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Guys whoever thinks that the result of 2009 will be exactly as the 2005 ones is delusional. Too much happened, events, war, propaganda, killings, street fights..... Whoever thinks that our voting base is as is is wrong. We definitely lost many people, how much I can't say, but probably between 5 and 15%. Now what is also something to consider is that many people who could not vote last time because they were under age will vote this time, and many of those will vote for FPM.
I do not expect a 70% next elections, but I really do not care. In the Metn by-elections, we won over 400 votes, I do not care what they said, bottom line is, Khoury is an MP and Amin a3id bi beito. So in 2009, I want to win, by how much I do not care.
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Do not forget that a 10% swing against any party in lebanon could be disasterous. In 2009 there were 400 votes different between both men if this is the case against with another 2% swing against FPM the list will be wiped out!!!
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I did not vote in 2005 because I knew that FPM was going to win. I live abroad. My parents were against GMA. My sister was for GMA , my other sister was against GMA. This time my sister is against GMA, my other sister is for GMA and my parents are with GMA. We gained 3. Yet with this said I have to agree with Youchka . We have lost a pecentage and how much we don't know. I mean even in the US , Bus hwas at an approval rate of 86 percent to day at less than 24 percent . So we cannot expect to get 70 percent especially if Sleiman the President has a list which according to my sources he is preparing one in the Christian areas. With this said , FPMers will be remain FPMers but what I'm not noticing is some very interesting propaganda slogans ie " I used to be with GMA but I'm no longer" . The same person was not . You have to truly ask about the person and check. I will give an example. I was talking to a guy today and he was telling hom much he was with GMA and he is from Metn and how he told his dad to vote for Maalouf. Wait if you are FPM in 2005 you vote the whole list. Obviously back then he voted the whole list of the Febrauary 14th and put Maalouf and is trying to convince me that he is Aounist. Watch out for people like this . Ask them bluntly who the yvoted for if they are older than 24. If they dont know then they are lying. Prepare yourself for Slaiman.
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2 more votes, me since i will turn 21 in april and my brother :D. If there anything my family (both sides) agree on, that would be the general elections.
We gave FPM about 140 votes in 2005 and this time i expect about 160.
However i got that uncle who is a Kataeb responsible, he will vote Kataeb of course and FPM (w houwe mabsout) but no single way LF (that's what he did in 2005). He hates them to the bones.

As for friends, i got like 10 friends who turned 21 and will vote for FPM and 1 LF who will be 1 month away from 21 lol.
As for work mates, all FPMers, 50% activists, that's because where i work is a pro FPM media.

My GF is an FPM activist(met her on this forum) and her family has Military roots, they will all vote for FPM favor except her since she will be 20 by the elections.
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2 more votes, me and my brother :D. If there anything my family (both sides) agree on, that would be the general elections.
We gave FPM about 140 votes in 2005 and this time i expect about 160.
However i got that uncle who is a Kataeb responsible, he will vote Kataeb of course and FPM (w houwe mabsout) but no single way LF (that's what he did in 2005). He hates them to the bones.
A lot of Kataeb will not vote for LF (but that doesn't necessarily mean they will vote for FPM!)
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A lot of Kataeb will not vote for LF (but that doesn't necessarily mean they will vote for FPM!)
My uncle will for sure, for many reasons...
However, my aunt will vote FPM in keserwan and her husband will vote both FPM and Kataeb as well, that's what he did in 2005 and will do it again in 2009, he thinks that GMA mistake was by not killing geagea when he had the chance to.
Please don't forget that the LF did very horrible things to people who were pro kataeb or pro Army in late 80s early 90s A fake apology won't make the job.
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i have 2 uncles who are pro march 14
one of them is in the ISF so he cant vote i guess
the other is an official LFer , in the last elections he was mandoub with LF and my father was mandoub with FPM , and above that they look like each other
beside those 2 , all the family is FPMer
a long long generation of 3askar in my family , that's generally the situation of all christians in akkar ........
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i am not here to dispute your figures
but that will be first in the history of lebanon that 50 people all changed their minds is politics.regardless of whom they support, it is just unheard of
tell me half, one third i will say ok, but all that is just unbeleivable.
i am not talking about FPM but about any party.
people in lebanon do not easily changes their political minds, and none really is neutral as some polls like to claim.just maybe a bit shy or like privacy or to avoid arguments.
especially FPM, honestly i have not met someone who used to like GMA that he hates him now, maybe a small 3atab but to dislke him, i have never met anyone ( not politicians like mahfoud, zeghbi) i am speaking of your average person.
Hanna!!! you always have the talent to change the wording...

If you read well my post, i have said the MAJORITY of the family will change their vote, and I will personally encourage the rest to do so. No one is saying that we hate GMA today, not at all!!!! we simply do not agree with his politics anymore. there is no hate.
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Now we're doing the co-workers?!
Well the company im working in include about 400 employee, in the floor where im working there's 45 employee. 12 will vote FPM 33 will vote M14.
from the 45 there is 43 Christians!
Now let me be objectif and scientific, i will say enno most of us know each others, so kel mwazzaf jeb el tene etc..bass those are the accurate numbers!
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dudes the Argument of gaining a few more votes because some people turned 21 is irrelevant since it is applicable for all the parties concerned. I know lots of LFers who were underage and who can now vote.

The elections in 2009 will be very hard. we should be working as hell.
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Now we're doing the co-workers?!
Well the company im working in include about 400 employee, in the floor where im working there's 45 employee. 12 will vote FPM 33 will vote M14.
from the 45 there is 43 Christians!
Now let me be objectif and scientific, i will say enno most of us know each others, so kel mwazzaf jeb el tene etc..bass those are the accurate numbers!
no neutrals at your work ????
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