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Originally Posted by spacecreature  WITH THIS MENTALITY U WILL REACH NO WHERE!!!
I AM ON YOUR SIDE!!!! I WAS MERELY TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU THE SITUATION IN LEBANON, YOU CAN IGNORE IT ALL YOU WANT BUT IT WON'T CHANGE A THING.
I understand your frustrations and maybe that's why you don't want to hear anything that is not your way.
Bedik tekleh 3ennab wala teetleh el natour??? You have to find constructive ways to reach your goals, this means trying to lobby with as much people as possible. For that you have to be willing to listen to others and their concerns no matter how greater and more founded your frustrations are.
As for the secrets on politicians why wait, say them all now.
Sorry if I had offended you, that was not the purpose of my post. |
Listen I know you are on MY SIDE. But you are arguing after aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll I wrote still in the same manner. Did you read what I wrote?
I explained that:
- This is a natural right which Lebanese mothers are asking for, and I assure you I am thousand times more Lebanese and attached to my country than millions of men holding the Lebanese citizenship.
- Applying this law would enrich Lebanon in so many various fields, new family names, new ethnicities, cultures and languages in a country which calls itself centre of civilization.
- Per lex, this violates the Lebanese Constitution and Lebanon's membership in the UN (See my reply page 3), hence there is a CONSTITUTIONAL BREACH. "Everyone is born equal"
- Psychologically, those children are suffering and their mothers too. They are not secured in any aspect, although those children do not differ from children born to a foreign mother and Lebanese father. So either the latter should be treated as non-Lebanese or both as Lebanese. In this case the children of ELIAS HRAWI are half Lebanese half Palestinians I ask to withdraw their citizenship. People must stop this nonsense, really.
- If you want to politicize it (not you personally, but any reader ) then I will too and I will tell tou I will make an army, buy Katyousha, and defend myself against this unjustice just like anyone defending himself from Israel or Syria.
- The palestinians already have a laisser passer. Children of Palestinian fathers and Lebanese mothers can already acquire the citizenship if the parents are smart and the child is registered under the second law in Children Right's convention of 1991. In the worse case under the first section of the same article (read page 3)
- This issue is not about Palestinians but about Lebanese and those who "fear" the Palestinian issue are those who brought the Palestinians, Syrians, Israeli, US, Somlia and all the mercenaries, so those do not have the right of protest because I am not the one to be held responsible for the mistakes they do.
- The same people who signed the Taef signed the CEDAW depriving children from a Lebanese Mother this right. The Taef was made under Saudi/Syrian pressure, the CEDAW was made under same pressure because both countries do not respect neither children nor women, is Lebanon to follow their example or should Lebanon be a leader in the Middle East in issues regarding Human Rights?
- Those objecting are majorly the Christian parties. But aren't those same hypocrites calling for a civil nation? Aren't those Christians "afraid" of muslim but they treat women worse than in Muslim countries? (Morocco, Egypt and Tunesia acknowledged in 2004, 2006 and 2008) the right for children from a Moroccan/Tunesian/Egyptian woman to give her children the citizenship.
- Why was Walid Bin Talal able to take this citizenship while his father is Saudi and my children can't?
- The Muslim and especially Sunni are since over 80 years the majority and christians cannot fight this demographic change by punishing me and my children! If they are afraid of Muslim then they are the first to apply a civil country with distribution upon qualification, based on nationhood, then there wouldn't be a problem.
I really could go on, but if I did not convince you, I never can. :)
19th May 2009
. This issue is cristal clear, genes mingle and so should children get both mother and father's citizenship, no questions asked. FPM and other decent souls should push for and adopt an amendment of the existing law, wbala ta22 7anak. 
the pleasure of belonging to us? If we allow 50.000 Palestinian mothers to be married to Lebanese yielding 400.000 new Lebanese, why should we discriminate the offspring of 50.000 Lebanese mothers married to Palestinians? or Americans, French or Somali? Are we punishing the mothers here, or are we actually protecting the children?
