zahle with the transfer of 10k votes will make ppl there more maniacs.

no one said that zahle is '100%' for catholics, but who the heck said that anyone can transfer 10k+ sunni votes there and not expect a secterian reaction ?

that's the story nothing else

and dont tell me about fpm not deserving zahle, cuz no one here deserves anything from all camps.

zahle was lost becuz

1-skaff was a stupid weak leader

2-harriri was a pimp who transfered 10k new votes in

and the end result is regarldess of which stupid color won, zahle for the first time lost its ability to affect its own political future.

wala a2al walla aktar

ppl can go play political correct movies somewhere else when 20k muslism get transfered to kesserwan or some other christian dump and vice versa for muslims.

for me i want a secular proportional voting law

but heck ya i am pissed at seeing zahle getting stuck inside a ****storm of secterian strife that none other than harriri himself started

so excuse me if i dont have all the time in the world to play the sexless angel now

i'm an aounist with a bad attitude and i like it hehe

it's no my job to play PR games but to protest suicidal moves in front of me

[IA64]

Originally Posted by MPFL

1. When did this transfer in Beirut happened? Hossa Era
2. Who were the transferred guys? Shiites
3. To which places they were transferred? Beirut 2 & 3
4. What is their estimated numbers? 48K
5. When was the last time an MP of Beirut spoke about that? You should blame the MPs present at that time

6. Was it legally done?

The Law says any person living in an area for 3 yrs can move his registration to it.

Those transferred people lives in those area (Beirut 2 & 3)?
Was their transfer legal?

7. You think it was done for electoral purposes?

Side Note: There should be law preventing Lebanese people from moving their registration.

As if it not enough that when a Christian person looks to buy a house he looks in Baabda - Maten - Kesserwein...

A sunni looks in Hamra - Mazra3a....

A Shiite looks in Da7yeh....

We are already living a divided Lebanon & it'll only get worse by moving registrations and our villages will become 1 color!

There is no reason why someone would move his registration...

Baroud said that the transfer happened in 2005 after the elections and did not mention anything about whether it was legal or not.


Who cares as long as it happened? Are you saying that if 50,000 noufous are to be transfer to Zahle not for the sake of electoral purposes, than it is fine ?!

Fine then I vote for it.

[MPFL]

Originally Posted by IA64

Baroud said that the transfer happened in 2005 after the elections and did not mention anything about whether it was legal or not.


Who cares as long as it happened? Are you saying that if 50,000 noufous are to be transfer to Zahle not for the sake of electoral purposes, than it is fine ?!

Fine then I vote for it.

My friend:
1. I am against Transferring registration for whatever the reason is
I urge all our MPs to propose such a law

2. If a transfer happened without breaking the current law than No one has the right to complain about it (I am with the law & am not saying whether the reason is electoral or not)

i.e. If the transfer of 10K sunni votes in Za7leh was done following the rules/Law than no one has the right to complain

3. You & Saladin mentioned Beirut transfer case and compare it to Zahleh.
I am just trying to know if Beirut Transfer is similar to Zahleh one

If Beirut Transfer is illegal than I'm against it...
If it is legal than I vote for it..

But keep in mind that the CURRENT law allows this
I hope The law changes and restrict anyone from transferring his registration

In my family there is talk about transferring their registration from Jezzine to Maten - I'm against that!

[SamerTayyar]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

samer u have no deep idea of what zahle is about

if u think i'm a secterian ***** from zahle, then just wait til u hear a true secterian ***** from zahle and prepare a prozac pill in hand.

the idea is not being nice and politically correct, the idea is that what happened in zahle with the transfer of 10k votes will make ppl there more maniacs.

no one said that zahle is '100%' for catholics, but who the heck said that anyone can transfer 10k+ sunni votes there and not expect a secterian reaction ?

that's the story nothing else

and dont tell me about fpm not deserving zahle, cuz no one here deserves anything from all camps.

zahle was lost becuz

1-skaff was a stupid weak leader

2-harriri was a pimp who transfered 10k new votes in

and the end result is regarldess of which stupid color won, zahle for the first time lost its ability to affect its own political future.

wala a2al walla aktar

ppl can go play political correct movies somewhere else when 20k muslism get transfered to kesserwan or some other christian dump and vice versa for muslims.

for me i want a secular proportional voting law

but heck ya i am pissed at seeing zahle getting stuck inside a ****storm of secterian strife that none other than harriri himself started

so excuse me if i dont have all the time in the world to play the sexless angel now

i'm an aounist with a bad attitude and i like it hehe

it's no my job to play PR games but to protest suicidal moves in front of me

we all know hariris games, Im not saying transferring this amount of voters
in a small period of time is right, but FPM and partisans are complaining
about it AFTER the elections and ignored this issue for the past 3 years
and were busy pressuring for an additional 1 billion liras for Berris fat
southern council budget. again where was FPM and the opposition to
support this issue that Skef raised 3 years ago? hypocrtical no?

[roch10452]

Originally Posted by IA64

Baroud said that the transfer happened in 2005 after the elections and did not mention anything about whether it was legal or not.


Who cares as long as it happened? Are you saying that if 50,000 noufous are to be transfer to Zahle not for the sake of electoral purposes, than it is fine ?!

Fine then I vote for it.

What if the election law allows each sect to vote for its own representation?
then neither register transfer nor sectarian talk would affect it

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by SamerTayyar

we all know hariris games, Im not saying transferring this amount of voters
in a small period of time is right, but FPM and partisans are complaining
about it AFTER the elections and ignored this issue for the past 3 years
and were busy pressuring for an additional 1 billion liras for Berris fat
southern council budget. again where was FPM and the opposition to
support this issue that Skef raised 3 years ago? hypocrtical no?

if i had a coin for each time fpm was in a coma i would be a harriri family member now.

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

if i had a coin for each time fpm was in a coma i would be a harriri family member now.

that is just unfair and far from the truth.
FPM did great work all ove rthe country and held its ground.

now if we could not stop the sunni transfer, why should be blamed???

ye3ni people wants us to be polite/decent and not to stirr problems, than they turn and blame us when we fail to stop sa3doun atrocities.

to stop him we either.

1-start a war
2-win the elections..

people should understand that they can not have their cake and eat it.
GENERAL said it, let the people decide: well they have decided to let sa3doun clan rule. ENJOY.

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

that is just unfair and far from the truth.
FPM did great work all ove rthe country and held its ground.

now if we could not stop the sunni transfer, why should be blamed???

ye3ni people wants us to be polite/decent and not to stirr problems, than they turn and blame us when we fail to stop sa3doun atrocities.

to stop him we either.

1-start a war
2-win the elections..

people should understand that they can not have their cake and eat it.
GENERAL said it, let the people decide: well they have decided to let sa3doun clan rule. ENJOY.

ya khaye hanna, mish ra7 za3lak

fpm did a marvelous job hehe

mni7 hek ?